Political Roundtable Part XXX

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[dobrojim]

Rudy, oh my. Primary sources being the best source of information, attached is the 33 page decision from the Supreme Court of the State of New York. While reading the entire 33 pages might be a bit cumbersome (but please go ahead if you want), I expect you can rely on the 'summary' given by Kirschner in this interview.

He (Rudy) lied about voting in PA. He lied about voting in GA. He lied about absentee voting. He lied about underage voting. He lied about convicted felons voting. And the Court is careful to say, he lied at press conferences, he lied at state legislative hearings, he lied on radio broadcasts, the courts notes as both host and guest, he lied at podcasts, TV appearances and he lied in court.

What is perhaps most remarkable is Rudy did all this in service to someone who treated him like total crap as well as stiffing him on his bills. It's ironic that this decision was released on the anniversary of Roy Cohn's disbarment. For those who don't know Roy Cohn was the disgraced assistant to Joe McCarthy who later represented the NY mob as well as Golfy McBonespurs, who incidentally thought Cohn was a great lawyer and complained to WH counsel Don McGahn for not being more like him (Cohn). I expect there will be additional sanctions later for some of the other lawyers who willfully and knowingly abused the system, like perhaps Sydney Powell.

http://www.nycourts.gov/courts/ad1/calendar/List_Word/2021/06_Jun/24/PDF/Matter%20of%20Giuliani%20(2021-00506)%20PC.pdf

For the reasons that follow, we conclude that there is uncontroverted evidence
that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts,
lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald
J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection
in 2020. These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative
that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential
election was stolen from his client. We conclude that respondent’s conduct immediately
threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law,
pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee (sometimes AGC
or Committee).

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https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/giuliani-s-law-license-being-suspended-by-new-york-court-analyzed-by-pennsylvania-attorney-general-115430469657

Here's the segment that the above quote from Kirschner originated from.

Maddow actually had a lengthier segment on which she went into a review of
the history of Roy Cohn and the Manchurian Candidate. Worth watching.

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[TGW]

Cracks me up that Biden lets Koch-backed republican Joe Manchun run his agenda. What a goofy, feckless administration.

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Each one of those would not have been believable before Trump.

[dckingsfan]

Milley doesn't seem stupid... just saying.

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[TGW]

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We will never know if Covid-19 came from a lab or directly from crossing from another species (most likely bats).

Right now, there are lots of conspiracies and hearsay but not much else.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/scicheck-the-facts-and-gaps-on-the-origin-of-the-coronavirus/

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Lol wow you’ve really fallen far to be posting Joe Rogan and two obvious bullshitters like Krystal Ball and Segaar. Damn this Biden win is really hitting you hard isn’t it.

Everything they’ve said is factually incorrect and they make a lot of logical leaps without providing any evidence. A lot of it has been debunked.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/09/covid-dr-anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-creation/4450338001/

As evidence of its claim, the article cited an investigation by Fox News commentator Steve Hilton, who claims that the coronavirus was created at the Wuhan lab with NIH grant money.

Although the NIH did fund a project at the Wuhan lab, there’s no proof that the coronavirus was bioengineered. Both the WorldNetDaily article and Hilton’s segment rely on a series of unsubstantiated allegations to spin a conspiracy theory about the virus being a lab creation.

MIT biologist Kevin Esvelt reviewed a paper that appears to have been published with financial assistance from the grant. According to Esvelt, certain techniques that the researchers used seemed to meet the definition of gain-of-function research. But he told PolitiFact that "the work reported in this specific paper definitely did NOT lead to the creation of SARS-CoV-2" because the genetic sequences of the virus studied in the paper differ from that of the new coronavirus.

And here’s a much longer website debunking your bull.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/

And Fauci has called for investigations into the Wuhan Laboratory as to not rule out anything. Again if this guy had anything to hide he wouldn’t be calling for an investigation into the origins of Covid-19.

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[TGW]

The media is a joke in this country.

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Lol wow you’ve really fallen far to be posting Joe Rogan and two obvious bullshitters like Krystal Ball and Segaar. Damn this Biden win is really hitting you hard isn’t it.

Everything they’ve said is factually incorrect and they make a lot of logical leaps without providing any evidence. A lot of it has been debunked.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/09/covid-dr-anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-creation/4450338001/

As evidence of its claim, the article cited an investigation by Fox News commentator Steve Hilton, who claims that the coronavirus was created at the Wuhan lab with NIH grant money.

Although the NIH did fund a project at the Wuhan lab, there’s no proof that the coronavirus was bioengineered. Both the WorldNetDaily article and Hilton’s segment rely on a series of unsubstantiated allegations to spin a conspiracy theory about the virus being a lab creation.

MIT biologist Kevin Esvelt reviewed a paper that appears to have been published with financial assistance from the grant. According to Esvelt, certain techniques that the researchers used seemed to meet the definition of gain-of-function research. But he told PolitiFact that "the work reported in this specific paper definitely did NOT lead to the creation of SARS-CoV-2" because the genetic sequences of the virus studied in the paper differ from that of the new coronavirus.

And here’s a much longer website debunking your bull.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/

And Fauci has called for investigations into the Wuhan Laboratory as to not rule out anything. Again if this guy had anything to hide he wouldn’t be calling for an investigation into the origins of Covid-19.

How do they save face after voting/supporting Trump? Make stuff up... and then throw it to the base to spread the disinformation.

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Lol wow you’ve really fallen far to be posting Joe Rogan and two obvious bullshitters like Krystal Ball and Segaar. Damn this Biden win is really hitting you hard isn’t it.

Everything they’ve said is factually incorrect and they make a lot of logical leaps without providing any evidence. A lot of it has been debunked.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/09/covid-dr-anthony-fauci-did-not-fund-research-tied-creation/4450338001/

As evidence of its claim, the article cited an investigation by Fox News commentator Steve Hilton, who claims that the coronavirus was created at the Wuhan lab with NIH grant money.

Although the NIH did fund a project at the Wuhan lab, there’s no proof that the coronavirus was bioengineered. Both the WorldNetDaily article and Hilton’s segment rely on a series of unsubstantiated allegations to spin a conspiracy theory about the virus being a lab creation.

MIT biologist Kevin Esvelt reviewed a paper that appears to have been published with financial assistance from the grant. According to Esvelt, certain techniques that the researchers used seemed to meet the definition of gain-of-function research. But he told PolitiFact that "the work reported in this specific paper definitely did NOT lead to the creation of SARS-CoV-2" because the genetic sequences of the virus studied in the paper differ from that of the new coronavirus.

And here’s a much longer website debunking your bull.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/

And Fauci has called for investigations into the Wuhan Laboratory as to not rule out anything. Again if this guy had anything to hide he wouldn’t be calling for an investigation into the origins of Covid-19.

How do they save face after voting/supporting Trump? Make stuff up... and then throw it to the base to spread the disinformation.

TGW is spiralling. Keep in mind the links who he posts are two you tubers who used to have a channel on The Hill which is a right wing publication. It’s not a surprise that TGW is now turning to right wing talking points to justify disliking “the evil Democrats and Liberal media”.

[dckingsfan]

Well, when the liberal media is saying the election wasn't stolen, you can understand the positions of some... just saying.

The former attorney general also said that allegations that voting machines across the country were rigged to switch votes from President Biden to Trump were not true.

“We realized from the beginning it was just bull,” Barr told Karl.

“It’s a counting machine, and they save everything that was counted. So you just reconcile the two. There had been no discrepancy reported anywhere, and I’m still not aware of any discrepancy,” he added.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/560423-bill-barr-calls-trumps-election-fraud-claims-bull-in-new-book

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/william-barrs-trump-administration-attorney-general/619298/

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[Pointgod]

We will never know if Covid-19 came from a lab or directly from crossing from another species (most likely bats).

Right now, there are lots of conspiracies and hearsay but not much else.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/scicheck-the-facts-and-gaps-on-the-origin-of-the-coronavirus/

I didn’t realize I posted the same link that you did. Yeah there’s a huge logical leap between saying:

1. Someone who worked at the Wuhan lab got covid as it was spreading throughout the local population
2. The lab was studying Covid and there was a lab leak and that’s where it originated (you can already start seeing why this theory becomes ridiculous)
3. They were experimenting with animals who were covid vectors (again borderlining on the ridiculous)
4. Covid was invented in a lab in Wuhan as a bio weapon and it somehow got unleashed on the world ( )

Of course TGW posts the most disingenuous and frankly idiotic interpretation.