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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:34 pm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:09 pm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:45 pm
by dobrojim
One has to believe that she is a careful wordsmith when she says they
should be careful about perception as opposed to careful about the reality
of what they do. As long as people don't realize or understand, it's all good.

Bonscott, you're funny. I bet you think you got all those 'facts' from
only the most reliable of sources. Please share what those sources
are so we can be wise as you are.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:56 pm
by Pointgod
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She said at the McConnell Centre named after the most piece of **** partisan **** in history

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:00 pm
by Ruzious
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She said at the McConnell Centre named after the most piece of **** partisan **** in history

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Notice she's only concerned about the perception of the Supremes; she's perfectly happy that they have - in reality - become politicized. Being concerned more with perception than reality... might be a problem.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:14 pm
by pancakes3
This has been a game that Roberts has been playing since 2005. Thomas and Alito don't even pretend.

Kavanaugh is on the Thomas/Alito path. Looks like ACB is going to try and emulate Roberts but she's too overt for it to be convincing, and will not end well with her.

Gorsuch does seem to be an actual libertarian who drank the kool-aid too much and in sticking to principles, he occasionally broken-clocks it when the principles align with the other political party.

Roberts et al understand that the stated principles (e.g. textualism, personal liberties, religious freedoms) are just a mask to advance the political agenda. It's just a matter of how blatant you want to be about it. What Roberts has done is whittle away on case law to make his record look reasonable, but when the big ones strike, he pounces on it; it's basically a "no, but we didn't rule on x, y, z" strategy where x, y, and z are signals to future litigants about how to bring the case in a way that he would rule on it - a delayed process. Thomas/Alito vote along party lines 100% of the time. Kavanaugh is just a pawn for Roberts for plausible deniability, especially now with a 6-3 majority. Roberts can wash his hands by laundering his votes through BK.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:05 pm
by Zonkerbl
https://acasignups.net/21/09/12/simple-actuarial-analysis

Here's some more math about net number of GOP voters who will die because of COVID negligence. GOP apparently views this is a net win because tanking the economy by sabotaging COVID recovery will hurt Biden more than it hurts them.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:28 pm
by Zonkerbl
Republican efforts to sneak one by in California are probably going to fail spectacularly

https://decisiondeskhq.com/previewing-the-california-gubernatorial-recall-election/

This is an extraordinarily bad faith effort to pervert the election system to force into the CA governorship a radical right wing lunatic with less than 30% support from the electorate. Shame on them.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:49 pm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:11 am
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Now Manchin either needs to deliver 10 Republicans or GTFO.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:09 pm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:59 pm
by Zonkerbl
"After GOP unabashedly embraces authoritarianism, evil, Democrats consider pivot to perhaps kind of criticizing them"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrats-recall-strategy/2021/09/15/22115ef4-1634-11ec-a5e5-ceecb895922f_story.html

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:42 pm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:28 am
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Theater of the Absurd

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:43 pm
by Zonkerbl

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:45 pm
by dckingsfan
Zonkerbl wrote:Beto O'Rourke announces he will run for governor in Texas in 2022

https://www.axios.com/scoop-beto-plans-texas-comeback-governors-race-33a3ae1a-4c58-4e7a-9e44-26342d3128c9.html

I'll be volunteering. Not sure we have a chance with all the voter suppression - we will see.

:rockon:

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:24 am
by dobrojim
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Theater of the Absurd


By effective does she actually mean she has raised more money in inverse proportion
to actual legislation written and enacted? Very effective grifter.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:48 pm
by queridiculo
The perverse thing about GOP Covid denial is that for them votes lost due to infection related deaths are statistically insignificant.

They can put their base at risk without any fear of being held to account at the voting booths.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:33 pm
by Pointgod
Zonkerbl wrote:Beto O'Rourke announces he will run for governor in Texas in 2022

https://www.axios.com/scoop-beto-plans-texas-comeback-governors-race-33a3ae1a-4c58-4e7a-9e44-26342d3128c9.html


I wish him luck but not sure if Beto has a statewide future in Texas until it’s a blue state. I hate to say it but good luck when Republicans will just reroll the tape of Beto saying “Hell yes, I’m coming to take your guns!”. And I think for a red state like Texas, a Hispanic candidate has a better path to winning state wide as a Democrat.

Re: Political Roundtable Part XXX

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:36 pm
by Pointgod
queridiculo wrote:The perverse thing about GOP Covid denial is that for them votes lost due to infection related deaths are statistically insignificant.

They can put their base at risk without any fear of being held to account at the voting booths.


Sure, that may work in a solid red state like Mississippi but it could hurt them on the margins in states with growing base that isn’t the traditional Republicans. I.e Georgia.