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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, thread. 

Post#101 » by DCZards » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:07 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
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nate33 wrote:I think this is a pretty accurate take.

The one thing that provides hope is that Unseld Jr. is a mediocre coach in his first season. Like players, coaches tend to improve a bit in their first couple of seasons. Being not-awful as a rookie coach might bode pretty well going forward.

TBH, I don't see any way to judge Unseld's work as a coach given the complex personnel situation he was handed. I sure don't see any way to make a negative judgment.

Fans over-expect & over-react. The same people who loved Neto last year hate him this year. The same people who loved Trez earlier in the season call him a bully now.

The Wizards are a bad team. We were bad before the mammoth trade last off season, & then we changed our core personnel drastically in ways that didn't work out. On top of that, Brad experienced a huge drop off in his play -- & then he was injured.

None of that has anything to do with Wes Unseld, Jr. -- with coaching.

Your points notwithstanding, I do see some things I didn't like with respect to the schemas we ran and the personnel we used.

Looking at the glass half-full (and docs comments on the high post offensive schema used at the end of the season), I do see hope that he will improve as a coach (since this is his thread) on the offensive side of the ball. I didn't see the defensive adjustments or his ability to get the team to play hard on that side of the court as the season progressed.

But to your point, substantial injuries or personnel bickering can derail any season. It is just very difficult to discern where one leaves off and another starts. I do think that a more senior coach could have handled the situation better - or not.

Being a head coach is very different from being an assistant coach and it makes perfect sense that a "more senior coach" would have probably avoided some of the mistakes and missteps made by Unseld Jr.

But I'm glad that the Zards hired Unseld Jr. to be their head coach. After 16 years as an assistant coach, I believe he had earned the opportunity.

I'm certain Wes Jr. would be quick to admit that his first season as a head coach was a learning and growing experience for him.

Greg Popovich was 17-47 in his first year as head coach of the Spurs. I don't doubt that there were plenty of questions raised about his decision making and leadership that season.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, thread. 

Post#102 » by wco81 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:03 pm

Isn't the bigger question for the Wizards whether to max Beal?

Well I guess they have no choice other than to lose that asset.

But Beal isn't likely to take the team into the playoffs.
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Post#103 » by badinage » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:13 pm

Will Tommy Shepp go after his friend Jay Wright — now on the market, after bailing on Nova — to be the new coach? Hmm …
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, thread. 

Post#104 » by trast66 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:59 am

badinage wrote:Will Tommy Shepp go after his friend Jay Wright — now on the market, after bailing on Nova — to be the new coach? Hmm …


Wright would be Tommy’s boss, making many multiples of his salary.
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Post#105 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:22 am

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WASHINGTON — The Washington Wizards’ practice gym surged to life at 8:44 on a recent weekday morning. The Kodak Black song “I Wish” roared through the loudspeaker, the soulful lyrics and steady beat echoing off the walls and the courts. Young players completed their stretching, rose to their feet and assembled near baskets, no more than two players per hoop.

In one corner of the gym, centers Vernon Carey Jr. and Jaime Echenique rarely stopped moving over the next hour. Player development manager Mike Batiste and assistant coaches Joseph Blair, Pat Delany and Mike Miller put the two big men through an arduous, structured workout, with the players alternating on the court. In drill after drill after drill, with the coaches often clapping and yelling encouragement, Carey and Echenique honed specific skills such as step-throughs, baby hooks and sharp rolls to the hoop. Within 20 minutes, sweat drenched the youngsters’ red workout shirts.

Forty minutes into the workout, Delany dribbled the basketball at the top of the 3-point arc, and Carey, going full speed, simulated setting a screen, rolled to the hoop and received a bounce pass from the coach. Carey caught the ball, elevated off his left foot and threw down a thunderous left-handed dunk over Batiste that would have brought fans to their feet. Blair, in his deep bass voice, bellowed: “On his head! On his head!”

At 9:45 a.m., the coaches concluded the workout, and Carey and Echenique, both spent, trudged off the court, hands on hips.

“It’s taxing, but it’s going to help you in the long run,” Carey said, perspiration dripping off his forehead and chin. “Pain doesn’t last forever. It’s gonna be a little painful for a little bit, but it won’t last.”

The centers’ grueling workout offered a window into the Wizards’ player development program under head coach Wes Unseld Jr., who arrived in Washington last July after six seasons as an assistant coach with the Denver Nuggets, a team well respected for developing young players such as second-round pick-turned-MVP Nikola Jokić and point guard Jamal Murray. This offseason, Unseld and his assistant coaches are getting their first opportunity to work with Wizards players over an entire summer.

For players young and old alike, offseasons provide priceless opportunities to eliminate weaknesses, solidify strengths and set a tone for the season to come. For inexperienced prospects, such as 21-year-old Carey and 20-year-old forward Isaiah Todd, the spring and summer months offer chances for one-on-one coaching and time to hone their physiques. For youngsters who already have established themselves as rotation players — like Deni Avdija, Daniel Gafford, Rui Hachimura and Corey Kispert — this is the time to do the unglamorous work that will earn them more minutes.

Consistent incremental gains can pay big dividends down the road. Drafting well, making smart trades and identifying smart free-agent signings of course are essential to building a winner, but a franchise also needs to improve the players it already has and make them the best possible versions of themselves. Teams such as the Miami Heat and the San Antonio Spurs are renowned for developing their players and for bringing the best out of players the rest of the league undervalues. Elevate players’ skills, and a team not only will win more games, but it also will raise its players’ values, which is an essential part of roster-building.

“Every player can improve,” said Tommy Sheppard, Wizards president and general manager. “Every skill set has areas of improvement. Every skill set can be grown and continue to be sharpened every summer. We talk about (how) you find out in the winter what you did in the summer. You want to bring back a new aspect to your game or a new-and-improved area.”

The younger a player is, the more room he has to improve, which largely explains why players typically make their biggest jumps between their rookie and second seasons, their second and third seasons and their third and fourth seasons.

This is the first full NBA offseason for Kispert and Todd, who were rookies in 2021-22. But it’s also the first full, uninterrupted offseason for Avdija, who spent last summer recovering from a right-ankle fracture he suffered as a rookie. And considering how the pandemic disrupted and shortened the 2020 and ’21 offseasons, this also is the first full “regular” offseason for Carey, Todd, Gafford and Hachimura.

“I have a lot of stuff to work on, and I know what I need to do better,” Avdija said, adding he needs to take “the next step” in several areas of his game, including his dribbling with his left hand and improving his outside shooting.

Under Unseld, the Wizards keep a player development book with detailed action plans for each player, updating the entries in the preseason, at midseason and the end of the regular season. Unseld said the book is “ever-evolving,” with the team’s coaches and staff constantly measuring progress (or lack thereof) and making any necessary adjustments.

This offseason, Unseld, his coaches, the front office and the medical staff have created personalized plans for each player, which is something other teams do, too. Wizards coaches and support staffers check in at least once a week with players who spend their offseasons away from Washington and regularly visit them to evaluate their progress. Even Kristaps Porziņģis, a veteran who spends most of his offseason in Europe, will receive at least one visit overseas and also is in regular contact with team officials.

“As we map things out in the summer, how do we think a guy can play for us?” Unseld said. “What are his strengths? What are his weaknesses? What do we need to do to get him up to speed so we can plug him in and he can play? Then you get to midseason, and you look at it, and you’re like, well, where is he as far as that first stretch of games? What are the things that we did or didn’t do to help him get to where he should be? If he’s where he should be, can we add more to his plate?”

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Second-year Wizards forward Isaiah Todd prepares to shoot during an offseason workout at the team’s practice facility. (Courtesy of the Washington Wizards)

No two players in Unseld’s system follow the same path. For instance, Unseld said he initially did not expect Kispert to play significant minutes as a rookie, but when injuries and a COVID-19 outbreak hit the team, Kispert took advantage of his opportunities. He made consistent strides throughout the season, wound up starting 36 games and improved his field-goal and 3-point shooting percentages in the season’s final months.

Avdija and Hachimura made progress last season, too. Avdija appeared in all 82 regular-season games, a testament to his work and the medical staff’s work during the summer of 2021. Hachimura missed the opening months of the season as he dealt with a personal issue, but he dramatically raised his 3-point accuracy from 32.8 percent in 2020-21 to 44.7 percent in 2021-22.

Meanwhile, Todd spent almost the entire 2021-22 season playing for the Wizards’ G League affiliate, the Capital City Go-Go. Picked 16 spots after Kispert in the 2021 NBA Draft, Todd did not attend college and spent his year after high school playing for the G League Ignite. Because he was inexperienced and only 20 last season, team officials felt a patient but steady, long-term approach would be the best way to develop the lanky youngster.

“He fits a lot of archetypes of the type of player that’s very successful in the NBA,” Sheppard said. “If you want to call him a 3-and-D (player), he has the potential to do those things. But it wasn’t going to happen if we threw him out on an NBA court. You can lose a ton of confidence your first year if you’re not ready to go out there.”

“Sometimes it’s going to take some time, and you have to be patient,” Sheppard added. “But you have to stick with the plan. You can always adjust as you go. But you can’t just bail on somebody if they had a tough week or a tough game or a tough month. Those players, they’ve got to develop, and the only way to do that is to go out and play.”

Todd, who is 6 foot 10, has been a regular at the Wizards’ practice facility this offseason. On the same morning Carey and Echenique were working out, Todd was on an adjacent court working with assistant coach Zach Guthrie and two additional staff members.

Todd said team officials want him to work on everything, with a special emphasis on rebounding, defending and learning how to be a pro. He has been motivated in part by a conversation he had a few months ago with a Wizards veteran. That veteran, whom Todd declined to name, said he made his biggest gains during the offseasons when he was 20 and 21, the formative age range Todd is in now. It’s no surprise, then, that Todd is on the court and in the weight room every workday.

“Every day when I come in, it’s specified for me and my development, the things that they want from me on the court and the things that are going to propel me forward in the league,” Todd said. “Like perfecting my shot, we’re talking about the details, not just getting up reps. The reps that I’m getting up are high-quality, high-detail reps. Everybody in here is so supportive.

“Sometimes I come in early in the morning, at 7 or 8 o’clock, and there are six coaches here with me, and just me, on the court working on things. They watch hours of film before they even come to me, and they’re telling me the things that can help me propel in the league and get some time on the court.”

Todd, along with new first-round pick Johnny Davis, is expected to be a central component of the Wizards’ team at the upcoming NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. To prepare, Todd and others, including Carey and members of the Go-Go, have played pickup games at the practice facility to apply their individual skill work to game situations.

“They’re showing they want to invest in their development,” Unseld said. “It’s not us going to grab their hand and forcing them to be in the gym and put in the time and put in the work. Their willingness, that’s step one. They’re eager. They understand what’s at stake. They understand the opportunity that this presents and the resources that they have at their fingertips.”

It helps that the coaches and staff members attempt to make the work fun. That explains the music that blares on the gym’s speaker system during skill workouts. During their recent session, Batiste, Blair, Delany and Miller — who combined have 18 seasons of NBA assistant-coaching experience, plus additional experience coaching G League teams — closely monitored Carey’s and Echenique’s every move, and the coaches clapped and smiled throughout the hour-long session. As Unseld often says, there should be excitement and joy about going to work, not just for the players but for the coaches, too.

At 9:42 a.m., on the last rep of the morning, Carey, fatigued, finished a roll to the hoop with a soft layup and missed the shot.

Blair turned to Carey and said, “Is that how you want to finish?”

Carey picked up the ball and slammed it with a reverse dunk.

A few minutes later, still breathing heavily, Carey said, “For every job, you’ve got to put in the work or you’ve got to study. You’ve got to do the extra things.”

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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, thread. 

Post#106 » by queridiculo » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:05 am

It's puff piece season.
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Post#107 » by pcbothwel » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:57 pm

lolol... yeah, new found work ethic on the court or weight room is classic in July...Though its good to hear that Todd is not only working hard but appears to have gained some perspective about the importance of putting in the work now vs 3-4 years from now.
He doesn't have the natural physicality and BBIQ (Vision/awareness) to succeed if he doesnt work hard at it (Similar to Rui). But he can carve out a decade+ in this league if puts in effort on defense, hits 3's, and exposes mismatches. We'll see.
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Post#108 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:26 pm

queridiculo wrote:It's puff piece season.


Robbins is a good writer though!
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Post#110 » by FAH1223 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:38 pm

I think Wes has done a much better job in the month of November post-BKN massacre.
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Post#111 » by Kanyewest » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:01 pm

FAH1223 wrote:I think Wes has done a much better job in the month of November post-BKN massacre.


Yeah, some of these would have been losses under Scott Brooks.
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Re: Coach Wes Unseld Jr, thread. 

Post#112 » by FAH1223 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:08 pm

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FAH1223 wrote:I think Wes has done a much better job in the month of November post-BKN massacre.


Yeah, some of these would have been losses under Scott Brooks.


The SGA 3-pointer to win it last week was the main blemish here. I hope he goes all out in future with BIG lineups to guard the 3 if we're up 2 at end of game.

No more DeRozan, Kevin Porter Jr. and SGA GWs unless we got a 6'6'' or above guy guarding. If they make it, tip your hat.

But having a 6'1'' guarding is just... idiocy!
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Post#113 » by nate33 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:12 pm

So far, the word I'd used to describe Wes so far is, "competent". I don't know if he is a good coach yet, but I don't think he is a bad coach either.

I'm definitely impressed with their 7th place ranking in DRtg. Some of that is due to the schedule, and some of that is due to Porzingis, but Wes is still getting it done with mostly unheralded defenders. Part of it is that Wes, unlike Brooks, doesn't reflexively go to small ball whenever things are going poorly. Brooks always felt that if things go wrong, the solution was to score more, so he would exchange defensive size for offensive skill. Wes appears to have a different philosophy. If things get tight, he wants to see better defense. It's why he lets Goodwin play over Morris in crunch time, for example. It's why he continues to play Deni even though the offensive stats are fairly disappointing.

Another stat that reinforces this point is defensive rebounding. The Wizards rank 6th best in the league on the defensive glass. Tall people can rebound.
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Post#114 » by wco81 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:22 pm

Didn't the Wizards get off to a good start last year too?

I guess the question is whether they can sustain it past the All Star Break.
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Post#115 » by closg00 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:09 am

Just wondering why KP launches so-many 3's and why WUJ rarely uses KP as a low-post player against smaller line-ups :gossip:
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Post#116 » by AFM » Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:53 pm

Are we a top 5 defense with Delon back?
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Post#117 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:09 pm

AFM wrote:Are we a top 5 defense with Delon back?

If we had him the whole time while playing the easy schedule of craptastic teams we have faced so far, yes.

But going forward, we will be playing better teams. I very much doubt we will finish in the top 10 defensively. I'd be thrilled if we crack the top 15.
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Post#118 » by nate33 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:15 am

It's looking like Wes might be in over his head. The team has lost 10 of 11. Yes, they're shorthanded and not that talented, but even bad teams win occasionally due to shooting variance.
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Post#119 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:43 am

nate33 wrote:It's looking like Wes might be in over head head. The team has lost 10 of 11. Yes, they're shorthanded and not that talented, but even bad teams win occasionally due to shooting variance.


Mom a pop organization hired son.

Son is not a good coach.
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Post#120 » by GoneShammGone » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:57 pm

Yeah, realistically, when is the soonest that we can expect the axe to fall? With promising starts, followed by epic meltdowns two years in a row, and regression from young players Rui and Deni, I think any objective observer has got to conclude that Wes simply is not good enough. But to fire him would mean that Ted would have to swallow his ego and accept criticism of the original choice. So when do you think enough will be enough?

I hate to say it, but I actually don't think Wes will be fired at all. I think he is the coach starting next season, as awful as that sounds. Anybody else more optimistic?

(Btw, I really like Wes as a person---I'm not a hater. He seems like a great guy, but I just don't see evidence that he can really be an effective head coach...)

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