The Amazingly Sucky Bradley Beal Thread

[JWizmentality]

This man is being paid 250 million dollars to be less than average. The worst "Franchise" player in my lifetime. He doesn't have IT and probably never had IT at any point in his basketball career. And we're stuck with him as the the highest paid player on the team and only the 3rd best player on the team.

[miller31time]

I, for one, think his 1:1 assist/turnover ratio on most nights is inspiring. Every time he turns it over, he says to himself “My bad, I’ll get someone a bucket now.”

We should all be so generous.

[TGW]

I hope he gets booed soon ala Juwan. Force a trade to the Lakers and let the Pissards rebuild in peace.

[AFM]

This fella does smile and laugh a lot for being the face of the biggest joke of a franchise in modern nba history. He should be crying after every game.

[FAH1223]

He’s having one of his better seasons. Efficient numbers.

He’s not the third best player on the team.

[TGW]

He’s having one of his better seasons. Efficient numbers.

He’s not the third best player on the team.

It doesn’t matter…he’s simply not a winning player. And Porzingis, who they got from the trash bin, is better than him.

[FAH1223]

He’s having one of his better seasons. Efficient numbers.

He’s not the third best player on the team.

It doesn’t matter…he’s simply not a winning player. And Porzingis, who they got from the trash bin, is better than him.

KP is absolutely better than him!

[Halcyon]

Blame Ted for refusing to trade him and paying a fringe all-star player the supermax with a no-trade clause. I can't really blame Beal for taking the money and security.

[pcbothwel]

So despite the refs swallowing their whistle starting last year, Beal is having roughly the best season of his career in year 11 and has clearly put last year behind him.
Maybe, just maybe, Having players 3-7 in minutes played (Kuz, Deni, Morris, Barton, and Rui) all provide terrible scoring efficiency (<53% TS) and terrible defense is the problem.

If this team had Haliburton and Eason instead of Deni and Davis, then we would be having different conversations right now.

[nate33]

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

[Dark Faze]

I wish we'd stop saying he's having the best season of his career. He's got a TS of 62 right now vs 59 in 20-21, but he's shooting the ball 40% less. That's the difference between superstar-level output and all-star-level output. He's rebounding less, turning the ball over at a similar rate, but assisting more.

That being said, if this team doesn't rise beyond mediocre, it's going to be because of Tommy's terrible drafting more than anything else.

[JWizmentality]

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

This is not his best season. He's playing tentative and not jacking shots, and good thing too because he's a poor shooter despite what the numbers say. He still turns the ball over and you can't rely on him to hit big shots. I most certainly can blame him as well for his contract. All the pomp and circumstance he displayed during free agency, like he was some superstar to be catered to. He wanted this status so he needs to live up to it.

Kuzma may not be efficient but damn if he hasn't gotten me out of my seat on multiple occasions over the past two years just taking over a game. Same with KP. When was the last time Brad carried this team? Like just imposed his will on the game? He's just...meh.

He can't complain he doesn't have help, when he's the weakest link. Send him to LA for Westbrook. I'm done with him as a fan. And the sad part...we'll be trading valuable assets away all in a effort to appease his below average arse.

[FAH1223]

I wish we'd stop saying he's having the best season of his career. He's got a TS of 62 right now vs 59 in 20-21, but he's shooting the ball 40% less. That's the difference between superstar-level output and all-star-level output. He's rebounding less, turning the ball over at a similar rate, but assisting more.

That being said, if this team doesn't rise beyond mediocre, it's going to be because of Tommy's terrible drafting more than anything else.

He’s shootings less because of KP and Kuz.

Brad on efficient numbers with lower usage isn’t a bad thing!

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

This is not his best season. He's playing tentative and not jacking shots, and good thing too because he's a poor shooter despite what the numbers say. He still turns the ball over and you can't rely on him to hit big shots. I most certainly can blame him as well for his contract. All the pomp and circumstance he displayed during free agency, like he was some superstar to be catered to. He wanted this status so he needs to live up to it.

Kuzma may not be efficient but damn if he hasn't gotten me out of my seat on multiple occasions over the past two years just taking over a game. Same with KP. When was the last time Brad carried this team? Like just imposed his will on the game? He's just...meh.

He can't complain he doesn't have help, when he's the weakest link. Send him to LA for Westbrook. I'm done with him as a fan. And the sad part...we'll be trading valuable assets away all in an effort to appease his below average arse.

He’s not being tentative. He’s being deliberate and he has no reason to hunt or jack shots.

And his shot looks a lot better when he’s catching and spotting up because of the attention KP draws or off of set plays that Wes is drawing up.

Turnovers are a problem when he’s asked to be the PG. That’s true. But he’s been very good playing off ball and picking his spots.

And he’s hit a couple of big shots late. Against Chicago for the game and against OKC for the game till Wes left Monte on SGA.

He’s never going to be worth his contract. He’s not a superstar. He’s a very good player having one of his best seasons which means we should pray this continues and he stays healthy. That way he’s viewed as a positive asset when he does request out.

Cause there will always be teams who will want him as the salary cap and luxury tax thresholds rise in the next 2 seasons and when the new TV rights are signed.

[JWizmentality]

I wish we'd stop saying he's having the best season of his career. He's got a TS of 62 right now vs 59 in 20-21, but he's shooting the ball 40% less. That's the difference between superstar-level output and all-star-level output. He's rebounding less, turning the ball over at a similar rate, but assisting more.

That being said, if this team doesn't rise beyond mediocre, it's going to be because of Tommy's terrible drafting more than anything else.

He’s shootings less because of KP and Kuz.

Brad on efficient numbers with lower usage isn’t a bad thing!

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

This is not his best season. He's playing tentative and not jacking shots, and good thing too because he's a poor shooter despite what the numbers say. He still turns the ball over and you can't rely on him to hit big shots. I most certainly can blame him as well for his contract. All the pomp and circumstance he displayed during free agency, like he was some superstar to be catered to. He wanted this status so he needs to live up to it.

Kuzma may not be efficient but damn if he hasn't gotten me out of my seat on multiple occasions over the past two years just taking over a game. Same with KP. When was the last time Brad carried this team? Like just imposed his will on the game? He's just...meh.

He can't complain he doesn't have help, when he's the weakest link. Send him to LA for Westbrook. I'm done with him as a fan. And the sad part...we'll be trading valuable assets away all in an effort to appease his below average arse.

He’s not being tentative. He’s being deliberate and he has no reason to hunt or jack shots.

And his shot looks a lot better when he’s catching and spotting up because of the attention KP draws or off of set plays that Wes is drawing up.

Turnovers are a problem when he’s asked to be the PG. That’s true. But he’s been very good playing off ball and picking his spots.

And he’s hit a couple of big shots late. Against Chicago for the game and against OKC for the game till Wes left Monte on SGA.

He’s never going to be worth his contract. He’s not a superstar. He’s a very good player having one of his best seasons which means we should pray this continues and he stays healthy. That way he’s viewed as a positive asset when he does request out.

Cause there will always be teams who will want him as the salary cap and luxury tax thresholds rise in the next 2 seasons and when the new TV rights are signed.

Other players masking the fact that you're a terrible player doesn't change the fact that you're a terrible player. Because every now and then your shortcomings cost us games. The turnovers, poor shooting and historically atrocious clutch player is still there. Glaringly so.

The turnovers isn't a scheme thing. That narrative needs to stop. Brad was doing his dribble and fall down crap since the John Wall days. It's a mental thing. The yips as some people call it.

[Kanyewest]

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

People have seemed to have already pre-determined their narrative at this point. We already have a quote - "I don't care what the numbers say but he's not a good shooter" even though the numbers have been better for him in recent memory.

[DCZards]

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

People have seemed to have already pre-determined their narrative at this point. We already have a quote - "I don't care what the numbers say but he's not a good shooter" even though the numbers have been better for him in recent memory.

Yup...for some posters it's no longer about the facts or stats when it comes to Beal...it's all about their emotions. Labeling BB a "terrible player" is probably the best example of that.

[JWizmentality]

I don't get the Beal hate. The guy is having arguably the best season of his career. Yes, his best still isn't good enough to lead the team to contention, but that's not Beal's fault. He was never a Tier 1 superstar. You can't squeeze blood from a stone.

The anger should be directed directly at Leonsis and Sheppard.

People have seemed to have already pre-determined their narrative at this point. We already have a quote - "I don't care what the numbers say but he's not a good shooter" even though the numbers have been better for him in recent memory.

Are you drawing up a game winning shot for Beal? Yes or No?

[TGW]

LOL at "not getting the hate."

Any athlete that gets vastly paid more than his production is worth is going to get denounced by the fanbase. He's getting paid Giannis money to be the second best player on a bad team. Of course he's going to get hate...silly.

[Godymas]

Beal is not playing like the superstar he's paid to be

he's playing as the #2 option to Porzingis which is hilarious and stupid and all and yet...wasn't there once a franchise guy that got a ton of money like Beal to do the same thing last decade? In 2016 Mike Conley became one of the highest paid players in the league. He hadn't made an All Star, All NBA, and had just one All Defense to his name.

His contract was for $152 million in 2016 which in 2022 numbers is about $190 million. Beal signed for a bit more and yet Beal is a proven star, multiple time All Star and one All NBA selection.

In all honesty the Beal deal is realistically slightly above what he gets in the open market because of being for the franchise. It isn't a colossal failure but also the Grizz with Conley on that gigantic contract went on to do nothing anyways. I'd say that this years team is more entertaining than a tanking team and the potential still exists to trade pieces and make moves.

I also salivate at the idea that maybe in a year or two, Tatum convinces Beal to team up and we ship out Beal to Boston at his request and get back Jaylen Brown and some contract filler. The idea of being able to have a Porzingis/Brown duo could be really good.

[JWizmentality]

Beal is not playing like the superstar he's paid to be

he's playing as the #2 option to Porzingis which is hilarious and stupid and all and yet...wasn't there once a franchise guy that got a ton of money like Beal to do the same thing last decade? In 2016 Mike Conley became one of the highest paid players in the league. He hadn't made an All Star, All NBA, and had just one All Defense to his name.

His contract was for $152 million in 2016 which in 2022 numbers is about $190 million. Beal signed for a bit more and yet Beal is a proven star, multiple time All Star and one All NBA selection.

In all honesty the Beal deal is realistically slightly above what he gets in the open market because of being for the franchise. It isn't a colossal failure but also the Grizz with Conley on that gigantic contract went on to do nothing anyways. I'd say that this years team is more entertaining than a tanking team and the potential still exists to trade pieces and make moves.

I also salivate at the idea that maybe in a year or two, Tatum convinces Beal to team up and we ship out Beal to Boston at his request and get back Jaylen Brown and some contract filler. The idea of being able to have a Porzingis/Brown duo could be really good.

Jaylen Brown is vastly better than Beal. Boston is not run by Ernie Grunfeld.