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NatP4 wrote:

Everything you just said. The new NBA is about guys that can lead your team with the ball in their hands. Highly competitive smart players that can make the right play in the PNR. You’re aiming for a van fleet/Lowry type with this pick.

DCZards wrote:

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

nate33 wrote:Excellent!

If it's the 2021 OKC pick that should be pretty good. 2021 is reportedly a strong draft and OKC is likely to miss the playoffs in a brutal western conference. We don't have a 2021 pick as it stands now.

Okay, but the skeptic in me says that because the Wizards traded him the Vit dude likely turns into a very good player,

Where does Winston fit behind Wall, Smith, Napier, and even Troy Brown?

Napier is a free agent.

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:

doclinkin wrote:I'll judge this draft by our UDFA pick ups.

Diakite ??

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Guess we'll use the MLE to add some D. ?????

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Coach Monty Williams of the Phoenix Suns Is from Oxon Hill, Maryland.

Jalen Smith is going to be the steal of this draft.

payitforward wrote:Deni Avdija was by far the most talented guy on the board at #9; no matter how bad a guy is going to be, in that situation you have to take him. The fact that we could have traded down (or up -- even sideways) & done better or equally well if not worse will never prevent this guy from being out of the league sooner than any player who has ever turned out to be the steal of the draft (which, barring other outcomes, is what I predict for him).

One thing you know: when you pick a sure thing, you're up for a wild ride. I look for this guy to ascend quickly -- he's a strong candidate for RoY, maybe even Training Camp Player of the Year: he's gonna come on that fast.

Listen, you have to keep in mind that the draft is a crap shoot, & we scored big: Deni Avdija has a very high ceiling. In fact, I'd say he has a cathedral ceiling! No, I mean a synagogue ceiling, of course.

& that's just on the first floor. He has a second floor as well -- tho I don't know how high the ceiling is up there.

It's a sure thing that this guy will provoke a lot of doubt & uncertainty for as long as we don't know what out of his past he can improve in the future -- & vice versa. Above all, it seems that the people who like him are an entirely different crew from those who don't -- very little overlap -- but I think that with coaching we can get past that.

In any case, as all of you have observed so perspicaciously on other occasions, the things he doesn't do on the court, other people can do. But the things he does do will provide a notable extra benefit because of the way the rest of the team does them too. Which should lead to some creative lineups.

Admittedly, until he improves his shooting, he will provide little spacing -- but remember: the timing for his spacing is as yet unknown.

When he gets here & we see him for the first time, we'll have a chance to take another look. Until then, we won't know until then. Leave it at that.

The Consiglieri wrote:The one thing I find funny is that in this day and age, w/access to seemingly everything, we can go quite a while w/o a clue what we actually got for trading out of 37 and even at this late hour have no idea what future 2nd rounders are in play as the back part of the deal beyond Winston. It's just kind of odd. Fans that have any interest at all will want to know the contours of the deal. When we have guys jumping ahead of the actual picks on tv to reveal the news, to have no clue what year or even what compensation exists to begin with in regards to a trade just strikes me as obtuse.

Regardless I like the deal for us if for no other reason than the poor quality of the draft and the perception that future classes are virtually guaranteed to be at least perceived as better and deeper. I'd much rather move down and have a second in '21 or '22 or '23, then have picked at slot.

payitforward wrote:Tommy sold that pick? In this draft?

What a colossally stupid thing to do. Well... didn't take long for this team to prove that it doesn't know what it's doing under a new GM any more than it did under the previous one.

Rui -- bad pick.
Admiral -- buy a pick & waste it.
Deni -- keep your fingers crossed.
no one -- good god....

I'm sick.

montestewart wrote:

The Consiglieri wrote:The one thing I find funny is that in this day and age, w/access to seemingly everything, we can go quite a while w/o a clue what we actually got for trading out of 37 and even at this late hour have no idea what future 2nd rounders are in play as the back part of the deal beyond Winston. It's just kind of odd. Fans that have any interest at all will want to know the contours of the deal. When we have guys jumping ahead of the actual picks on tv to reveal the news, to have no clue what year or even what compensation exists to begin with in regards to a trade just strikes me as obtuse.

Regardless I like the deal for us if for no other reason than the poor quality of the draft and the perception that future classes are virtually guaranteed to be at least perceived as better and deeper. I'd much rather move down and have a second in '21 or '22 or '23, then have picked at slot.

If the Winston pick is successful, PIF will release the trade down kraken.

NatP4 wrote:

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Fat, slow 4th string PG.

Wohoo.

One of the best players in the country over the last 3 years. Absolute stud, lights out shooter, leader, alpha, character guy.

That’s a home run at 53. I would’ve been thrilled with Winston at 37. I wanted a Van Fleet type of player in round 2, this is it.

That’s an excellent move. We all had PTSD from Ernie.

DCZards wrote:

DCZards wrote:My draft predictions for the Zards:

#9 -- Isaac Okoro (assuming Okongwu is gone)
#37 -- Daniel Oturu (rebounds & rim protection)

The Zards will buy at least one second round pick. They’ll use the pick to select either Cassius Winston or Immanuel Quickley.

Looks like I got at least something right.