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Political Roundtable Part XXIX

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1901 » by verbal8 » Sat May 8, 2021 7:37 pm

dobrojim wrote:The optimist in me believes that this infatuation with such a truly horrible
and tragically damaged person as leader is doomed to end badly.
The concern remains about how much damage to all of us this will result
in. And as hard as many of us try to convince these followers that this
is not going to end well, the saying there are none so blind as those
who will not see comes to mind.


Trump is making the GOP his political USFL. Hopefully the next 4 years will have a similar result to at least Trumpism, if not the whole GOP.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1902 » by Wizardspride » Sun May 9, 2021 4:50 pm

Read on Twitter
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President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1903 » by Wizardspride » Sun May 9, 2021 5:03 pm

Read on Twitter
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President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1904 » by dckingsfan » Mon May 10, 2021 4:44 pm

NOAA's updated 30 year trend report - one picture tells much of the story...

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https://www.noaa.gov/news/new-us-climate-normals-are-here-what-do-they-tell-us-about-climate-change
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1905 » by Zonkerbl » Mon May 10, 2021 5:38 pm

dckingsfan wrote:NOAA's updated 30 year trend report - one picture tells much of the story...

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https://www.noaa.gov/news/new-us-climate-normals-are-here-what-do-they-tell-us-about-climate-change


fake news
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1906 » by dckingsfan » Mon May 10, 2021 7:09 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:NOAA's updated 30 year trend report - one picture tells much of the story...

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https://www.noaa.gov/news/new-us-climate-normals-are-here-what-do-they-tell-us-about-climate-change

fake news

:rofl:

We went from, "it isn't happening" to "it is happening but not manmade and not a problem" to "this is a problem" to "this is manmade and a problem" and yet...

Now even MarketWatch and other business magazines, business entities and farmers are "tipping" over...

NEW YORK (Project Syndicate)—Like most worthwhile pursuits, reducing carbon pollution comes with costs. If it didn’t, climate change wouldn’t be a problem in the first place—at least not from a narrow economic perspective. But climate change, and what it demands of us, is also a deeply political issue.

Now that the direct economic costs of climate action have declined, the debate is shifting to the political and social difficulties of moving away from fossil fuels and toward a low-carbon, high-efficiency world.


On the matter of economic costs, climate action is becoming more affordable across the board. The costs of solar photovoltaic (PV) panels have plummeted by over 85% in under a decade, and by well over 99% since the first panels found their way onto people’s roofs in the early 1980s.


and

It is clear that looking only at the costs of reducing carbon pollution is not enough; they must be compared with the costs of unmitigated climate change. Moreover, neither cost is, nor ever will be, distributed equally. Coal miners and manufacturers of internal combustion engines will necessarily bear more of the costs of climate action, whereas poor and vulnerable communities will bear the brunt of climate inaction.

Overall, though, there is no comparison: the costs of inaction far outweigh the costs of cutting carbon-dioxide emissions.


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/climate-change-has-finally-reached-a-tipping-point-that-we-can-welcome-11620149776
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1907 » by Ruzious » Mon May 10, 2021 10:43 pm

Here's entertaining stuff from Trump's biggest critic back in 2016:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=march+10%2c+2016+graham+on+trump&docid=608000930636778633&mid=2F4DCC85D64134805D082F4DCC85D64134805D08&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Watch till the end and then watch the interview that follows it - from CNN.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1908 » by dobrojim » Tue May 11, 2021 2:31 pm

^ I didn’t see a relevant interview afterwards. Curious.

In any case, the continued presence of Graham in the Senate is
not ringing endorsement of their judgment as SC voters.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1909 » by dobrojim » Tue May 11, 2021 2:50 pm

Dupe post
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1910 » by Ruzious » Tue May 11, 2021 4:51 pm

dobrojim wrote:^ I didn’t see a relevant interview afterwards. Curious.

In any case, the continued presence of Graham in the Senate is
not ringing endorsement of their judgment as SC voters.

Click the right arrow - should be an interview with him on CNN.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1911 » by Pointgod » Tue May 11, 2021 7:53 pm

dobrojim wrote:^ I didn’t see a relevant interview afterwards. Curious.

In any case, the continued presence of Graham in the Senate is
not ringing endorsement of their judgment as SC voters.


Because the white people in South Carolina would rather deal with a snivelling coward like Graham than a black guy.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1912 » by dobrojim » Tue May 11, 2021 11:21 pm

Probably 6-8 years ago I heard a story from a friend who had travelled to SC and
at one point during their visit they called their host saying they were at Walmart
and did they need anything? Their hosts were immediately concerned for them
maybe as they knew generally where they were and told them they were at
the 'black' Walmart. Apparently in whatever part of SC they were in,
de facto segregation was part of the culture of the area. Of course
these White people, out of towners, were perfectly safe but it raised
concerns among their local friends.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1913 » by Wizardspride » Wed May 12, 2021 2:44 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1914 » by Ruzious » Wed May 12, 2021 2:34 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter
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How obvious is it that the numerous counts of obstruction of justice made it as if a mafia Don was in charge of the WH? I'll probably shake my head forever in anger and frustration as to how so many people are ok with that.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1915 » by Pointgod » Wed May 12, 2021 2:42 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter
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How obvious is it that the numerous counts of obstruction of justice made it as if a mafia Don was in charge of the WH? I'll probably shake my head forever in anger and frustration as to how so many people are ok with that.


Because these people are parasites that have no allegiance to anything other than power. The right wing literally accuses Biden of doing everything that we KNOW Trump did! These people are so morally bankrupt that they encourage the behavior when it’s their guy. It should be a warning this is exactly how Putin’s Russia and Xi’s China started.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1916 » by Ruzious » Wed May 12, 2021 3:10 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
Read on Twitter
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How obvious is it that the numerous counts of obstruction of justice made it as if a mafia Don was in charge of the WH? I'll probably shake my head forever in anger and frustration as to how so many people are ok with that.


Because these people are parasites that have no allegiance to anything other than power. The right wing literally accuses Biden of doing everything that we KNOW Trump did! These people are so morally bankrupt that they encourage the behavior when it’s their guy. It should be a warning this is exactly how Putin’s Russia and Xi’s China started.

As if we needed more evidence of that being the case... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-republicans-oust-a-defiant-liz-cheney-for-her-repudiation-of-trumps-election-lies/ar-BB1gE9Ob?li=BBnb7Kz
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1917 » by montestewart » Wed May 12, 2021 10:11 pm

dobrojim wrote:Probably 6-8 years ago I heard a story from a friend who had travelled to SC and
at one point during their visit they called their host saying they were at Walmart
and did they need anything? Their hosts were immediately concerned for them
maybe as they knew generally where they were and told them they were at
the 'black' Walmart. Apparently in whatever part of SC they were in,
de facto segregation was part of the culture of the area. Of course
these White people, out of towners, were perfectly safe but it raised
concerns among their local friends.

You don’t have to go to SC, you can find the same in Virginia or Maryland
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1918 » by pancakes3 » Thu May 13, 2021 2:26 pm

younger ppl aren't much better in terms of hiding their coding. older millennials like me would call places "ghetto" and younger millennials call them "sketch"

as in "i love crown fried chicken [on H street] but that place is sketch"
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1919 » by Zonkerbl » Thu May 13, 2021 7:36 pm

I think this guy's right. Before Trump came along and turned me into a frothing at the mouth leftie, I also wished there was a fiscally conservative, socially moderate/liberal alternative to the GOP. If some moderates break off of the GOP and swear off racism, xenophobia, and misogyny, I think they'd be surprised at how much support they'd get from both parties and independents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/12/republicans-should-be-nervous-about-proposed-third-party-democrats-should-be-too/

I've been saying all along that should the GOP go up in flames, it would be healthy for the Democrats to break up into a moderate and progressive wing. Maybe this is how it happens.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1920 » by Ruzious » Thu May 13, 2021 8:24 pm

Read on Twitter


And yeah, that's not satire; it's a real thing.
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