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Post#61 » by Ruzious » Thu Oct 8, 2020 9:38 am

Well, we know RR doesn't make decisions lightly, so that does give a level of comfort that he's made the right decision. Otoh, I think we need to see something better from Allen this week. Otherwise, it's on to Alex Smith.
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Post#62 » by Dark Faze » Thu Oct 8, 2020 7:05 pm

Haskins wasn't pulled because of gameday tape. There was something else going on behind the scenes--whether it was work ethic or something else I don't know, but they pulled him too quick for it to only be about what was going on on game days.
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Post#63 » by queridiculo » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:29 pm

Still early, but the way Allen handles pressure is night and day from what we have seen with Haskins.
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Post#64 » by queridiculo » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:56 pm

Jack Del Rio's defense is as embarrassing as his Twitter feed.
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Post#65 » by Ruzious » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:23 pm

Well, we had 111 yards passing and a whole lotto sacks. Just sayin.

The NFC East must be setting futility records this year.
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Post#66 » by Dark Faze » Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:11 pm

This coaching staff looks like butt. Hate to condemn them so early, but I'm actually shocked that the Rivera/Del Rio combination is performing this poorly on the defensive side. That side of the roster isn't bad. I'd even argue it's good on paper.

Offensively...yea. That side of the ball is a bag of trash. Even so, Scott Turner looks awful.

Haskins somewhat redeemed by todays game. Judging by what I saw I think we'll see him starting again at some point this year.
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Post#67 » by TGW » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:13 am

Dark Faze wrote:This coaching staff looks like butt. Hate to condemn them so early, but I'm actually shocked that the Rivera/Del Rio combination is performing this poorly on the defensive side. That side of the roster isn't bad. I'd even argue it's good on paper.

Offensively...yea. That side of the ball is a bag of trash. Even so, Scott Turner looks awful.

Haskins somewhat redeemed by todays game. Judging by what I saw I think we'll see him starting again at some point this year.


This is shortsighted. This team lacks talent everywhere except on the defensive line. The backend of the defense is below average and the linebackers are a bunch of no names. Offensively, they literally have two players that are above average. This is a 4 win roster...anyone who thought this team was better than that was deluding themselves.
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Post#68 » by queridiculo » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:19 pm

I have had my reservations about Riviera's appointment from the start, and I haven't see anything so far that has changed my mind.

Some rah-rah about culture, toughness and accountability that typically plays well with fans, but his decision making in all facets of the organization has been suspect.

From the way they he has handled the malcontents on the team, to roster building decisions and coordinator appointments as well as how they've bungled Haskins, it's all been very unimpressive.

In fact, if you hadn't told me that there was a new Sherif in town, it's about par for the course with how this organization has done business in the past.

Oh, and another note on Jack Del Rio, I cannot for the life of me figure out how this organization ever added somebody with his Twitter persona to the organization given what the country has been through with this inept, divisive leadership.

As black man, I couldn't see myself playing for that jack ass.
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Post#69 » by TGW » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:43 pm

^^I just checked Del Rio's twitter. Yep....he's a confirmed jackass.
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Post#70 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:14 pm

According to the local media, the QB change was made because RR believed the team had a real shot at the playoffs, and it would be helped by starting Allen. To me, that made no sense. Obviously, the team needs a ton of improvement, and whether or not you like Haskins, everyone knew the situation that he needed more time to be evaluated. Now, it's looking like we have to draft another 1st round QB - preventing us from using the pick to improve other areas of need. I mean... do we even have one legit starting LBer? And the offense has many obvious needs. The DB's unit has problems.
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Post#71 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:31 pm

NFC East contenders... do we really want to win the NFC East with the worst record ever by a division champ?

So, Jon Bostic... He's getting crucified for the hit on Andy Dalton. Should he be? I understand he had to be kicked out of the game, but do we know he do it intentionally - considering Dalton slid when they were going full speed toward each other?
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Post#72 » by Dark Faze » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:51 pm

Ruzious wrote:According to the local media, the QB change was made because RR believed the team had a real shot at the playoffs, and it would be helped by starting Allen. To me, that made no sense. Obviously, the team needs a ton of improvement, and whether or not you like Haskins, everyone knew the situation that he needed more time to be evaluated. Now, it's looking like we have to draft another 1st round QB - preventing us from using the pick to improve other areas of need. I mean... do we even have one legit starting LBer? And the offense has many obvious needs. The DB's unit has problems.


To be fair, you're assuming that watching him play more games is the only way to evaluate Haskins. It's not. Sometimes you're just not ready for a thing. This is the truth in all aspects of life. Haskins isn't ready right now. Continually being setup to fail sometimes is not the recipe for success. Sometimes it's to take a step back and refocus, relearn things that you skipped over, work on your weaknesses. Heck, sometimes a demotion is needed to humble you. I would not get rid of Haskins--we'd be lucky to get a 4th for him right now. Let him work in the film room, show he can be mature about this benching, and eventually we can promote him to backup. Eventually I suspect we'll be eliminated from the playoffs and we can just start Haskins the final 3 or 4 games of the season.

I agree, let's not draft a QB unless we love what's there.
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Post#73 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:52 pm

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Ruzious wrote:According to the local media, the QB change was made because RR believed the team had a real shot at the playoffs, and it would be helped by starting Allen. To me, that made no sense. Obviously, the team needs a ton of improvement, and whether or not you like Haskins, everyone knew the situation that he needed more time to be evaluated. Now, it's looking like we have to draft another 1st round QB - preventing us from using the pick to improve other areas of need. I mean... do we even have one legit starting LBer? And the offense has many obvious needs. The DB's unit has problems.


To be fair, you're assuming that watching him play more games is the only way to evaluate Haskins. It's not. Sometimes you're just not ready for a thing. This is the truth in all aspects of life. Haskins isn't ready right now. Continually being setup to fail sometimes is not the recipe for success. Sometimes it's to take a step back and refocus, relearn things that you skipped over, work on your weaknesses. Heck, sometimes a demotion is needed to humble you. I would not get rid of Haskins--we'd be lucky to get a 4th for him right now. Let him work in the film room, show he can be mature about this benching, and eventually we can promote him to backup. Eventually I suspect we'll be eliminated from the playoffs and we can just start Haskins the final 3 or 4 games of the season.

I agree, let's not draft a QB unless we love what's there.

You could very well be right, but the problem is that doesn't seem to have been the message given to him. Overnight, he went from starter and team captain to 3rd string and off the active roster - and without an encouraging word. And too many things have been leaked about him. Just the other day, it was leaked that he was fined $5,000 for allowing a friend to get a room in the team's hotel. Those kinds of fines happen all the time, but they don't get leaked - but once again, someone from the team must have leaked it. I only found out about it, because the local radio station was making a huge deal about it - particularly Chris Russell - until a former Skin called his show to try to diplomatically make him understand that the bigger deal was that the team leaked the information. And now, Chris Russell is saying his sources say that the Skins might trade Haskins for dirt cheap. Meanwhile, I hear nobody in the Skins organization defending Haskins. Unless that happens, I think Russell turns out to be right - which is unfortunate.
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