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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#241 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:44 pm

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I’m trying to remember who he looks like....some dude that played for the clippers like 10 years ago. Was a wing player that was a good shooter.

Matt Barnes?



Figured it out. Ryan Gomes.


Gomes was drafted within one pick of Andray Blatche...I always associate the two with one another.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#242 » by payitforward » Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:44 pm

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queridiculo wrote:Gafford being under team control for two more season after this one is a real boon.

Agreed and on a very cheap contract! plus the RFA option at the end :nod:

Yup! It's the key to the value of this trade.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#243 » by Ruzious » Fri Apr 2, 2021 1:20 pm

Turns out Chandler isn't a sure-fire HOFer afterall. As with many young players, it probably comes down to him being a reliable 3 point shooter, and he's not so young - so the odds are probably against him, but the Wiz are in a position where they can give him every opportunity - kinda like what they should have done with TBJ. But hey, getting Gafford in the deal helps even things out for the Wiz.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#244 » by dckingsfan » Fri Apr 2, 2021 10:37 pm

Ruzious wrote:Turns out Chandler isn't a sure-fire HOFer afterall. As with many young players, it probably comes down to him being a reliable 3 point shooter, and he's not so young - so the odds are probably against him, but the Wiz are in a position where they can give him every opportunity - kinda like what they should have done with TBJ. But hey, getting Gafford in the deal helps even things out for the Wiz.

Chandler is getting a chance to play here and TBJ is playing 15min/pg in Chicago... worked out well for both players.

Gafford seems to fit really well with who we have - so good for him as well.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#247 » by Frichuela » Sun Apr 4, 2021 11:38 pm

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I believe him. Another example of Brooks horror show..
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#248 » by payitforward » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:08 pm

Been meaning to copy this in from the Athletic -- I'll highlight key points:
Wizards and Bulls make a trade
The Wizards are trading third-year wing Troy Brown and former Michigan star Mo Wagner to the Bulls for second-year big Daniel Gafford and seldom-used wing Chandler Hutchison, sources have confirmed to The Athletic. The deal was first reported by ESPN. The Wizards were excited about Brown when they drafted him No. 15 overall in 2018, and were thrilled with his progress last season (10.4 ppg in 69 games, 22 starts). He’s only 21. But the acquisition of Russell Westbrook really made Brown a poor fit in Washington, team sources said, and he wasn’t a great match on the second unit with Davis Bertans. The Wizards entered the week looking to trade Brown, knowing he needed a new look as much as they did.
— Joe Vardon

In a blockbuster that will send the league reeling for days, Washington traded Troy Brown and Mo Wagner to Chicago for Daniel Gafford and Chandler Hutchison.

What was that all about, you ask?

In Washington’s case, it was a need to clear a small bit of salary for next season to use their midlevel exception, acquire a real backup center, and still stay below the luxury tax. With the Wizards owing $5.2 million in 2021-22 to the little-used Brown, a trade seemed the obvious way out. Hutchison “only” makes $4 million, so they saved some money and got a player who may be more capable of operating as a smallball 4.

Brown is likely better than Hutchison, but the Wizards also get a legit backup center out of it in Gafford, who will make the league minimum the next two seasons and should adequately fill a spot that has been an open sore for Washington. By not needing to spend at center, they can focus on wings in free agency. Washington will also get a $2.16 million trade exception for Wagner.

Gafford has been made expendable in Chicago by the acquisition of Nikola Vucevic and the stellar play of veteran Thaddeus Young. Converting him into a potential two-way wing in Brown, especially since they traded Otto Porter earlier today, is a nice piece of back-end roster operating for Chicago.
— John Hollinger

For Wizards fans scratching their heads at their team abandoning yet another former first-round pick for…people, there is a small ray of light in what has been a decades-long cloud formation over the franchise.

Bradley Beal’s “Here we go!” tweet Thursday did not mean he was on his way out of town. Trading Troy Brown, Jr., and Mo Wagner to Chicago for Daniel Gafford and Chandler Hutchison will help Washington not only use its full mid-level exception next summer to add talent, but give it roster flexibility going forward.

Let’s put it this way: Washington’s next few months are crucial to the next 5-7 years of the franchise. The Wizards are determined to find a third star to pair with Beal and Russell Westbrook, one way or the other – through the draft, free agency or trades. And while there’s no guarantee they’ll be able to pull it off, the fact that they’ve positioned themselves to try means they are still all in on trying to build around Beal, rather than the teardown route Orlando took. Check back in three years to see which franchise was right.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#249 » by payitforward » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:20 pm

Worth mentioning that there are now exactly 2 players on the Washington Wizards who were with the team 16 months ago: Beal & Bryant. &, at that time, Bryant had only been with the team 10 months.

Yet Aldridge & others persist in saying that there's been no "teardown."
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Post#250 » by dckingsfan » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:35 pm

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It would be hard for Brooks to convey information to Brown that he doesn't have... other than if you were a smaller PG, I would get you time.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#251 » by DCZards » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:41 pm

I noticed you highlighted the first part of this section but not the end. So I’m doing it here.

Wizards fans scratching their heads at their team abandoning yet another former first-round pick for…people, there is a small ray of light in what has been a decades-long cloud formation over the franchise.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#252 » by NatP4 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:46 pm

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It would be hard for Brooks to convey information to Brown that he doesn't have... other than if you were a smaller PG, I would get you time.


Need more scrappiness.
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Post#253 » by Ruzious » Tue Apr 6, 2021 5:49 pm

payitforward wrote:Worth mentioning that there are now exactly 2 players on the Washington Wizards who were with the team 16 months ago: Beal & Bryant. &, at that time, Bryant had only been with the team 10 months.

Yet Aldridge & others persist in saying that there's been no "teardown."

It's all in the verbiagery. The local library in my town was schedule for a renovation by the county, but the county was forced to make budget cuts. So instead of a renovation, they changed the plans to a "refresh" - which basically meant they'll spend $10,000 instead of the million dollars they had previously budgeted for us.

We are then required to say "Thank you sir. May I have another."
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#254 » by Kanyewest » Tue Apr 6, 2021 7:26 pm

payitforward wrote:Worth mentioning that there are now exactly 2 players on the Washington Wizards who were with the team 16 months ago: Beal & Bryant. &, at that time, Bryant had only been with the team 10 months.

Yet Aldridge & others persist in saying that there's been no "teardown."


Here's a game on December 14th, 2019- almost 16 months ago.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201912140MEM.html

Beal, Rui, Bertans, Matthews, Bonga, Bryant, and Ish Smith are still on the team. You get Beal/Bryant if you go before June 2019, when drafted Rui which is 1 year, 9 months, 17 days
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#255 » by montestewart » Tue Apr 6, 2021 8:54 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
payitforward wrote:Worth mentioning that there are now exactly 2 players on the Washington Wizards who were with the team 16 months ago: Beal & Bryant. &, at that time, Bryant had only been with the team 10 months.

Yet Aldridge & others persist in saying that there's been no "teardown."


Here's a game on December 14th, 2019- almost 16 months ago.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201912140MEM.html

Beal, Rui, Bertans, Matthews, Bonga, Bryant, and Ish Smith are still on the team. You get Beal/Bryant if you go before June 2019, when drafted Rui which is 1 year, 9 months, 17 days

See Ruzious' post above. It's all in the verbiagery.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#256 » by Evil_Headband » Thu Apr 8, 2021 10:29 am

Is Hutchison out of the rotation or is there more to the story?
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Post#257 » by Shoe » Thu Apr 8, 2021 12:26 pm

Evil_Headband wrote:Is Hutchison out of the rotation or is there more to the story?


Since the Pacers game he's 3/22 from the field. He's not that good but also Bertans and Ish are back from injury.
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Re: Wizards trade Brown and Wagner for Gafford and Hutchinson 

Post#259 » by Jimmy Recard » Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:44 am

Nice game from Troy

15 pts, 6/7 FG, 7 rbs, 2 ast, 1 stl, in 21 minutes
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Post#260 » by Ruzious » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:39 am

Jimmy Recard wrote:Nice game from Troy

15 pts, 6/7 FG, 7 rbs, 2 ast, 1 stl, in 21 minutes

Yup - and made all 3 of his 3's.
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