ImageImageImageImageImage

Wizards sign Robin Lopez

Moderators: LyricalRico, nate33, montestewart

dlts20
RealGM
Posts: 11,027
And1: 4,422
Joined: Dec 14, 2006

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#101 » by dlts20 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:37 pm

People forget how good Wall is at finding people. He's basically never had a stretch big in his whole career. Bryant and Bertans will feast off of Wall
dlts20
RealGM
Posts: 11,027
And1: 4,422
Joined: Dec 14, 2006

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#102 » by dlts20 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:46 pm

I also like how Tommy was a straight shooter with FAs about Bryant being the starter. That's really respectable
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#103 » by nate33 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:07 pm

dlts20 wrote:People forget how good Wall is at finding people. He's basically never had a stretch big in his whole career. Bryant and Bertans will feast off of Wall

He played 13 games with Thomas Bryant at center (after Dwight got hurt) and he averaged 22 and 12, this despite playing on one leg in massive pain. I distinctly remember him getting to the rim at will when the spread the floor and played 5 out. He posted his second highest percentage of shots at the rim of his career (bested only in his second season when he was a reckless penetrator without any perimeter game as an alternative).
User avatar
doclinkin
RealGM
Posts: 10,302
And1: 2,444
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: .wizuds.

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#104 » by doclinkin » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:25 pm

dlts20 wrote:People forget how good Wall is at finding people. He's basically never had a stretch big in his whole career. Bryant and Bertans will feast off of Wall



Ditto Lopez who hit 38% from the Right corner three.
User avatar
doclinkin
RealGM
Posts: 10,302
And1: 2,444
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: .wizuds.

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#105 » by doclinkin » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:36 pm

Katz, the Athletic:

Lopez fills three necessary holes:

1. The Wizards put emphasis on his rebounding.

“We’re trying to find guys that can really help prevent us from getting paint attacks all the time, trying to find guys that are great defensive rebounders that box out,” Sheppard said. “I hate to compare player to player, but Robin has a lot of the same vibe that Nenê gave us when we acquired Nenê. If you look at Nenê’s numbers, he wasn’t necessarily always the best rebounder, but you did notice his guy never got a rebound. You did notice he brought a lot of physicality, and you did notice that people really didn’t mess with him.”

As Sheppard mentioned, the way to evaluate Lopez’s rebounding isn’t with individual numbers.

He is wonderful at boxing out opponents to carve space. Often, he’s not the one corralling boards in those scenarios. Instead, he’s butt-shoving other guys out of the paint while his teammates grab boards without anyone else around. He averaged 6.1 rebounds per 36 minutes last season, unimpressive for a 7-footer. He’s never averaged 10 per 36. But he’s also been in the league for 12 years, has played for six different teams with tons of different roster makeups, and never — not once — has one of his squads been worse at rebounding while he’s playing. Never. For a dozen consecutive years, his teams have either grabbed the same or a higher percentage of available rebounds when he’s on the court. That is way too long to be a fluke. And it passes the eye test.

2. Lopez has a defensive trait the Wizards need: He’s a smart, in-place defender who doesn’t foul much. He’s a helpful positional defender, like Nenê — though he didn’t show the mobility in Milwaukee last season that Wizards-era Nenê did during his best seasons. Washington will want to keep him around the paint defensively. But he’s also not going to over-foul, which is a significant problem for many of the backup centers who were free agents this year, including guys like Noel and Dwight Howard. The Wizards fouled at an unacceptable rate last season. Lopez will help with that.

3. He isn’t exactly a leaper, but he is coming off his best rim-protection season. Get this: During a season when his twin brother, Brook, whom he backed up in Milwaukee, made it onto Defensive Player of the Year ballots because of the way he manned the paint, Robin actually excelled around the hoop just as much. For as competitive as the two brothers are with each other, there’s a good chance Robin would want to know this stat: Opponents shot 46.7 percent on layups and dunks that Brook contested, an elite number and one of the chief reasons he made an All-Defensive team. Well, Robin’s number was six-tenths of a percentage point better: 46.1 percent.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#106 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:05 pm

doclinkin wrote:Katz, the Athletic:

Lopez fills three necessary holes:

1. The Wizards put emphasis on his rebounding.

“We’re trying to find guys that can really help prevent us from getting paint attacks all the time, trying to find guys that are great defensive rebounders that box out,” Sheppard said. “I hate to compare player to player, but Robin has a lot of the same vibe that Nenê gave us when we acquired Nenê. If you look at Nenê’s numbers, he wasn’t necessarily always the best rebounder, but you did notice his guy never got a rebound. You did notice he brought a lot of physicality, and you did notice that people really didn’t mess with him.”

As Sheppard mentioned, the way to evaluate Lopez’s rebounding isn’t with individual numbers.

He is wonderful at boxing out opponents to carve space. Often, he’s not the one corralling boards in those scenarios. Instead, he’s butt-shoving other guys out of the paint while his teammates grab boards without anyone else around. He averaged 6.1 rebounds per 36 minutes last season, unimpressive for a 7-footer. He’s never averaged 10 per 36. But he’s also been in the league for 12 years, has played for six different teams with tons of different roster makeups, and never — not once — has one of his squads been worse at rebounding while he’s playing. Never. For a dozen consecutive years, his teams have either grabbed the same or a higher percentage of available rebounds when he’s on the court. That is way too long to be a fluke. And it passes the eye test.

2. Lopez has a defensive trait the Wizards need: He’s a smart, in-place defender who doesn’t foul much. He’s a helpful positional defender, like Nenê — though he didn’t show the mobility in Milwaukee last season that Wizards-era Nenê did during his best seasons. Washington will want to keep him around the paint defensively. But he’s also not going to over-foul, which is a significant problem for many of the backup centers who were free agents this year, including guys like Noel and Dwight Howard. The Wizards fouled at an unacceptable rate last season. Lopez will help with that.

3. He isn’t exactly a leaper, but he is coming off his best rim-protection season. Get this: During a season when his twin brother, Brook, whom he backed up in Milwaukee, made it onto Defensive Player of the Year ballots because of the way he manned the paint, Robin actually excelled around the hoop just as much. For as competitive as the two brothers are with each other, there’s a good chance Robin would want to know this stat: Opponents shot 46.7 percent on layups and dunks that Brook contested, an elite number and one of the chief reasons he made an All-Defensive team. Well, Robin’s number was six-tenths of a percentage point better: 46.1 percent.

Interesting stuff. The point about his teams always rebounding well with him on the floor is significant. I note that that stat held up in Milwaukee, even though Giannis was presumably sitting while Robin Lopez played.
User avatar
doclinkin
RealGM
Posts: 10,302
And1: 2,444
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: .wizuds.

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#107 » by doclinkin » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:14 pm

I think it is useful to note since we don't have a Big that knows how to box out. Rui especially needs to see it and learn it. But Bryant could learn to set a wider base as well, when he is not directly under the hoop contesting for it.
User avatar
nate33
Forum Mod - Wizards
Forum Mod - Wizards
Posts: 57,400
And1: 10,669
Joined: Oct 28, 2002

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#108 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:43 pm

doclinkin wrote:I think it is useful to note since we don't have a Big that knows how to box out. Rui especially needs to see it and learn it. But Bryant could learn to set a wider base as well, when he is not directly under the hoop contesting for it.

If nothing else, Lopez is more likely to transfer his knowledge and ability to Bryant than a guy like Noel would. Noel's abilities seem more rooted in innate athleticism and effort, rather than technique and tactics.
Ruzious
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 42,538
And1: 7,865
Joined: Jul 17, 2001
       

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#109 » by Ruzious » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:07 pm

nate33 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:Katz, the Athletic:

Lopez fills three necessary holes:

1. The Wizards put emphasis on his rebounding.

“We’re trying to find guys that can really help prevent us from getting paint attacks all the time, trying to find guys that are great defensive rebounders that box out,” Sheppard said. “I hate to compare player to player, but Robin has a lot of the same vibe that Nenê gave us when we acquired Nenê. If you look at Nenê’s numbers, he wasn’t necessarily always the best rebounder, but you did notice his guy never got a rebound. You did notice he brought a lot of physicality, and you did notice that people really didn’t mess with him.”

As Sheppard mentioned, the way to evaluate Lopez’s rebounding isn’t with individual numbers.

He is wonderful at boxing out opponents to carve space. Often, he’s not the one corralling boards in those scenarios. Instead, he’s butt-shoving other guys out of the paint while his teammates grab boards without anyone else around. He averaged 6.1 rebounds per 36 minutes last season, unimpressive for a 7-footer. He’s never averaged 10 per 36. But he’s also been in the league for 12 years, has played for six different teams with tons of different roster makeups, and never — not once — has one of his squads been worse at rebounding while he’s playing. Never. For a dozen consecutive years, his teams have either grabbed the same or a higher percentage of available rebounds when he’s on the court. That is way too long to be a fluke. And it passes the eye test.

2. Lopez has a defensive trait the Wizards need: He’s a smart, in-place defender who doesn’t foul much. He’s a helpful positional defender, like Nenê — though he didn’t show the mobility in Milwaukee last season that Wizards-era Nenê did during his best seasons. Washington will want to keep him around the paint defensively. But he’s also not going to over-foul, which is a significant problem for many of the backup centers who were free agents this year, including guys like Noel and Dwight Howard. The Wizards fouled at an unacceptable rate last season. Lopez will help with that.

3. He isn’t exactly a leaper, but he is coming off his best rim-protection season. Get this: During a season when his twin brother, Brook, whom he backed up in Milwaukee, made it onto Defensive Player of the Year ballots because of the way he manned the paint, Robin actually excelled around the hoop just as much. For as competitive as the two brothers are with each other, there’s a good chance Robin would want to know this stat: Opponents shot 46.7 percent on layups and dunks that Brook contested, an elite number and one of the chief reasons he made an All-Defensive team. Well, Robin’s number was six-tenths of a percentage point better: 46.1 percent.

Interesting stuff. The point about his teams always rebounding well with him on the floor is significant. I note that that stat held up in Milwaukee, even though Giannis was presumably sitting while Robin Lopez played.

I think they're getting Robin and Brook Lopez mixed up - to an extent. Robin barely played with Giannis. When I watched Robin when he was on the Bucks, he sold out too many times trying for blocks, and when he was successful stopping his man, there was usually an easy put-back that followed.
"Look, you never know when you may need to borrow a cup of sugar, maybe some milk or a handgun" - Dan C. from Texas
Gig18
Sophomore
Posts: 169
And1: 61
Joined: Jun 02, 2012

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#110 » by Gig18 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:57 pm

I don't know. Pretty hard to confuse those two. Brook is like Dennis Quaid. Robin's like Dennis Quaid! :) sorry Robin, welcome to the Wiz.
Gig18
Sophomore
Posts: 169
And1: 61
Joined: Jun 02, 2012

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#111 » by Gig18 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:27 pm

Uhh, RANDY Quaid...
Frichuela
Junior
Posts: 363
And1: 254
Joined: Feb 25, 2015
 

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#112 » by Frichuela » Wed Dec 9, 2020 9:19 pm

He is finally here. G-Wiz beware!

Read on Twitter
?s=20
User avatar
Dark Faze
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,688
And1: 1,595
Joined: Dec 27, 2008

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#113 » by Dark Faze » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:24 pm

Kevin Broom already went over the advanced analytics on the Lopez signing and was not impressed:

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/11/23/21589992/2020-nba-free-agency-robin-lopez-wizards-analysis?fbclid=IwAR01_5henLP7VO3qToCRR5juycq60ebvpKFrlirI4MpL0hCN_VZo3hY75cs

Comparing him to near Prime Nene is funny. Nene had better lateral speed than most guards.
User avatar
pancakes3
General Manager
Posts: 8,290
And1: 1,723
Joined: Jul 27, 2003
Location: Virginia
Contact:

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#114 » by pancakes3 » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:29 pm

he's a fun guy though. the intangibles off-court and in practice will be worth it bc he's not logging major minutes anyway.

i hope i get to catch him around the City post-Covid.
Bullets -> Wizards
Ruzious
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 42,538
And1: 7,865
Joined: Jul 17, 2001
       

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#115 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:41 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Kevin Broom already went over the advanced analytics on the Lopez signing and was not impressed:

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/11/23/21589992/2020-nba-free-agency-robin-lopez-wizards-analysis?fbclid=IwAR01_5henLP7VO3qToCRR5juycq60ebvpKFrlirI4MpL0hCN_VZo3hY75cs

Comparing him to near Prime Nene is funny. Nene had better lateral speed than most guards.

One other stat: He was second in the NBA in shots defended (per any amount of minutes) https://www.nba.com/stats/players/hustle/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Per36&sort=CONTESTED_SHOTS&dir=1 second to his brother/teammate, that is. That seemed to be a factor of playing with the Bucks - even Ivan Bender (played very little for Milwaukee and GS) was 6th in the NBA.
"Look, you never know when you may need to borrow a cup of sugar, maybe some milk or a handgun" - Dan C. from Texas
NatP4
General Manager
Posts: 9,448
And1: 2,837
Joined: Jul 24, 2016
         

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#116 » by NatP4 » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:53 pm

I didn't realize he could shoot and make a few 3s.
Ruzious
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 42,538
And1: 7,865
Joined: Jul 17, 2001
       

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#117 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 9, 2020 11:05 pm

pancakes3 wrote:he's a fun guy though. the intangibles off-court and in practice will be worth it bc he's not logging major minutes anyway.

i hope i get to catch him around the City post-Covid.

He was definitely regarded as a great locker room guy in Milwaukee - everyone liked him. This is something Tommy seems to put a premium on.
"Look, you never know when you may need to borrow a cup of sugar, maybe some milk or a handgun" - Dan C. from Texas
User avatar
doclinkin
RealGM
Posts: 10,302
And1: 2,444
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: .wizuds.

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#118 » by doclinkin » Wed Dec 9, 2020 11:44 pm

NatP4 wrote:I didn't realize he could shoot and make a few 3s.


38% from the right corner. Deni was about that from the left side. I feel like the 2nd team could make it interesting. Ballhandling TBJ/Ish, Deni and Lopez spreading the floor, Deni able to attack on a back door cut, Bertans at the top to hit the catch and shoot 3.
badinage
Senior
Posts: 736
And1: 95
Joined: May 09, 2002

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#119 » by badinage » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Kevin Broom already went over the advanced analytics on the Lopez signing and was not impressed:

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2020/11/23/21589992/2020-nba-free-agency-robin-lopez-wizards-analysis?fbclid=IwAR01_5henLP7VO3qToCRR5juycq60ebvpKFrlirI4MpL0hCN_VZo3hY75cs

Comparing him to near Prime Nene is funny. Nene had better lateral speed than most guards.


This is your template:

Kevin Broom went over the _____of the ____ and was not impressed.

Let’s try:

Kevin Broom went over the theory of gravity of the free-falling body and was not impressed.
User avatar
queridiculo
RealGM
Posts: 14,834
And1: 6,184
Joined: Mar 29, 2005
Location: Maximum Pain Zone
   

Re: Keith Smith: Wizards sign Robin Lopez 

Post#120 » by queridiculo » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:57 pm

Image

Return to Washington Wizards