ruffian253 wrote:payitforward wrote:This is really a funny thread. I've never seen a Wizard get the deluxe treatment from fans on this board that Rui gets!
Here's a fact: Rui was not a very good rookie. Not at all. Not horrible for a rookie -- but definitely not good.
Here's another fact: Rui was worse -- not better -- his second year as compared to his rookie year.
Did he improve in some things? Of course he did! But he got worse in others. Overall, his productivity dropped.
Can people have different opinions about the above? People can think whatever they want; no one can stop them.
But, how Rui played as a rookie & how he played his second year are both in the numbers. So, if the numbers say something got a little better, that's good. & if they say something else got worse, that's bad. & you have to look at both cases -- not just the one you like. Both.
Has Rui ever had a good game? Sure he has!
Has Rui ever had a series of good games? Once in a while he's had a stretch of 2-3 games in a row that were good. & once in a while he has had a longer stretch in which a few of them were good.
How about a bad game? Has Rui ever had one of those? Sure he has!
A series of bad games? Uh huh, he has.
Is Rui a good NBA player? No, he's not. He's not close to being a good player. Why? Because, overall, he doesn't put up good numbers, & that's how you know if a player should be called "good."
How about "average" -- is he average? No, he's not, & he's not close to average either. Why? Because, overall, he doesn't put up average numbers, & that's how you know if a player should be called "average."
Can Rui become a good player? Of course he can! But... he doesn't have forever to do it. No player does.
Why don't we hope for the best & wait to see how he does? Is that really asking too much?
What is considered good numbers on a bad coached team where you have the two biggest "gotta-get-mine" players in Beal and RW?...
Are you saying that if he comes back & posts good numbers then that will mean he's become a better player?
If so, you bet! That's exactly what it will mean.
ruffian253 wrote:...Over the last 2 years, the entire 4th quarter was BB playing hero ball, at least at RW tried to get Rui involved at times. At least this year, there is resemblance of a team offense, so saying Rui is not a good NBA player is not really valid or fair based on pure numbers from last 2 seasons....
Sigh.... In 2019-20, to take a single example of many, Thomas Bryant was a good NBA player. He put up really good numbers. The year before (i.e. his first year with us), he was even better. I.e. he put up even better numbers. We had the same crappy coach those 2 years as we did last year.
This year, Brad is not as good as he was last year -- I assume that's not something you'd disagree with. But, we have a better coach this year. & a better record too.
ruffian253 wrote:...Yes, he can be inconsistent, but once he has a more defined role and the sets are played to his strengths, he will be much better....
Neither you nor I can have any idea whatever of how good a player Rui will be this season. If, OTOH, what you're saying is that you hope the above is true -- you hope Rui "will be much better" -- then you & I hope the very same thing.
ruffian253 wrote:...and the hope is that Wes can unlock that as opposed to Rui running to the Corner and just being a catch and shoot player from the corner. For some reason, Rui does gets high praises from teammates and players from around the league,
?? He was never "a catch and shoot player from the corner." As to how Rui is viewed around the league, that's something about which you have no way of knowing anything at all. People say nice things about young players, as they should. Moreover, nobody questions that Rui has the size & athleticism he needs. Not to mention hands as big as baseball gloves!
When Rui is actually good, he will actually be good. Then, when we talk about Rui in the present tense, the present tense then, we can say that he is actually good. Until then, if we say that he is actually good -- now -- or that he has been actually good so far, what we say is:
1. untrue -- he isn't & he hasn't been.
2. unhelpful -- it doesn't make him better or help him get better
3. pointless -- it doesn't help anyone to understand Rui, and
4. destructive -- it makes people think about things unrelated to excellence in basketball.
Why don't we just tell the truth? Why don't we just say that we don't know how good Rui will be, but we hope he'll be real good. Then we can wait & see. & either he will be or he won't be. Up to now, he hasn't been. Which doesn't mean he hasn't had some good games.