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Ruzious wrote:

dckingsfan wrote:

dobrojim wrote:^ in other words, and if this holds, tRump is going to have his @ss handed to him assuming he permits the election to even happen.

It seems clear at the moment that tRump is incapable of realizing what worked in 16 against HRC (see the Adam Serwer piece DCK(?) linked) is not working. And the madder/more frustrated he gets, the stupider he becomes.

And the stupider he becomes, the more he tweets and talks and the less question of how incredibly stupid this unfettered idiot actually is.

I have flipped to the zonk mode. Every sitting R senator has to go before I will consider voting for any R at the local or state level regardless of how much more qualified they are... The Rs no longer have any kind of governing principal - and Trump puts that on display daily with the complicit silence of the rest of the complicit R party.

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Zonkerbl wrote:I think Hillary's mistake was she had the integrity to ran as who she was - a perfectionist. That's fine but all the jocks in the world resent the hell out of that. That's not nearly as attractive as Joe's true self - a kindly, squishy grandpa who genuinely loves everybody, and you know it's true because he's been through horrible tragedy and is the same Mr. Rogers clone that he was before. How can you not like the guy. Even if he is a bit of a mess sometimes. *Because* he's a bit of a mess sometimes. You know he means well and that's what counts. That's all we want - someone who's *trying* to do good. Instead of malignantly and deliberately being evil.

Still my last choice in terms of executing the exhausting policy reform program that has to happen, probably in just two years, but I understand why he's kicking Trump's a$$ right now. He's the President we *want.* Hopefully he'll put together a cabinet of leaders we need.

doclinkin wrote:

Zonkerbl wrote:I think Hillary's mistake was she had the integrity to ran as who she was - a perfectionist. That's fine but all the jocks in the world resent the hell out of that. That's not nearly as attractive as Joe's true self - a kindly, squishy grandpa who genuinely loves everybody, and you know it's true because he's been through horrible tragedy and is the same Mr. Rogers clone that he was before. How can you not like the guy. Even if he is a bit of a mess sometimes. *Because* he's a bit of a mess sometimes. You know he means well and that's what counts. That's all we want - someone who's *trying* to do good. Instead of malignantly and deliberately being evil.

Still my last choice in terms of executing the exhausting policy reform program that has to happen, probably in just two years, but I understand why he's kicking Trump's a$$ right now. He's the President we *want.* Hopefully he'll put together a cabinet of leaders we need.

Slight disagreement. I think Hillary was stung by the nasty turn of politics in the Newt Gingrich "Contract on America" era (sic), and ever since was overly protective of her personal opinions and private self. Frankly the Hillary that was leaked in her emails would have been a better candidate: tough, sarcastic, focused on the right details, with a pointed sense of humor and smart priorities. Instead she kept a tight sphincter control of her image and instead came off as sour, persnickety, and business-as-usual in an era where Business has been one of the dangers. She lost momentum to Bernie who was a clear choice for change, and Trump who was a force for change but not in a good way.

As for Biden. He's a wishy washy Democratic answer to Ronald Reagan and Shrub Bush: a good natured fella you can invite to any picnic. Politically he's a windsock. Whoever blows the most wind will find him turning in their direction. Right now progressive ideas are blowing that mighty wind so he turns that way for influence on policy.

I do think his running mate is critical. They are the back up point guard behind a veteran who has a lot of miles on court...

doclinkin wrote:Slight disagreement. I think Hillary was stung by the nasty turn of politics in the Newt Gingrich "Contract on America" era (sic), and ever since was overly protective of her personal opinions and private self. Frankly the Hillary that was leaked in her emails would have been a better candidate: tough, sarcastic, focused on the right details, with a pointed sense of humor and smart priorities. Instead she kept a tight sphincter control of her image and instead came off as sour, persnickety, and business-as-usual in an era where Business has been one of the dangers. She lost momentum to Bernie who was a clear choice for change, and Trump who was a force for change but not in a good way.

As for Biden. He's a wishy washy Democratic answer to Ronald Reagan and Shrub Bush: a good natured fella you can invite to any picnic. Politically he's a windsock. Whoever blows the most wind will find him turning in their direction. Right now progressive ideas are blowing that mighty wind so he turns that way for influence on policy.

I do think his running mate is critical. They are the back up point guard behind a veteran who has a lot of miles on court...

montestewart wrote:

dobrojim wrote:^ in other words, and if this holds, tRump is going to have his @ss handed to him
assuming he permits the election to even happen.

It seems clear at the moment that tRump is incapable of realizing what
worked in 16 against HRC (see the Adam Serwer piece DCK(?) linked)
is not working. And the madder/more frustrated he gets, the stupider
he becomes.

People were free in 2016 to speculate on what Trump as president might be. A lot of people were in for a surprise. Even a lot of Republicans who would never vote for a Democrat seem pretty astonished at the relentless ineptitude, unintelligibility, vulgar callousness, flagrant disregard for ethical standards, and narcissism. And the authoritarianism. My stepfather is a lifelong Republican who probably voted for Trump but surely will not this time around, and I heard him recently call Trump a fascist. My father, a moderate-Democrat-who-occasionally-votes Republican (Reagan 1980, at least) and has never been outspoken politically is recently quite critical of everything, everything that Trump does. The others that voted for Trump seem pretty silent, and my aunt seems a little embrarrassed that her boyfriend supports Trump.

Trump's approach seems to challenge supporters to be 100% all in, without criticism, or stand on the outside with the other losers. Perhaps a few of those on the fence have chosen to break away from dangerous fantasy toward the grey area of sanity.

However, with all the voter fraud tricks that the GOP, Republican Senate, and White House routinely signal they are prepared to employ, there is no reason to be confident of defeating Trump. The Trump party wears its comically veiled intent on its Iron Sleeve, seemingly as a promise to supporters to counter polls and bad press.

They intend to try to steal a righteous victory. If they do, Trump will appropriately brag, "Like George Washington said, [APPLAUSE] I cannot tell a lie. [APPLAUSE] I'm the Comeback King. [APPLAUSE] This country [APPLAUSE] is my home. [APPLAUSE] I stole home [APPLAUSE] and won the Super Bowl [APPLAUSE] for America. [APPLAUSE] Did I mention I?" [APPLAUSE]

doclinkin wrote:I think Hillary was stung by the nasty turn of politics in the Newt Gingrich "Contract on America" era (sic), and ever since was overly protective of her personal opinions and private self.

WIZKID wrote:As a Maryland transplant safe & secure in Bend Oregon.
I am watching way too much tv!
I cant help but notice how much more attractive the CNN Female anchors are than the fox female anchors.

Its startling.

Same goes for brains.

All trump fans look 1 generation from imbreding,
or less.

Zonkerbl wrote:Here's what I find when I google image "zonk mode":



Apparently I am a kpop social media subversive

payitforward wrote:Another way to make sure to wipe out a lot of people:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/white-house-ordered-nih-to-cancel-coronavirus-research-funding-fauci-says/

I_Like_Dirt wrote:

doclinkin wrote:Slight disagreement. I think Hillary was stung by the nasty turn of politics in the Newt Gingrich "Contract on America" era (sic), and ever since was overly protective of her personal opinions and private self. Frankly the Hillary that was leaked in her emails would have been a better candidate: tough, sarcastic, focused on the right details, with a pointed sense of humor and smart priorities. Instead she kept a tight sphincter control of her image and instead came off as sour, persnickety, and business-as-usual in an era where Business has been one of the dangers. She lost momentum to Bernie who was a clear choice for change, and Trump who was a force for change but not in a good way.

As for Biden. He's a wishy washy Democratic answer to Ronald Reagan and Shrub Bush: a good natured fella you can invite to any picnic. Politically he's a windsock. Whoever blows the most wind will find him turning in their direction. Right now progressive ideas are blowing that mighty wind so he turns that way for influence on policy.

I do think his running mate is critical. They are the back up point guard behind a veteran who has a lot of miles on court...

I think there was a significant dose of sexism there. She suffered the same fate against Obama in the primaries, too, only Obama was dramatically better at winning elections than Bernie was. When put under the microscope, I do think women face some obstacles that men simply don't. I don't love everything about Hillary or agree with everything she proposes but she's always been tough, super competent and doesn't suffer fools. That doesn't play well for women electorally when it comes to building a broad base. Biden, on the flipside is basically Trump but with his heart in the right place for the most part so nothing sticks to him for the same reasons. Hillary wasn't nearly so bullet proof. Obama wasn't, either, but just took everything and drowned it out with African American voter turnout everywhere. We know Obama took those hits, though, because those issues came out in Hillary's campaign, too.

dckingsfan wrote:

dobrojim wrote:^ in other words, and if this holds, tRump is going to have his @ss handed to him assuming he permits the election to even happen.

It seems clear at the moment that tRump is incapable of realizing what worked in 16 against HRC (see the Adam Serwer piece DCK(?) linked) is not working. And the madder/more frustrated he gets, the stupider he becomes.

And the stupider he becomes, the more he tweets and talks and the less question of how incredibly stupid this unfettered idiot actually is.

I have flipped to the zonk mode. Every sitting R senator has to go before I will consider voting for any R at the local or state level regardless of how much more qualified they are... The Rs no longer have any kind of governing principal - and Trump puts that on display daily with the complicit silence of the rest of the complicit R party.