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2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 8:07 pm
by Ruzious
NatP4 wrote:I think I’d much rather have Butler than Duarte or Springer or even Moody at 15. You can plug that guy in next to Westbrook and Beal and he would be a perfect fit.
He’s got Fred Van Fleet written all over him. Plus on defense, plus on offense, big time leader and competitor.
At 15, I think you want Wagner, Giddey, Butler, or Garuba, in that order.
I think we can trade down and get Butler around the end of the 1st round - because of the heart issue.
2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 8:08 pm
by nate33
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 8:44 pm
by NatP4
Ruzious wrote:NatP4 wrote:I think I’d much rather have Butler than Duarte or Springer or even Moody at 15. You can plug that guy in next to Westbrook and Beal and he would be a perfect fit.
He’s got Fred Van Fleet written all over him. Plus on defense, plus on offense, big time leader and competitor.
At 15, I think you want Wagner, Giddey, Butler, or Garuba, in that order.
I think we can trade down and get Butler around the end of the 1st round - because of the heart issue.
Sign me up. I see Wieskamp listed at 56 on Tankathon’s mock!! Along with Queta and Petrusev at 36&39 respectively. Tell me why we shouldn’t acquire a bunch of 2nd round picks and get all of those guys?
34&36 from OKC would be good pickups. Not sure what the exact trade down would look like, but we could easily buy a pick in the 40-60 range and grab guys like Weiscamp and Livers.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 8:50 pm
by NatP4
Right now looking at Tankathon’s mock, I would trade 15 for 21&32 from NY and pick Butler&Petrusev, and buy a couple picks in the 40-60 range and add Liver and Wieskamp.
Of course, if Wagner or Giddey drop to 15, I’m staying put
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 9:18 pm
by Frichuela
NatP4 wrote:Right now looking at Tankathon’s mock, I would trade 15 for 21&32 from NY and pick Butler&Petrusev, and buy a couple picks in the 40-60 range and add Liver and Wieskamp.
Of course, if Wagner or Giddey drop to 15, I’m staying put
Hey NatP4, I was very keen on getting Butler but his heart condition issue would worry me a lot. It's annoying because I thought his fit and potential are superb for the Wizards.
Has anyone heard anything new on his health?
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 9:21 pm
by Dat2U
NatP4 wrote:Right now looking at Tankathon’s mock, I would trade 15 for 21&32 from NY and pick Butler&Petrusev, and buy a couple picks in the 40-60 range and add Liver and Wieskamp.
Of course, if Wagner or Giddey drop to 15, I’m staying put
If Giddey or Wagner is not there then I'd go...
21. Sharife Cooper & 32 B.J. Boston.
Then try to add either Livers or Weiskamp via another pick (probably couldn't pull off both).
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 10:15 pm
by dckingsfan
Speaking of 21 - 21 days to go...
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 11:48 pm
by payitforward
Dat's first draft of draft tiers....
Dat2U wrote:Just a rough draft and always subject to change lol.
Tier One
F Cade Cunningham
C Evan Mobley
G Jalen Green
Tier Two
G Jalen Suggs
F Jonathan Kuminga
Tier Three
G Josh Giddey
F Franz Wagner
G Sharife Cooper
G Davion Mitchell
G Jaden Springer
G James Bouknight
Tier Four
G Jared Butler
F Jalen Johnson
C Isaiah Jackson
F Corey Kispert
G Ayo Dosunmu
G Keon Johnson
G Chris Duarte
F Moses Moody
C Alperen Sengun
F Kai Jones
F Scottie Barnes
F Usman Garuba
G Ayo Dosunmu
Tier Five
G Brandon Boston Jr
F Isaiah Livers
F Trey Murphy III
G Tre Mann
F Filip Petrusev
F Matthew Hurt
G Austin Reaves
G Cameron Thomas
G Quentin Grimes
F Joe Wiescamp
F Hebert Jones
G Joshua Primo
F Ziaire Williams
C Neemias Queta
C Ariel Hukporti
F Isaiah Todd
F Roko Prkacin
G Joel Ayayi
F Johnny Juzang
Tier Six
G Max Abmas
G Nah'Shon Hyland
F Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
G Miles McBride
G Josh Christopher
C Charles Bassey
F Luka Garza
G McKinley Wright IV
C Ibou Badji
F Greg Brown
F Terrence Shannon Jr
G David Duke
F Kessler Edwards
G Jason Preston
F JT Thor
F Marcus Bagley
F Trendon Watford
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Thu Jul 8, 2021 11:55 pm
by 80sballboy
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 1:27 am
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
I think Duarte or Kispert will be the pick unless someone slides down.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:02 am
by FAH1223
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I think Duarte or Kispert will be the pick unless someone slides down.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:27 am
by 80sballboy
I doubt the pick is Duarte. Tommy isn't picking a 24-year old college player at #15. Unless they think he's the next Dillon Brooks, though he weighs about 30 less pounds.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:47 am
by wall_glizzy
He's not a fit for us at all, but for the record I think Scottie Barnes is up there with almost anybody in this year's class as a prospect.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 8:17 am
by FAH1223
wall_glizzy wrote:He's not a fit for us at all, but for the record I think Scottie Barnes is up there with almost anybody in this year's class as a prospect.
He can shoot.
He can defend.
He's 6'6''
He's pro-ready.
He definitely fits. Wizards do not have enough shooting.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:08 pm
by pcbothwel
80sballboy wrote:I doubt the pick is Duarte. Tommy isn't picking a 24-year old college player at #15. Unless they think he's the next Dillon Brooks, though he weighs about 30 less pounds.
Yeah... anytime you can take an old, poor rebounding wing that cant draw fouls, has almost as many turnovers as assists, and scores with Westbrook efficiency at #15 ... you do it
Duarte will be a FAR better player that Brooks.
Dillon Brooks is the new Avery Bradley. Overrated defender due to fouling/grabbing that cant create, score, or rebound.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:08 pm
by Shoe
payitforward wrote:Dat's first draft of draft tiers....
Dat2U wrote:Just a rough draft and always subject to change lol.
Tier One
F Cade Cunningham
C Evan Mobley
G Jalen Green
Tier Two
G Jalen Suggs
F Jonathan Kuminga
Tier Three
G Josh Giddey
F Franz Wagner
G Sharife Cooper
G Davion Mitchell
G Jaden Springer
G James Bouknight
Tier Four
G Jared Butler
F Jalen Johnson
C Isaiah Jackson
F Corey Kispert
G Ayo Dosunmu
G Keon Johnson
G Chris Duarte
F Moses Moody
C Alperen Sengun
F Kai Jones
F Scottie Barnes
F Usman Garuba
G Ayo Dosunmu
Tier Five
G Brandon Boston Jr
F Isaiah Livers
F Trey Murphy III
G Tre Mann
F Filip Petrusev
F Matthew Hurt
G Austin Reaves
G Cameron Thomas
G Quentin Grimes
F Joe Wiescamp
F Hebert Jones
G Joshua Primo
F Ziaire Williams
C Neemias Queta
C Ariel Hukporti
F Isaiah Todd
F Roko Prkacin
G Joel Ayayi
F Johnny Juzang
Tier Six
G Max Abmas
G Nah'Shon Hyland
F Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
G Miles McBride
G Josh Christopher
C Charles Bassey
F Luka Garza
G McKinley Wright IV
C Ibou Badji
F Greg Brown
F Terrence Shannon Jr
G David Duke
F Kessler Edwards
G Jason Preston
F JT Thor
F Marcus Bagley
F Trendon Watford
Lol Hyland ended Juzangs draft hopes at the combine. Risky tier six there overall.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:31 pm
by NatP4
FAH1223 wrote:wall_glizzy wrote:He's not a fit for us at all, but for the record I think Scottie Barnes is up there with almost anybody in this year's class as a prospect.
He can shoot.
He can defend.
He's 6'6''
He's pro-ready.
He definitely fits. Wizards do not have enough shooting.
He’s not really a perimeter threat at all. Also, his defense is limited to defending on the perimeter. He doesn’t defend the paint or rebound all that well at all. I’ve been up and down on Barnes throughout the year, but I’m not sure what he does all that well at the next level. He’s really just a more athletic Kyle Andersen
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 2:32 pm
by NatP4
I think the pick will end up being Moody or Sengun.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:11 pm
by payitforward
pcbothwel wrote:80sballboy wrote:I doubt the pick is Duarte. Tommy isn't picking a 24-year old college player at #15. Unless they think he's the next Dillon Brooks, though he weighs about 30 less pounds.
Yeah... anytime you can take an old, poor rebounding wing that cant draw fouls, has almost as many turnovers as assists, and scores with Westbrook efficiency at #15 ... you do it
Duarte will be a FAR better player that Brooks.
Dillon Brooks is the new Avery Bradley. Overrated defender due to fouling/grabbing that cant create, score, or rebound.
I agree. Dillon Brooks is not a good player. I expect Memphis' new FO to work hard on trading him this off season. Let's hope Tommy isn't around when the phone rings that day.
OTOH, I agree that Chris Duarte looks like he'll be a really good NBA player. He's one reason I would LOVE to trade down this year.
Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II
Posted: Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:39 pm
by DCZards
Dillon Brooks is a very useful player on the defensive end---just ask Bradley Beal.
