Why isn't Troy Brown Jr. playing?

[Catchall]

What's the story with Troy Brown? He was a mid 1st-rd pick and showed flashes in his first two seasons. Why is he out of your normal rotation?

[NatP4]

To sum it up:

1. Scott Brooks is an awful coach and is completely zeroed in on winning now, not player development. Favors veteran players over younger players.

2. Brown Jr has been pretty awful whenever he has gotten a chance to play this year.

[FAH1223]

What's the story with Troy Brown? He was a mid 1st-rd pick and showed flashes in his first two seasons. Why is he out of your normal rotation?

To sum it up:

1. Scott Brooks is an awful coach and is completely zeroed in on winning now, not player development. Favors veteran players over younger players.

2. Brown Jr has been pretty awful whenever he has gotten a chance to play this year.

Scott Brooks also hates playing guys who are PGs who are tall.

Troy is a PG at heart...a point forward. But Brooks loves to play midgets like Neto or Ish Smith off the bench instead.

[Catchall]

What's the story with Troy Brown? He was a mid 1st-rd pick and showed flashes in his first two seasons. Why is he out of your normal rotation?

To sum it up:

1. Scott Brooks is an awful coach and is completely zeroed in on winning now, not player development. Favors veteran players over younger players.

2. Brown Jr has been pretty awful whenever he has gotten a chance to play this year.

Scott Brooks also hates playing guys who are PGs who are tall.

Troy is a PG at heart...a point forward. But Brooks loves to play midgets like Neto or Ish Smith off the bench instead.

And you can't play him on the wing? The Jazz love wing-sized players who are secondary initiators.

[Frichuela]

What's the story with Troy Brown? He was a mid 1st-rd pick and showed flashes in his first two seasons. Why is he out of your normal rotation?

To sum it up:

1. Scott Brooks is an awful coach and is completely zeroed in on winning now, not player development. Favors veteran players over younger players.

2. Brown Jr has been pretty awful whenever he has gotten a chance to play this year.

Scott Brooks also hates playing guys who are PGs who are tall.

Troy is a PG at heart...a point forward. But Brooks loves to play midgets like Neto or Ish Smith off the bench instead.

And you can't play him on the wing? The Jazz love wing-sized players who are secondary initiators.

How about Troy Brown for Azubuike + GS 2021 2nd?

[Catchall]

Scott Brooks also hates playing guys who are PGs who are tall.

Troy is a PG at heart...a point forward. But Brooks loves to play midgets like Neto or Ish Smith off the bench instead.

And you can't play him on the wing? The Jazz love wing-sized players who are secondary initiators.

How about Troy Brown for Azubuike + GS 2021 2nd?

I would probably do that.

[nate33]

Troy Brown is an on-ball player. He is a good decision maker, can slash pretty effectively, and can even handle PG duties. But Brooks runs all offensive sets exclusively through Westbrook, Beal and Neto. The forwards and centers do nothing but set picks, catch-and-shoot, and occasionally post up a mismatch. Brooks has pigeon-holed Brown into being a 3&D catch-and-shoot forward and he is struggling with the role because he is only a so-so 3-point shooter and he's not a good enough defender to offset his lackluster shooting.

Brown would be really good in an egalitarian read-and-react system like what Utah, San Antonio, Miami and Toronto run. But he just isn't a good fit in a "superstars and role players" system.

We are having the same problem with Deni Avdija. It would be nice if our coach tried to tailor his system to fit the talents of his players, but instead, he wants players to fit his system.

[Eli Babak]

He was seen as a potential 3&D-guy in his rookie year, then last year he was a combo guard and early this season he was in 3 PG-lineups playing small ball-4. Just freaking awful coaching. I think he has potential to be a solid role player in this league but right now his development process has been a mess.

[FAH1223]

What's the story with Troy Brown? He was a mid 1st-rd pick and showed flashes in his first two seasons. Why is he out of your normal rotation?

To sum it up:

1. Scott Brooks is an awful coach and is completely zeroed in on winning now, not player development. Favors veteran players over younger players.

2. Brown Jr has been pretty awful whenever he has gotten a chance to play this year.

Scott Brooks also hates playing guys who are PGs who are tall.

Troy is a PG at heart...a point forward. But Brooks loves to play midgets like Neto or Ish Smith off the bench instead.

And you can't play him on the wing? The Jazz love wing-sized players who are secondary initiators.

That would require a coach with a system

[NatP4]

I seriously doubt that Brown would struggle playing off the ball as a 3&D wing in Utah. He’s a good player, his shot is pretty solid actually. He’s smart, has the tools to be a good defender, rebounds and gets steals.

Brooks is the worst coach in the NBA. We have no system or ball movement. He minimizes every player on the roster. Brown is just another victim.

[dckingsfan]

I seriously doubt that Brown would struggle playing off the ball as a 3&D wing in Utah. He’s a good player, his shot is pretty solid actually. He’s smart, has the tools to be a good defender, rebounds and gets steals.

Brooks is the worst coach in the NBA. We have no system or ball movement. He minimizes every player on the roster. Brown is just another victim.

Let's not exaggerate, there has to be another coach that is worse. Right?

[Catchall]

I seriously doubt that Brown would struggle playing off the ball as a 3&D wing in Utah. He’s a good player, his shot is pretty solid actually. He’s smart, has the tools to be a good defender, rebounds and gets steals.

Brooks is the worst coach in the NBA. We have no system or ball movement. He minimizes every player on the roster. Brown is just another victim.

Let's not exaggerate, there has to be another coach that is worse. Right?

There's Luke Walton.

[doclinkin]

Like many players who were role-playing bench players in their past, Coach Brooks fetishizes star talent. In his own history, work ethic only took you so far. He likes undersized feisty guards, but his offensive mind is limited to: get the ball to the star then get out the way and play your own role.

That mindset will only take you so far. In the play-offs, high usage stars can be gameplanned and shut down. Good coaches realize that. Brooks hit a ceiling everywhere he went, no matter the multiple MVP candidates on his team, because he never figured out how to find synergy between the Big Name players and his sub-superstar bench. Even Phil Jackson ran the triangle set, and got minutes for his bench players throughout the season. Brooks only knows: give the ball to Westbrook let him initiate.

Young players need reps, confidence, touches, direction. Westbrook tends to take all the air in the room. He's a good guy but has never figured out how to play in a way that made players better around him. He gets assists selfishly, if that makes any sense. he will rarely get the hockey assist, he will jump and try to find the guy who is open. By that time he has held the ball long enough that there is no point making a skip pass to another guy. You either hit the shot or you missed your chance. In addition, by now Westbrook is in the paint ready to hoover rebounds. So there is no room for players to drop backdoor or to dribble drive to attack the interior. The defense has collapsed around Russ, or they stayed with their man, but Russ's guy and the Bigs are in there. Russ' jump shot is not enough of a threat that teams chase him to the outside and open up the floor for his attack.

A guy like Troy is good at playing the spaces between players, and using timing and angles to attack, but his athleticism isn't strong enough that he can finish in traffic. His handle is alright but not good enough to break down most guys off the dribble. He rebounds well, defends intelligently, makes smart passes. He is just a terrible fit next to Russ. As, frankly, are most players. To play to Russ's strengths you need to a) hit the long ball, b) run fast in both directions c) rebound like a madman on the offensive boards off his long two point jumpers, d) finish in traffic down low.

If Russ could play off the ball, making cuts and running players though screens, he would open things up. But Russ without the ball in his hands is a liability. He doesn't really have a game unless he is The Man.

[Kanyewest]

Ultimately Brooks has leaned on playing win now lineup with shorter rotations that limits minutes of Brown and Bonga. Brown has been outplayed by Deni and Garrison Matthew. Neto has also taken advantage of the opportunity as a backup point, plus Brooks tends to favor smaller point guards off the bench. The Wizards also haven't resorted to as many small lineups with the bench which leaves even fewer minutes. Even when Bertans was struggling Brown was not going to get playing time over him and now Bonga appears to be ahead in the rotation.

Brown has been getting good looks from 3 point range but he simply hasn't knocked them down. He may be part of the video game crew that isn't watching film https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/scott-brooks-wants-wizards-players-play-less-video-games-watch-more-film. He also isn't great at finishing at the rim over contact nor does he get to the free throw line that much. Perhaps Brown didn't come into the season in shape or simply is one of those players that doesn't play well with Russell Westbrook.

[Ruzious]

He's only tried 46 3's all season - it's just not enough of a sample size to decide he can't do it. The Wiz gave up on him way too soon after a poor start. Now- because of the compressed schedule - he'll probably get more playing time. Ironically, it's the compressed schedule forcing the coach to make the right decision - against his own worse judgment.

[Dolevi]

Troy Brown is an on-ball player. He is a good decision maker, can slash pretty effectively, and can even handle PG duties. But Brooks runs all offensive sets exclusively through Westbrook, Beal and Neto. The forwards and centers do nothing but set picks, catch-and-shoot, and occasionally post up a mismatch. Brooks has pigeon-holed Brown into being a 3&D catch-and-shoot forward and he is struggling with the role because he is only a so-so 3-point shooter and he's not a good enough defender to offset his lackluster shooting.

Brown would be really good in an egalitarian read-and-react system like what Utah, San Antonio, Miami and Toronto run. But he just isn't a good fit in a "superstars and role players" system.

We are having the same problem with Deni Avdija. It would be nice if our coach tried to tailor his system to fit the talents of his players, but instead, he wants players to fit his system.

So should some of us hope and believe Brooks will leave in the next season and things start to look better? is there a chance? I really afraid for these players's future under him. What are the odds?

[NatP4]

Brooks is gone after this year. No doubt about it.

The ONLY question is whether or not they fire him earlier than that.

[doclinkin]

Brooks is gone after this year. No doubt about it.

The ONLY question is whether or not they fire him earlier than that.

Doubt it. They will let his contract expire, try to hire Masai, and allow the new guy to bring in his own coach. The players haven't complained about Brooks. He has good rapport with Westbrook and Beal. No point ditching a guy midseason for no additional benefit. He will play out his string unless there is a players revolt in some way. But they recruited good character guys, they won't b1tch about the coach publicly.

[nate33]

Like many players who were role-playing bench players in their past, Coach Brooks fetishizes star talent. In his own history, work ethic only took you so far. He likes undersized feisty guards, but his offensive mind is limited to: get the ball to the star then get out the way and play your own role.

That mindset will only take you so far. In the play-offs, high usage stars can be gameplanned and shut down. Good coaches realize that. Brooks hit a ceiling everywhere he went, no matter the multiple MVP candidates on his team, because he never figured out how to find synergy between the Big Name players and his sub-superstar bench. Even Phil Jackson ran the triangle set, and got minutes for his bench players throughout the season. Brooks only knows: give the ball to Westbrook let him initiate.

This is a perfect summary.

[dckingsfan]

I seriously doubt that Brown would struggle playing off the ball as a 3&D wing in Utah. He’s a good player, his shot is pretty solid actually. He’s smart, has the tools to be a good defender, rebounds and gets steals.

Brooks is the worst coach in the NBA. We have no system or ball movement. He minimizes every player on the roster. Brown is just another victim.

Let's not exaggerate, there has to be another coach that is worse. Right?

There's Luke Walton.

Ouch - my two teams, the Wizard's and Kings...