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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 3:02 pm
by dckingsfan
TGW wrote:I'm still not buying Biden being up by some insurmountable lead. Biden being a weak candidate and hiding from the public makes him just as beatable as the person Trump beat in 2016.

Yup, why would any card carrying Trump supporter believe anything but what this POTUS is saying... it all has to be fake news.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 3:02 pm
by Ruzious
TGW wrote:I'm still not buying Biden being up by some insurmountable lead. Biden being a weak candidate and hiding from the public makes him just as beatable as the person Trump beat in 2016.

Then support him.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 3:14 pm
by Wizardspride
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:19 pm
by FAH1223
TGW wrote:I'm still not buying Biden being up by some insurmountable lead. Biden being a weak candidate and hiding from the public makes him just as beatable as the person Trump beat in 2016.


All the evidence supports Biden having a big lead. Live caller polls post-convention are coming out and Trump doesn't have a bump. In 2016, the race tightened to Clinton up 3% in early September in the averages and it was tied after her fainting episode in NYC on 9/11 anniversary.

Biden is up on average 8 points nationally in all these polls. His swing state numbers are solid and pollsters are weighing them by education and sampling accordingly.

New Q poll
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Biden is winning black voters, 83% to 11%

Latinos by 56% to 36% (red flag!, Trump won 28% in 2016)

Trump is winning white voters by 50% to 46%. He's got white men at 57% to 38%. Biden is winning white women at 52% to 44%.

Trump is winning non-college educated whites by 61% to 35%. Biden only being down 26% is huge. Hillary lost this demo by over 37% in 2016.

Biden is winning college educated whites 63% to 32%. Another huge swing to Biden. More than Clinton's 51 percent to 42 percent lead among that group in 2016 according to the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, a nationally representative sample of 64,600 adults.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:25 pm
by dobrojim
First thanks Ruz for calling my daughter a hero. I can't be objective being her
father but needless to say, I'm damn proud. FWIW, she really dislikes Biden
but is not foolish enough to think for a moment that she shouldn't vote for him.
She's a 24 yo gay woman with a trans sibling, so she ain't voting for tRUmp,
nor is her brother.

Re these polls, the one thing many poll watchers or analysts look for is
being over 50%. I don't know if they focus too much on that and while
BIden is close to that number, I would feel slightly better if he were.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:34 pm
by dobrojim
Ruzious wrote:
TGW wrote:I'm still not buying Biden being up by some insurmountable lead. Biden being a weak candidate and hiding from the public makes him just as beatable as the person Trump beat in 2016.

Then support him.


Actually in spite of the fact I had another preference, in some ways he might
be perfect given his apparent teflon. He almost certainly was/is the best dem
in terms of his chances of beating tRump as evidenced by the Ukraine impeachment
(suggests that tRump thought so).

As for what happens after the election assuming he wins of course, I think he can be
dragged as far left as there is political support for him to go there. Which is effectively
the same thing that could be said about any potential dem POTUS.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:57 pm
by dobrojim
FInally, the top letter in the WaPo print addition today was from a reader who
called on the NBA players to work at polling stations.
Think of all the closely contested states that also have NBA franchises,
in the case of Texas, three of them. AZ, MN, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO, FL.

Hopefully the players will heed the call. They could make a difference.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/boycotting-games-sure-gets-attention-but-theres-something-better-nba-players-can-do/2020/09/01/fc431896-e936-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:02 pm
by dckingsfan
dobrojim wrote:FInally, the top letter in the WaPo print addition today was from a reader who called on the NBA players to work at polling stations. Think of all the closely contested states that also have NBA franchises, in the case of Texas, three of them. AZ, MN, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO, FL.

Hopefully the players will heed the call. They could make a difference.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/boycotting-games-sure-gets-attention-but-theres-something-better-nba-players-can-do/2020/09/01/fc431896-e936-11ea-bf44-0d31c85838a5_story.html

This... I have had tweets sent to Chris Paul. I figured he was the best person.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 9:17 pm
by Pointgod
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 10:19 pm
by FAH1223
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We could have given every American family $10,000

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Wed Sep 2, 2020 10:29 pm
by Wizardspride
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:42 am
by dobrojim
Then MPD kills a young black man in Barr’s figurative backyard.
He has got to go.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:57 am
by FAH1223
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXVIII

Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:55 am
by montestewart
Continued here.