2021 Draft Thread - Part II

Frichuela · Post #81 » by **Frichuela** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:15 pm

Springer is in the house!

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dckingsfan · Post #82 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:38 pm

Dark Faze wrote:It's a damn shame we can't see Giddey in the Olympics. Would be massively helpful information.

For other teams...

- I think the best chance is he falls because he is relatively unknown.

smoothSeph · Post #83 » by **smoothSeph** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:13 pm

NatP4 wrote:Doesn’t feel like they have worked out very many guys who would go as high as 15. Lots of undrafted guys and a few late 1st guys.

Probably already know who they want. I'm in the Duarte camp but us working him out makes me think he's just a back up plan.

payitforward · Post #84 » by **payitforward** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:28 pm

I'm pretty sure some of these guys are more likely to get the Head Coach job than to be drafted by us. What do you think?

Yet... I'd never heard of Micah Potter. Looked at his number. They were extremely gaudy his Junior & Senior years. I mean... really good!

I still don't want him as our coach, however.

payitforward · Post #85 » by **payitforward** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:34 pm

Asbjorn Midtgaard posted a .718 TS% for Grand Canyon -- which is, I remind you, a really big canyon.

80sballboy · Post #86 » by **80sballboy** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:01 pm

Quinton left out the most important name of them all. Zane Martin!

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NatP4 · Post #87 » by **NatP4** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:55 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm pretty sure some of these guys are more likely to get the Head Coach job than to be drafted by us. What do you think?

Yet... I'd never heard of Micah Potter. Looked at his number. They were extremely gaudy his Junior & Senior years. I mean... really good!

I still don't want him as our coach, however.

I posted about Micah Potter a few times this year, good to see that they have some interest. He might be a nice undrafted gem.

NatP4 · Post #88 » by **NatP4** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:58 pm

Dat2U wrote:
NatP4 wrote:Blow it up:

Beal to Toronto for #4&filler
#15 for #21&#32
Rui and Bryant for Derrick White
Westbrook to the clippers for #25 and filler
#25 for #35 and #40

4: Jalen Suggs
21: Jared Butler
32: Neemius Queta
35: Joe Wieskamp
40: Isaiah Livers

Suggs Butler
White Mathews
Avdija Wieskamp Livers
Bertans Gill
Gafford Queta

Congrats, that's a really really bad team.

That is not a bad team. A backcourt trip of Suggs, White, and Butler would be one of the best in the league. Gafford is one of the better Cs in the league, tons of wing depth. 7 guys on rookie deals, and tons of cap room. That team is a lot better than the roster we had last year, with tons of flexibility moving forward and room to grow.

NatP4 · Post #89 » by **NatP4** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:43 am

No chance he falls now, but Giddey is looking even better than he did in the NBL this year. Change of direction and fluid athleticism, much better and tighter handle, superb confidence, shooting the ball without hesitation. He’s going to be an absolute natural from day 1 in the NBA. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up the best player in the draft or on par with Suggs/Mobley.

Wiz should seriously be looking to trade up and secure a big piece for the future.

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Post #90 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:51 am

NatP4 wrote:No chance he falls now, but Giddey is looking even better than he did in the NBL this year. Change of direction and fluid athleticism, much better and tighter handle, superb confidence, shooting the ball without hesitation. He’s going to be an absolute natural from day 1 in the NBA. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up the best player in the draft or on par with Suggs/Mobley.

Wiz should seriously be looking to trade up and secure a big piece for the future.

Watch on YouTube

It'll be fun to watch him vs Ball - to compare and contrast them. helluva game by Australia - they look so skilled.

Dark Faze · Post #91 » by **Dark Faze** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:13 pm

I don't think he makes it to us. And we have no assets to move up. It'd have to be Avdija + 15 to maybe get in the 7-10 range, which won't happen.

I'd like to see Indiana pick him up. Would be a really nice fit.

TGW · Post #92 » by **TGW** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:54 pm

How far can we move up with Bryant? Probably like 3-4 spots.

Dat2U · Post #93 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:23 pm

TGW wrote:How far can we move up with Bryant? Probably like 3-4 spots.

Lol. Probably not. I saw this on Twitter too. Again the valuation on Bryant seems to be bit off.

Dat2U · Post #94 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:28 pm

NatP4 wrote:No chance he falls now, but Giddey is looking even better than he did in the NBL this year. Change of direction and fluid athleticism, much better and tighter handle, superb confidence, shooting the ball without hesitation. He’s going to be an absolute natural from day 1 in the NBA. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up the best player in the draft or on par with Suggs/Mobley.

Wiz should seriously be looking to trade up and secure a big piece for the future.

Watch on YouTube

Shot looks cleaner which is great! The thing I noticed is his size. He looks like a legit 6-8. I still have him at 5 or 6. He's way out of our range at this point.

queridiculo · Post #95 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:19 pm

Dat2U wrote:Shot looks cleaner which is great! The thing I noticed is his size. He looks like a legit 6-8. I still have him at 5 or 6. He's way out of our range at this point.

Does it? Looks like an ugly push shot with a low release, just a foot further back and it's going to fall apart, you can't accurately shoot from distance with that technique.

FAH1223 · Post #96 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:34 pm

Dark Faze wrote:I don't think he makes it to us. And we have no assets to move up. It'd have to be Avdija + 15 to maybe get in the 7-10 range, which won't happen.

I'd like to see Indiana pick him up. Would be a really nice fit.

Could see San Antonio going for Giddey too

But they have so many guards already. If they did take him, White or Murray would be gone... probably for wing help.

Post #97 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:01 pm

I have Giddey at 5 - just not seeing anyone else - including Kuminga - challenging him for the 5th spot. The draft is a hodgepodge from 6 through... quite a lot of picks.

Dat2U · Post #98 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:13 pm

queridiculo wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Shot looks cleaner which is great! The thing I noticed is his size. He looks like a legit 6-8. I still have him at 5 or 6. He's way out of our range at this point.

Does it? Looks like an ugly push shot with a low release, just a foot further back and it's going to fall apart, you can't accurately shoot from distance with that technique.

I'm not a shot expert but it looks quicker and smoother from some of his earlier tape. Not to say it can't get better but I see progress.

Dat2U · Post #99 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:19 pm

Cam Thomas reminds me of Juan Dixon, Gary Neal, Marcus Thornton, etc. Just an outright gunner with full on tunnel vision. He'll score and likely be a negative every else.

Gig18 · Post #100 » by **Gig18** » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:22 pm

He couldn't be Vinnie Johnson? or Bulls-era Ben Gordon?