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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#621 » by mariller » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:06 am

Believing that John Wall would be "running around" anywhere is simply delusional. The man hasn't been "running around" for past 5 years.
For Houston to ensure the tank, all they have to do is leave him on the floor - so IMO this is legit health concern.
Just looking at this, this trade has been an enourmous win for Wizards.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#622 » by prime1time » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:29 pm

A lot of really terrible takes in this thread. Wizards clearly won the trade. Wall is a shell of his former self, and his jumper is still average. Westbrook has turned himself into a positive asset. The problem is the Wizards lack 3-point shooting so we can't give Russ the spacing he needs.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#624 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 15, 2021 8:50 am

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Hard not so see how we didnt/dont win this trade in a landslide.


I don't see how giving up a draft pick for a 32 year old statpadder is a win for the Wizards. But hey, I guess whatever can be perceived as a win for Wizards fans is good enough for certain members of the fanbase.


I’m curious. Do you still feel the same way about Westbrook?
I think they should Trade Beal

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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#625 » by 9 and 20 » Sat May 15, 2021 10:21 am

Russel Westbrook has finally surpassed Michael "the next Michael Irvin" Westbrook for most-loved DC athlete.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#626 » by WallToWall » Sat May 15, 2021 1:06 pm

This was a good sell high-ish, buy low-ish trade, and the Wizards clearly won. Westbrook, if he played like he has the last 20 games, was worth more than 1 first round pick. If we were to figure his trade value now, I'd say at least 2 firsts. I don't think HOU can say they are getting their money's worth out of Wall, but we can say we are getting money's worth out of Westbrook. That said, i am a Wall fan and I want to see him succeed, even end his career back here.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#627 » by nate33 » Sat May 15, 2021 1:25 pm

WallToWall wrote:This was a good sell high-ish, buy low-ish trade, and the Wizards clearly won. Westbrook, if he played like he has the last 20 games, was worth more than 1 first round pick. If we were to figure his trade value now, I'd say at least 2 firsts. I don't think HOU can say they are getting their money's worth out of Wall, but we can say we are getting money's worth out of Westbrook. That said, i am a Wall fan and I want to see him succeed, even end his career back here.

If we had waited for the first 10 or so games of the season before making the trade, we probably could have made it straight up. They just had to show that John Wall was healthy. So in that respect, it wasn't a perfect "sell high" trade.

We still won the trade, but could have won it by more.

It's too bad that nearly all the contenders have already traded away their future picks. Now would be an excellent time to sell high on both Westbrook and Beal. But there aren't any buyers with good assets.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#628 » by pcbothwel » Sat May 15, 2021 1:27 pm

Over the last 45 games, Russ is averaging 24 / 12.5 / 13 with a ORtg/DRtg of 108 / 108 and an almost 3:1 AST:TOV ratio....
In that span, he has been better at 32 than at ANY 1 year of Walls Career outside maybe 16/17. That is incredible.

I dont know what this core will attain in the next 2 post seasons... but we are watching enjoyable basketball and if a few stars align (Good coach, Healthy/improved Bryant, improved Rui/Deni, healthy Russ/Beal, etc.) Then we might be in store for 50 win season and home court in the playoffs next year given our talent base and Russ's relentlessness during the regular season.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#629 » by TGW » Yesterday 6:20 pm

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Hard not so see how we didnt/dont win this trade in a landslide.


I don't see how giving up a draft pick for a 32 year old statpadder is a win for the Wizards. But hey, I guess whatever can be perceived as a win for Wizards fans is good enough for certain members of the fanbase.


I’m curious. Do you still feel the same way about Westbrook?


Of course. Nothing has changed. The team's culture is still based on feelings and emotions and not actual meaningful wins. They've beaten up on teams that were either missing their best player or flat out tanking, which is why they've been able to go from the fifth worst team to about the 12th worst team in the NBA. A few weeks ago, we were debating who we were taking with a top 5 pick.

I imagine that they're going to maybe make the playoffs after the play-in games, and then get swept out (or maybe win one game) of the playoffs. At that point you're left with a middling first round pick, a strong possibility Brooks is extended, and another year of Westbrook's contract on the books. It's not hard to see that the Wizards are going to be losers for the next few years if they continue down this path.
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Re: Woj - Westbrook for Wall and 1st Rounder 

Post#630 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Yesterday 6:43 pm

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I don't see how giving up a draft pick for a 32 year old statpadder is a win for the Wizards. But hey, I guess whatever can be perceived as a win for Wizards fans is good enough for certain members of the fanbase.


I’m curious. Do you still feel the same way about Westbrook?


Of course. Nothing has changed. The team's culture is still based on feelings and emotions and not actual meaningful wins. They've beaten up on teams that were either missing their best player or flat out tanking, which is why they've been able to go from the fifth worst team to about the 12th worst team in the NBA. A few weeks ago, we were debating who we were taking with a top 5 pick.

I imagine that they're going to maybe make the playoffs after the play-in games, and then get swept out (or maybe win one game) of the playoffs. At that point you're left with a middling first round pick, a strong possibility Brooks is extended, and another year of Westbrook's contract on the books. It's not hard to see that the Wizards are going to be losers for the next few years if they continue down this path.


I do not think they’re going to make the playoffs. I think they are going to lose the next two games including this one again Charlotte.
I think they should Trade Beal

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