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Post#201 » by montestewart » Sat Jun 6, 2020 10:15 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:I don't understand why John wouldn't come back but I guess he's being careful. He might be out of shape too


I would suggest he probably does want to come back very much. Sometimes caution is warranted and emotional decisions need to be overridden is all.

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Post#202 » by dlts20 » Sun Jun 7, 2020 12:04 am

likwitdesi wrote:Isn't Walll sitting out so that Ted can pick up the insurance policy on his contract?

I think that we passed that mark a long time ago
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Post#203 » by Ruzious » Sun Jun 7, 2020 10:43 am

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Ruzious wrote:My head says - don't lose any ping pong balls; my heart says - win every game possible.

My heart's a fool. :)

I'd pay to just watch the team practice now.


We can jump up to 1-4 in the lotto. Who in that top 4 is worth losing to get?
And otherwise who from 9-14 is a player significantly better than players 15 & lower.

This year I don’t see a cluster of standouts who are likely available by 9-10 but who will surely gone by 15.

My guess is that at 9, we have a reasonable shot at either Haliburton or Hayes. Not that either is a perfect fit for the Wiz, but I think their talent levels are significantly higher than the players after them. Then again, I'm starting to like Poku - the 7 foot Serbian.
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Post#204 » by payitforward » Sun Jun 7, 2020 5:16 pm

What I would say about Haliburton is that his chances of being a terrific player in the NBA are quite high.
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Post#205 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 8, 2020 9:24 am

I'm still very high on stick Smith. To be honest with you. I think rui is gonna settle in as a bigger 3 once him shot starts falling and having a big springy 4-5 to play with rui and Bryant would be nice.
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Ruzious wrote:My head says - don't lose any ping pong balls; my heart says - win every game possible.

My heart's a fool. :)

I'd pay to just watch the team practice now.


We can jump up to 1-4 in the lotto. Who in that top 4 is worth losing to get?
And otherwise who from 9-14 is a player significantly better than players 15 & lower.

This year I don’t see a cluster of standouts who are likely available by 9-10 but who will surely gone by 15.

My guess is that at 9, we have a reasonable shot at either Haliburton or Hayes. Not that either is a perfect fit for the Wiz, but I think their talent levels are significantly higher than the players after them. Then again, I'm starting to like Poku - the 7 foot Serbian.


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Post#206 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:57 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Getting back to the possibility of the NBA playing again...



https://www.si.com/nba/2020/04/02/nba-exploring-las-vegas-for-playoffs-coronavirus

Making sure all the players/coaches test negative, sequestering them in a single hotel, and playing televised games with no fans could work. But not sure why they're considering a 5 game series for the first/last rounds but with a sudden death tournament in-between. Seems like they'd do the one-and-done games first.

My current thought is to make every round best 2 out of 3. Since millions are stuck at home, they could play daytime quadruple headers every day - meaning each round takes a max of one week. Whole thing would be done in a month and for some stretches there would be elimination games almost daily. If they wanted to expand the Finals to 5 games it would basically add a 5th week.

I'd also add a play-in game for 8th/9th seeds in each conference. Not just cuz I want to see the Wizards play lol, but 1) gives fans elimination games right off the bat to generate excitement and 2) gives the league a sort of dry run to make sure their setup works.


And there's still the question of - should they allow people in the stands during the games? It's going to seem weird to go from not allowing anyone to enter the stadium to allowing packed houses. Maybe there could be some kind of compromise - like selling only every other seat?


Best 2 of 3 makes sense, but with no attendance, can't have people flying in from all over the country bringing who knows what at this point, it's too soon....even in June.


So the final answer is Orlando with no audience and the Wizards are one of the teams in the hunt. Right?

It is possible that the wizards could win the championship this season! :-)
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Post#207 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:59 pm

gambitx777 wrote:I'm still very high on stick Smith. To be honest with you. I think rui is gonna settle in as a bigger 3 once him shot starts falling and having a big springy 4-5 to play with rui and Bryant would be nice.
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We can jump up to 1-4 in the lotto. Who in that top 4 is worth losing to get?
And otherwise who from 9-14 is a player significantly better than players 15 & lower.

This year I don’t see a cluster of standouts who are likely available by 9-10 but who will surely gone by 15.

My guess is that at 9, we have a reasonable shot at either Haliburton or Hayes. Not that either is a perfect fit for the Wiz, but I think their talent levels are significantly higher than the players after them. Then again, I'm starting to like Poku - the 7 foot Serbian.


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Sticks is a sure fire good NBA player.

I am certain that his current projection is way too low. There are better players that the Wizards could draft; however, he’s the one I want them to draft in the right scenario.
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Post#208 » by Ruzious » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:14 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:I'm still very high on stick Smith. To be honest with you. I think rui is gonna settle in as a bigger 3 once him shot starts falling and having a big springy 4-5 to play with rui and Bryant would be nice.
Ruzious wrote:My guess is that at 9, we have a reasonable shot at either Haliburton or Hayes. Not that either is a perfect fit for the Wiz, but I think their talent levels are significantly higher than the players after them. Then again, I'm starting to like Poku - the 7 foot Serbian.


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Sticks is a sure fire good NBA player.

I am certain that his current projection is way too low. There are better players that the Wizards could draft; however, he’s the one I want them to draft in the right scenario.

A bunch of posters in the draft board are convinced he's a 2nd rounder - one I just talked to said he's got him in the 40's. I think he should go before 20, but there are a bunch of bigs in this draft that could push him down - as more teams are looking for wings.
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Post#209 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:06 am

Ruzious wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I'm still very high on stick Smith. To be honest with you. I think rui is gonna settle in as a bigger 3 once him shot starts falling and having a big springy 4-5 to play with rui and Bryant would be nice.

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Sticks is a sure fire good NBA player.

I am certain that his current projection is way too low. There are better players that the Wizards could draft; however, he’s the one I want them to draft in the right scenario.

A bunch of posters in the draft board are convinced he's a 2nd rounder - one I just talked to said he's got him in the 40's. I think he should go before 20, but there are a bunch of bigs in this draft that could push him down - as more teams are looking for wings.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalen_Smith

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jalen-smith-1.html

Here is why you are right.

Jalen Smith B1G ranks; 2nd in blocks, 2nd in rebounds, 7th In points and points per game; but just 17th in minutes played.

3rd in player efficiency
2nd in true shooting

1st in effective field goal percentage


Ruzious; feel free to plaster your draft board convo with this, “Ask Jonathan G if he remembers what I told him about Paul Millsap?” Told you he should’ve been a lottery pick BEFORE he went 47th.

Jalen Smith is the best Maryland players since Buck Williams. Bias was a superstar but not as well rounded. Jalen hits threes, blocks shots, rebounds exceptionally well...Geez, why on earth can’t you all see he hasn’t been challenged to have go to moves but he CAN SCORE A BUNCH, too.

That kid is even better than Rui Hachimura. Plus, he’s far more versatile AMD he’s got more UPSIDE.

Son of a retired Navy chief. Middle name Rasheed. Not even close to physical maturity.

The Wizards need to trade down and get Jalen Smith!!!
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Post#210 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:55 am

payitforward wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
Pretty good info here


Excellent really:

Joe Rogan interviews Infectious disease specialist from CIDRAP. (Center for infectious disease) who predicted this.

38 or so minutes in he says, how to combat it.

Basically rest and maintain a healthy immune system. Avoid smoking, obesity, etc.

It’s transmitted through respiration, largely in the 4 or so days before you show symptoms. So hand washing etc is a fine thing to prevent infection in general but itself does little to combat this. And only sealed face masks (industrial or medical quality) will prevent contracting it, though sure they will block a cough that would propel it further.

It tends not to show in kids, they’ll transmit it but not have symptoms. It tends to be worse in smokers and overweight people. But health care workers are especially vulnerable due to constant exposure and overwork.

He says we are looking at months not weeks in the rollout of this. But yes now is a good time to hit a pause button.

Yes, really helpful & informative.


Turns out it was about three months.

Wearing a mask, Social distancing and frequent handwashing. Turns out that was the solution.
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Post#211 » by montestewart » Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:00 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
And there's still the question of - should they allow people in the stands during the games? It's going to seem weird to go from not allowing anyone to enter the stadium to allowing packed houses. Maybe there could be some kind of compromise - like selling only every other seat?


Best 2 of 3 makes sense, but with no attendance, can't have people flying in from all over the country bringing who knows what at this point, it's too soon....even in June.


So the final answer is Orlando with no audience and the Wizards are one of the teams in the hunt. Right?

It is possible that the wizards could win the championship this season! :-)

Then we can rename the Cool Hades Flying Pigs!
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Post#212 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:14 pm

There is a significant number of NBA players who are disappointed that everyone wasn’t given the opportunity to vote on whether to restart the 2019-20 season, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Last week, the National Basketball Players Association executive committee and its board of representatives approved the league’s 22-team, return-to-play format to be held at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida, in late July.

The complaint, privately expressed by multiple players, is that every player’s voice wasn’t heard for this critical and potentially life-changing vote, sources said.

The unease about relocating to a quarantined campus during the COVID-19 pandemic was already viewed as hazardous and unnecessary to many players. But because of the George Floyd tragedy and the powerful movement for racial justice that’s sweeping the nation, some players believe it’s bad optics for a league comprised predominantly of black men to be sequestered in one location for up to three months merely to entertain the masses and ease the league’s economic burden, sources said.


https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-significant-number-of-players-disappointed-about-not-having-a-vote-regarding-nb-as-return-143937552.html
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Post#213 » by payitforward » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:47 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
payitforward wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
Excellent really:

Joe Rogan interviews Infectious disease specialist from CIDRAP. (Center for infectious disease) who predicted this.

38 or so minutes in he says, how to combat it.

Basically rest and maintain a healthy immune system. Avoid smoking, obesity, etc.

It’s transmitted through respiration, largely in the 4 or so days before you show symptoms. So hand washing etc is a fine thing to prevent infection in general but itself does little to combat this. And only sealed face masks (industrial or medical quality) will prevent contracting it, though sure they will block a cough that would propel it further.

It tends not to show in kids, they’ll transmit it but not have symptoms. It tends to be worse in smokers and overweight people. But health care workers are especially vulnerable due to constant exposure and overwork.

He says we are looking at months not weeks in the rollout of this. But yes now is a good time to hit a pause button.

Yes, really helpful & informative.


Turns out it was about three months.

Wearing a mask, Social distancing and frequent handwashing. Turns out that was the solution.

Oh God no.... This is not over -- not nearly over.

Quarantine, social distancing, etc.... -- those. things have flattened the curve. A good thing all on its own, but by no means a solution. Without a vaccine, the same number of people is likely to get the virus as under any other scenario -- just not in as short a time period.
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Post#214 » by doclinkin » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:57 pm

payitforward wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
payitforward wrote:Yes, really helpful & informative.


Turns out it was about three months.

Wearing a mask, Social distancing and frequent handwashing. Turns out that was the solution.

Oh God no.... This is not over -- not nearly over.

Quarantine, social distancing, etc.... -- those. things have flattened the curve. A good thing all on its own, but by no means a solution. Without a vaccine, the same number of people is likely to get the virus as under any other scenario -- just not in as short a time period.


And since we can't seem to isolate, contain, and starve it out, the virus is still mutating within the human population. We are seeing new symptoms. We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had along.
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Post#215 » by nate33 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:24 pm

doclinkin wrote:
payitforward wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Turns out it was about three months.

Wearing a mask, Social distancing and frequent handwashing. Turns out that was the solution.

Oh God no.... This is not over -- not nearly over.

Quarantine, social distancing, etc.... -- those. things have flattened the curve. A good thing all on its own, but by no means a solution. Without a vaccine, the same number of people is likely to get the virus as under any other scenario -- just not in as short a time period.


And since we can't seem to isolate, contain, and starve it out, the virus is still mutating within the human population. We are seeing new symptoms. We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had along.

Agreed. It is not over. There will be a second wave, but it won't reach NYC proportions. Modest social distancing, mask use in densely populated areas, and the elimination of superspreader events will be enough to keep the spread of the virus down to manageable levels throughout the summer. (By manageable, I mean hospitals will not be overwhelmed.)

Viruses spread easier in the winter months. As winter approaches, infections will increase, but that dynamic will be partially offset by a growing herd immunity. In some areas, a tightening of the lockdown may be necessary. In others, we will probably be okay. The areas that were hit worst this year should have the mildest second wave.
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Post#216 » by payitforward » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:52 pm

nate33 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:...We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chronic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had along.

Agreed...

I knew you'd come around, nate!!

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Post#217 » by doclinkin » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:21 pm

nate33 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
payitforward wrote:Oh God no.... This is not over -- not nearly over.

Quarantine, social distancing, etc.... -- those. things have flattened the curve. A good thing all on its own, but by no means a solution. Without a vaccine, the same number of people is likely to get the virus as under any other scenario -- just not in as short a time period.


And since we can't seem to isolate, contain, and starve it out, the virus is still mutating within the human population. We are seeing new symptoms. We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had all along.

Agreed. It is not over. There will be a second wave, but it won't reach NYC proportions. Modest social distancing, mask use in densely populated areas, and the elimination of superspreader events will be enough to keep the spread of the virus down to manageable levels throughout the summer. (By manageable, I mean hospitals will not be overwhelmed.)

Viruses spread easier in the winter months. As winter approaches, infections will increase, but that dynamic will be partially offset by a growing herd immunity.


Unproven. While the majority of people who have been infected and survived COVID form antibodies in response to the infection, we still don't have evidence that those antibodies prevent reinfection and if so, for how long. This from folks at NIH who are tracking this carefully.

Really the one thing that would make the biggest difference is widespread testing and re-testing. Americans are naturally suspicious of Contact tracing protocols, especially as overseen by the Government, or hell, by iPhones. But if there was a quick free test with an app (and HIPAA waiver disclaimer) that simply allowed you to ping it to someone else's phone for dating purposes or whatever then I think a large population of people would make that a natural part of societal pressure. (You don't have to take the app, but if you want to get into THIS exclusive club, or THAT bar of X-event of significant size, then you need a recent 'green check mark' on your Good2Go app or whatever. Get G2G!+ for iPhones and Android, and your fitbit.

Leastways that's how I would write it in a near future dystopia sci fi novel. (And frankly that tech could eventually be expanded to STDs or whatever other test info you allowed the app to share with someone else's phone). It's a billion dollar idea, if I do say so myself. Needs some lawyers and programmers and social media ninjas behind it, (and maybe lobbyists eventually), but still.
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Post#218 » by dckingsfan » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:45 pm

doclinkin wrote:
nate33 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
And since we can't seem to isolate, contain, and starve it out, the virus is still mutating within the human population. We are seeing new symptoms. We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had all along.

Agreed. It is not over. There will be a second wave, but it won't reach NYC proportions. Modest social distancing, mask use in densely populated areas, and the elimination of superspreader events will be enough to keep the spread of the virus down to manageable levels throughout the summer. (By manageable, I mean hospitals will not be overwhelmed.)

Viruses spread easier in the winter months. As winter approaches, infections will increase, but that dynamic will be partially offset by a growing herd immunity.

Unproven. While the majority of people who have been infected and survived COVID form antibodies in response to the infection, we still don't have evidence that those antibodies prevent reinfection and if so, for how long. This from folks at NIH who are tracking this carefully.

Really the one thing that would make the biggest difference is widespread testing and re-testing. Americans are naturally suspicious of Contact tracing protocols, especially as overseen by the Government, or hell, by iPhones. But if there was a quick free test with an app (and HIPAA waiver disclaimer) that simply allowed you to ping it to someone else's phone for dating purposes or whatever then I think a large population of people would make that a natural part of societal pressure. (You don't have to take the app, but if you want to get into THIS exclusive club, or THAT bar of X-event of significant size, then you need a recent 'green check mark' on your Good2Go app or whatever. Get G2G!+ for iPhones and Android, and your fitbit.

Leastways that's how I would write it in a near future dystopia sci fi novel. (And frankly that tech could eventually be expanded to STDs or whatever other test info you allowed the app to share with someone else's phone). It's a billion dollar idea, if I do say so myself. Needs some lawyers and programmers and social media ninjas behind it, (and maybe lobbyists eventually), but still.

This. Test, trace and quarantine would be tremendously helpful, places like NZ and SK have done this quite successfully. And if we could actually get the population to mask, we would be home free in months.

But without masking (much less test, trace and quarantine) , we won't have a fast drop. Without the fast drop we won't have confidence. Without the confidence the economy ramps back up slowly.

Without that we have to wait for herd immunity (which may never come) or for the virus to morph and not kill its host (which should happen but in Darwinian time scales (for virus)).

And back to the topic. I think there will still be folks willing to go back to NBA games. If you are young and feel it doesn't matter because it won't kill you - you might very well go. Older folks - it might take a bit of time for them to want to come back out.
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Post#219 » by dckingsfan » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 pm

doclinkin wrote:... We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests, memorial day parties, non-maskers in stores, etc.. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had along.

Just helping :D
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Post#220 » by doclinkin » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:55 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
doclinkin wrote:... We are seeing a swell of cases from Memorial day, haven't seen the effects of 2 weeks of mass protests, memorial day parties, non-maskers in stores, etc.. We are just distracted from the acute public health pandemic by the chromic brutality and injustice pandemic we have had along.

Just helping :D


Not really.

I said Memorial Day. We are starting to see an uptick in hospitalizations from the Memorial day re-opening. What other singular even has drawn mass crowds? I've been to protests. They're awesome. Literally awe inspiring. Still, we will see if there is an aftershock in cases from people sharing space with no possibility of social distance. No point trying to make science politically correct. I'd bet there was an uptick in cases from crowds of gun toting protesters who wanted to reopen everything. Large groups equals many more infection vectors.

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