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Odds are the contract becomes an albatross we eventually have to attach a 1st rounder to get rid of.

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Shooters making serious dough.
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Yeah, not the Bertans deal I dreamed of exactly but the Harris signing instantly makes it look better.

Davis Bertans is not worth $16m a year. That's pretty straightforward.

But... so what? If we can afford the deal, & if it doesn't hamstring us, fine.... It's fun to watch him shoot the ball.

I'd feel better about the deal if we'd gotten 5 or 6 rookies, what can I say?

trast66 wrote:Odds are the contract becomes an albatross we eventually have to attach a 1st rounder to get rid of.

Doubt it. Bertans is never going to forget how to shoot. He will only be 32 in the final year.

5 years, 80 mil huh. Lol looks like the Ghost of Grunfeld is still alive and well.

payitforward wrote:Do you think the Hawks would take Rui for John Collins? No. I guess not. So... Rui plus what for John Collins? Would they take Rui plus Jerome? Nah....

In any case, Collins wants a max contract, which we can't give him.

Zach Lowe on his podcast said that Collins is probably going to be available on the market because of Okongwu and Capela and they have struggled with finding his position. I don't think they would take Rui for John Collins, that deal could have happened maybe during Rui's rookie season. The value is Rui is decreasing as the league realizes who he is, a net negative offense and defense dinosaur. Collins is bad on defense but special on offense. And yes, we can't overpay Collins.

This Gallinari signing means Collins is out the door.

Derrick Jones went for MLE money

With Davis & Gill plus 2 rookies we are at something like $123m for 13 players. To me it would make sense to sign Mathews to a regular contract -- call it $1m.

That would leave us enough $ under the tax to sign a FA for the full MLE. Common sense suggests that it should be a defensive, rim-protecting Center -- i.e. Nerlens Noel if possible.

NatP4 wrote:Derrick Jones went for MLE money

I underestimated his market. I didn't think he would sign for that at all.

NatP4 wrote:Derrick Jones went for MLE money

That's a wow! Tho... he's certainly worth it.

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We are signing robin lopez. What is going on

Meliorus wrote:

payitforward wrote:Do you think the Hawks would take Rui for John Collins? No. I guess not. So... Rui plus what for John Collins? Would they take Rui plus Jerome? Nah....

In any case, Collins wants a max contract, which we can't give him.

Zach Lowe on his podcast said that Collins is probably going to be available on the market because of Okongwu and Capela and they have struggled with finding his position. I don't think they would take Rui for John Collins, that deal could have happened maybe during Rui's rookie season. The value is Rui is decreasing as the league realizes who he is, a net negative offense and defense dinosaur. Collins is bad on defense but special on offense. And yes, we can't overpay Collins.

This Gallinari signing means Collins is out the door.

Right on all points, IMO. Including about Rui, alas -- though he gets another season to put it together, show he's something special.

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Why the hell did we sign Robin freaking lopez. This is bizarre. Now we have:

Brown Avdija
Rui Bertans Gill
Bryant Lopez Wagner

We are definitely trading some young assets somewhere. Probably in a desperate wall trade

Yes, attaching Bryant to Wall? Robin Lopez - did not see that coming.

Signing Robin Lopez is... pathetic.

Ok, I give up. Tommy Sheppard is really going through the layers of good will I felt for him. In a big hurry.

Deni Avdija better be extremely good. Cassius Winston better play like what you'd hope for from a high R2 pick.