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*A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:27 pm
by badinage
I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season ____.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal ____.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris ____.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] ____.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick ____.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster ____.
Chances that Gafford is dealt _____.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:34 pm
by badinage
I’ll go first …
badinage wrote:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season _70___.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal _65___.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris 80____.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] _55___.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick _15___.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels. _40____
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season 80____.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _40___.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster _100__.
Chances that Gafford is dealt __60___.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:35 pm
by badinage
badinage wrote:I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season ____.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal ____.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris ____.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] ____.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick ____.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels _____.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster ____.
Chances that Gafford is dealt _____.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:23 pm
by Ruzious
badinage wrote:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season _10___.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal _20___.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris __5__.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] _5___.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick _15___.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels. _50____
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season __5__.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _40___.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster _80__.
Chances that Gafford is dealt __5___.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 9:50 pm
by payitforward
I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season _0___.
I assumed that you mean "back on the Wizards," right...?
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal __10__.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris __3__.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] __3__.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick __10__.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels 50__.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season __10__.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _90___.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster _100__.
Chances that Gafford is dealt _10__.
I have no idea why I think any of the above or whether my percentages make any sense at all -- just went with gut intuition no thought process.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:20 pm
by gesa2
I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season 10.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal 15.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris 5.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] 15. Wait does this include a Beal resigning? If it does then 90.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick 13.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels. 15
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season 20.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season 40.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster 70
Chances that Gafford is dealt 10.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:24 pm
by gesa2
I think with the draft we as a group often start to think that the board consensus is the NBA or wizards’ management consensus. That’s part of why there is so much anger when the board’s pick isn’t chosen. Not that I wouldn’t give DAT2U the draft room in a second but we are all discounting the possibility that we draft Ty Ty Washington or Jeremy Sochan at 10, when those 2 are probably more likely than Eason or Daniels.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:41 pm
by WallToWall
badinage wrote:I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season __0__.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal __75__.
I expect Beal to tell TS that he wants out, and TS will pull out a trade that nets multiple high picks and at least one good young player.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris _25__.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] _90_.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick _3__.
#SoWizards
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels.
Stay at #10 - 70
Land one of Eason or Daniels. - 25. TS probably sees someone else to draft there, and/or those two will be gone.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season __10_.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _50__.
If/when Beal is traded, Kuz will also be traded soon after.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster __100_.
I am expecting major changes in personnel due to a Beal trade.
Chances that Gafford is dealt __20__.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:27 pm
by payitforward
WallToWall wrote:...Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal __75__.
I expect Beal to tell TS that he wants out, and TS will pull out a trade that nets multiple high picks and at least one good young player....
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis... _90_.
...Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _50__.
If/when Beal is traded, Kuz will also be traded soon after.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster __100_.
I am expecting major changes in personnel due to a Beal trade....
Now this is a
very interesting take! Let's hear more, man!
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:29 pm
by DCZards
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season 15%.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal 10%.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris 10%
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] 25%.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick 22%.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels 60%
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season 45%
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season 25%
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster 50%.
Chances that Gafford is dealt 15%.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 1:27 am
by WallToWall
payitforward wrote:WallToWall wrote:...Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal __75__.
I expect Beal to tell TS that he wants out, and TS will pull out a trade that nets multiple high picks and at least one good young player....
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis... _90_.
...Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _50__.
If/when Beal is traded, Kuz will also be traded soon after.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster __100_.
I am expecting major changes in personnel due to a Beal trade....
Now this is a
very interesting take! Let's hear more, man!
All speculation, as the thread suggest. Evidence is lacking. But I will make conjectures like everyone else.
TS has done some work, while in charge of the front office, to engineer some big moves in each of his seasons here. His track record, when it comes to trades, is good. (Not talking about picks he makes.) He is not afraid to make changes, and roll the dice to land a different combination of players which MAY result in more wins for the team. I expect the same from him this season. As soon as a player says he wants to be traded/moved, TS will get to work to get the best out of a trade.
Beal has said that he wants to stay, and he has also been non-committal in some conversations. I am sure he is looking at the combination of players on the team and wondering if they can be competitive and win the conference finals. The conclusion should be that they are not a team capable of winning the conference finals. So, Beal should ask for a trade or let TS know that he will opt out. That is why I think Beal will be traded, and that TS will be able to engineer good value in trade.
You need tradable assets to make trades. Assuming that TS will not trade anyone <=25 yo (TS has said that he will not trade the "future" for "now"), unless the deal is quite favorable, who else is there to be traded? Answer is - everyone over 26 yo. Kuzma, KCP, Gill, Ish Smith, should be on the trade block.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Fri Jun 3, 2022 5:31 pm
by CobraCommander
badinage wrote:I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season __50__.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal ___80_.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris ___20_.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] _60___.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick __0__.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels. 100%
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season 20____.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season _10___.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster ___70_.
Chances that Gafford is dealt __5___.
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Fri Jun 3, 2022 7:20 pm
by Chocolate City Jordanaire
badinage wrote:I’d love for everybody to give pcts. for the following:
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season ____.
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal ____.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris ____.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] ____.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick ____.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season ____.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster ____.
Chances that Gafford is dealt _____.
Wall back? 90% John in a Wizards uni? 50% I think he's going to retire as a Wizard, EVENTUALLY. \
TS pulling a Beal deal to rival his Wall and Westbrook deals: 65% badinage, this is one HELL of a good thread! I think this is in play for sure. Johnny Davis or Shaedon Sharpe or possibly Devin Daniels will be there to take over. Not watch Bradley hog the usage. BEAL is deal-bound IMO.
Maxey, FRP, and Tobias Harris possibility? 35% but it's NICE to dream or plant the idea. Doc Rivers is a hot mess of a coach and Philly might become desperate seeing Boston hit stride.
TS major trade to help KP: 75%
Top 4 sailed
top 10 Nope
Rui dealt: 45%
Kuz dealt: 30%
4-5 new players: 88.8%
Gafford dealt: 49%
Re: *A Little Speculatory Fun …*
Posted: Fri Jun 3, 2022 11:40 pm
by Dat2U
Chances that John Wall is back this off-season ___0.01%_.
Wall & Leonsis egos are too big to resolve issues now
Chances that TS pulls another Westbrook and Wall deal and trades Beal ___60%_.
I think 60% chance Beal asks out which is the only reason this would happen.
Chances that that net return is Tyrese Maxey, a FRP, and players we get in shipping out Tobias Harris 5%____.
I doubt Morey includes Maxey.
Chances that TS works a major trade to land a top 65 player to go with Porzingis and [guard/wing either acquired in trade, or via a Beal re-signing] _40%___.
Shepp will definitely try, one way or the other. Not sure he has the bullets or the cap flexibility to make it happen.
Chances that we land a Top 4 pick __0.2%__.
We don't have the assets.
Chances that, if we stay at 10, we land one of Eason or Daniels. ___5%___
Daniels will be gone and I don't think Eason is a target with the options already at PF.
Chances that Rui is traded in a deal this off-season _5%___.
Not unless they are blown away with an offer. Big year for him tho.
Chances that Kuz is traded in a deal this off-season __10%__.
I think they'll trade him for a star but they really like him and he's the default 3rd option for now. I assume they aren't rushing to move him.
Chances that we go into next year with 4-5 new players on the roster __75%_.
There will definitely be some turnover. I think one of younguns go. I guess is Deni along with someone else.
Chances that Gafford is dealt __0.5%___.
I'd very surprised. I think he'd be tough to move at the moment due to the new extension.