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OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:13 pm
by FAH1223
Excerpt:
In the wake of the public relations disaster that was the Bryan Colangelo firing, the Sixers, sources say, went to extensive lengths to woo Myers. Philadelphia was prepared to put him atop the league’s payscale, or at least really close to it. Ultimately, Myers chose to stay put with the Warriors. If he were to leave Golden State this summer, he’d likely be the most sought after front office free agent on the market.
But where might he go?
According to sources close to the situation, Washington, Phoenix, and New York are all worth monitoring as possibilities. Meanwhile, the recent focus in front office circles, where Myers’ situation has become a hot topic, is on the Clippers. They have the richest owner in all of professional sports in Steve Ballmer, the 66-year-old former Microsoft CEO with an $83 billion net worth who has taken the blank-check approach to his title pursuit since buying the team in 2014.
Myers’ roots run deep in the Los Angeles area. He played at UCLA, earned his law degree at Loyola Law School and was a prominent agent at the LA-based Wasserman Media Group before joining the Warriors as an assistant general manager in 2011. Yet, while Ballmer’s injury-riddled team has been a disappointment so far in this Kawhi Leonard–Paul George era, a source with knowledge of the Clippers’ operation pushed back on the widely discussed Myers possibility.
Bottom line: it’s far too early to tell where Myers might land if he leaves the Warriors, or if he’ll remain in the NBA at all. Sources close to Myers have also left open the possibility he could pursue opportunities outside the sport. That would give credence to the idea Myers may leave the Warriors because of burnout.
There are competitive advantages to working under a majority owner like Joe Lacob. He has spent historical amounts of salary on the roster. When a coaching staff overhaul was requested two summers ago, he opened the checkbook. They continue to expand their front office workforce, scouting department and medical staff.
That’s the case for Myers to stay. It would be hard to find a place that provides him with more resources. He gets to work in the Bay Area, where he was born and raised, and be a legend for the franchise he grew up watching. All while making significant money, even if not the most in the league, and receiving the perks of running the NBA’s glamor team.
In the NBA world, what the Warriors have is considered elite living, driven by an unquenchable desire for rampant success. This is why some insiders believe, if presented with a deadline and must-match dollar amount to keep Myers, Lacob will pay what it takes to keep him around. Executive salaries don’t count toward the luxury tax.
But the same constant ambition that makes the Warriors an elite franchise is the same constant ambition that grinds on those in direct orbit. Sources say Lacob is more involved than ever in the day-to-day personnel choices. He studies the draft, attends workouts and crafts big boards. He played an influential role in the franchise’s choice to use its five recent picks on upside teenagers instead of rerouting some of that capital into older and reliable help to maximize the present.
The Warriors struck that two-timeline balance and still won a title last June. This season, after flooding the back end of the roster with more unprepared youth, the mix has become more problematic. The losses have piled up, creating extra tension for everyone involved in threading the win-and-develop needle.
Myers is the leading mediator of this high-stakes clash. When ground-level concerns arise from Kerr or the All-Stars on the roster, Myers is the trusted ear. When agents wonder why their young clients can’t gain career traction, Myers is the explainer. When Durant tore his Achilles, when James Wiseman missed an entire season, when Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole, it is Myers who faces the public. When Lacob turns the temperature up, Myers is closest to the fire and the staff’s buffer.
This summer is trending toward a culmination. The Warriors’ increased luxury tax concerns and rising salary numbers are creating wrenching personnel decisions. That could involve a choice between whether to part with Green or Klay Thompson, two living franchise legends who have both voiced a relative unease about their future with the Warriors beyond their current contracts.
Myers can’t be thrilled at the prospect of making that call, especially considering he’s going to have to break that news to No. 30.
Not that any of the other executives, who also poured themselves into this franchise, would want to make that call, either. But if the dynasty is coming to an end, and the Warriors end up leaning toward the future, that might convince Myers to ride off into the sunset. Perhaps being the league’s highest paid executive could persuade him to stay. Or maybe leaning into the remaining years of the championship window triggers his loyalty to the stars and convinces him he still has work to do with the Warriors.
A lot must play out before Myers’ future is decided. What happens on the court could end up being the deciding factor. Do the Warriors make a late run in the regular season, look like a contender in the postseason, and provoke the Warriors to spend what it takes to keep the core together? Or do they continue on their current path of mediocrity, unable to sustain excellence long enough to keep the focus off the future?
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:18 pm
by CntOutSmrtCrazy
FAH1223 wrote:Excerpt:
In the wake of the public relations disaster that was the Bryan Colangelo firing, the Sixers, sources say, went to extensive lengths to woo Myers. Philadelphia was prepared to put him atop the league’s payscale, or at least really close to it. Ultimately, Myers chose to stay put with the Warriors. If he were to leave Golden State this summer, he’d likely be the most sought after front office free agent on the market.
But where might he go?
According to sources close to the situation, Washington, Phoenix, and New York are all worth monitoring as possibilities. Meanwhile, the recent focus in front office circles, where Myers’ situation has become a hot topic, is on the Clippers. They have the richest owner in all of professional sports in Steve Ballmer, the 66-year-old former Microsoft CEO with an $83 billion net worth who has taken the blank-check approach to his title pursuit since buying the team in 2014.
Myers’ roots run deep in the Los Angeles area. He played at UCLA, earned his law degree at Loyola Law School and was a prominent agent at the LA-based Wasserman Media Group before joining the Warriors as an assistant general manager in 2011. Yet, while Ballmer’s injury-riddled team has been a disappointment so far in this Kawhi Leonard–Paul George era, a source with knowledge of the Clippers’ operation pushed back on the widely discussed Myers possibility.
Bottom line: it’s far too early to tell where Myers might land if he leaves the Warriors, or if he’ll remain in the NBA at all. Sources close to Myers have also left open the possibility he could pursue opportunities outside the sport. That would give credence to the idea Myers may leave the Warriors because of burnout.
There are competitive advantages to working under a majority owner like Joe Lacob. He has spent historical amounts of salary on the roster. When a coaching staff overhaul was requested two summers ago, he opened the checkbook. They continue to expand their front office workforce, scouting department and medical staff.
That’s the case for Myers to stay. It would be hard to find a place that provides him with more resources. He gets to work in the Bay Area, where he was born and raised, and be a legend for the franchise he grew up watching. All while making significant money, even if not the most in the league, and receiving the perks of running the NBA’s glamor team.
In the NBA world, what the Warriors have is considered elite living, driven by an unquenchable desire for rampant success. This is why some insiders believe, if presented with a deadline and must-match dollar amount to keep Myers, Lacob will pay what it takes to keep him around. Executive salaries don’t count toward the luxury tax.
But the same constant ambition that makes the Warriors an elite franchise is the same constant ambition that grinds on those in direct orbit. Sources say Lacob is more involved than ever in the day-to-day personnel choices. He studies the draft, attends workouts and crafts big boards. He played an influential role in the franchise’s choice to use its five recent picks on upside teenagers instead of rerouting some of that capital into older and reliable help to maximize the present.
The Warriors struck that two-timeline balance and still won a title last June. This season, after flooding the back end of the roster with more unprepared youth, the mix has become more problematic. The losses have piled up, creating extra tension for everyone involved in threading the win-and-develop needle.
Myers is the leading mediator of this high-stakes clash. When ground-level concerns arise from Kerr or the All-Stars on the roster, Myers is the trusted ear. When agents wonder why their young clients can’t gain career traction, Myers is the explainer. When Durant tore his Achilles, when James Wiseman missed an entire season, when Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole, it is Myers who faces the public. When Lacob turns the temperature up, Myers is closest to the fire and the staff’s buffer.
This summer is trending toward a culmination. The Warriors’ increased luxury tax concerns and rising salary numbers are creating wrenching personnel decisions. That could involve a choice between whether to part with Green or Klay Thompson, two living franchise legends who have both voiced a relative unease about their future with the Warriors beyond their current contracts.
Myers can’t be thrilled at the prospect of making that call, especially considering he’s going to have to break that news to No. 30.
Not that any of the other executives, who also poured themselves into this franchise, would want to make that call, either. But if the dynasty is coming to an end, and the Warriors end up leaning toward the future, that might convince Myers to ride off into the sunset. Perhaps being the league’s highest paid executive could persuade him to stay. Or maybe leaning into the remaining years of the championship window triggers his loyalty to the stars and convinces him he still has work to do with the Warriors.
A lot must play out before Myers’ future is decided. What happens on the court could end up being the deciding factor. Do the Warriors make a late run in the regular season, look like a contender in the postseason, and provoke the Warriors to spend what it takes to keep the core together? Or do they continue on their current path of mediocrity, unable to sustain excellence long enough to keep the focus off the future?
Ain't no way he picks us if he has his choice of teams with Ted owning this team.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:21 pm
by AFM
Weren’t there reports that people actually covet positions with the wizards because they know it comes with 100% job security?
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:38 pm
by CntOutSmrtCrazy
AFM wrote:Weren’t there reports that people actually covet positions with the wizards because they know it comes with 100% job security?
Even if that's the case, can't imagine I guy of Myers pedigree of winning 4 championships in the past decade wanting to come here.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:56 pm
by 80sballboy
No way this is happening, but it's a positive sign that Ted is sniffing around and he's about done with Tommy.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:12 pm
by closg00
Ted is not sniffing around anything, he runs a Mom and Pop operation, hired Ernie's flunky, and Nepo-hired Wes's son.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:19 pm
by montestewart
AFM wrote:Weren’t there reports that people actually covet positions with the wizards because they know it comes with 100% job security?
Same urinal cake dude for 13+ years
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:19 pm
by TGW
This sounds like speculation with no real legs to it. I think any GM with a name is going to be "linked" to the Wizards somehow.
I think Leonsis is just fine with the flunkie running the team.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:37 pm
by 80sballboy
TGW wrote:This sounds like speculation with no real legs to it. I think any GM with a name is going to be "linked" to the Wizards somehow.
I think Leonsis is just fine with the flunkie running the team.
Troy Haliburton mentioned that last week. Whether he has a real source or not, that's the second story about Ted thinking about making a move. We said the same thing about EG and sure, he f-cked up by hiring within instead of going outside. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:06 pm
by Wizardspride
80sballboy wrote:No way this is happening, but it's a positive sign that Ted is sniffing around and he's about done with Tommy.
Fwiw, Troy Haliburton (on a podcast) reported Tommy was on the hot seat.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:08 pm
by montestewart
80sballboy wrote:TGW wrote:This sounds like speculation with no real legs to it. I think any GM with a name is going to be "linked" to the Wizards somehow.
I think Leonsis is just fine with the flunkie running the team.
Troy Haliburton mentioned that last week. Whether he has a real source or not, that's the second story about Ted thinking about making a move. We said the same thing about EG and sure, he f-cked up by hiring within instead of going outside. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
People from within must know he doesn’t have a clue but know what he wants to hear. Remember how MJ caused sparks when he told Pollin things he didn’t want to hear. We need a GM with a visible ego and an owner who can handle pushback from senior management. I don’t think we have either.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:07 pm
by 80sballboy
montestewart wrote:80sballboy wrote:TGW wrote:This sounds like speculation with no real legs to it. I think any GM with a name is going to be "linked" to the Wizards somehow.
I think Leonsis is just fine with the flunkie running the team.
Troy Haliburton mentioned that last week. Whether he has a real source or not, that's the second story about Ted thinking about making a move. We said the same thing about EG and sure, he f-cked up by hiring within instead of going outside. Hopefully he has learned his lesson.
People from within must know he doesn’t have a clue but know what he wants to hear. Remember how MJ caused sparks when he told Pollin things he didn’t want to hear. We need a GM with a visible ego and an owner who can handle pushback from senior management. I don’t think we have either.
If I had no hope for this organization, I'd never follow them again. It's the only reason I continue because there is a sliver of hope that Ted becomes rational and does the right thing for once.
Who is in the know? Do you know? Do I know? It's certainly not the people who are paid to follow the team.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:46 pm
by Dat2U
As long as Leonsis has his yearly playoff gate mandate, its hard to envision a real good GM candidate taking the Wizards seriously.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:40 pm
by nate33
All good GM candidates will pretend to be interested in the Wizards so that Leonsis can drive up the price. They will then go to the highest bidder among the actually competent organizations, leaving Ted high and dry. We've seen this movie before with Ujiri and Connely.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:18 am
by Kanyewest
nate33 wrote:All good GM candidates will pretend to be interested in the Wizards so that Leonsis can drive up the price. They will then go to the highest bidder among the actually competent organizations, leaving Ted high and dry. We've seen this movie before with Ujiri and Connely.
Not sure how competent the Timberwolves are at the moment - mostly because of the Gobert trade.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:11 am
by gambitx777
Look if I'm a dude and I know what I'm doing and the wizards job comes open and Ted goes I want to be able to hand this off and not think about it and he offers you a small kingdom in salary. You probably take it cuz you know you'll have a job till you decide to retire.
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Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:24 am
by doclinkin
gambitx777 wrote:Look if I'm a dude and I know what I'm doing and the wizards job comes open and Ted goes I want to be able to hand this off and not think about it and he offers you a small kingdom in salary. You probably take it cuz you know you'll have a job till you decide to retire.
Except the only way that job becomes open is because he fired the last guy who was loyal to the organization for 20 years but only had that spot for a short time. AND was handcuffed because the owner insisted on paying another injured guard an unreasonable contract.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:39 pm
by pancakes3
The difference between Leonsis and Ballmer is night and day. Ted at $1.6B is still trying to make money. Ballmer at $83B has enough that he can buy every single team in the league and still have money than Ted.
Ted obviously thinks that growing Monumental Sports with the Wizards as a profit-generating asset is the way to go, and from a business perspective, he's probably right. An investment dollar probably yields more returns going to a media company than a sports franchise that has built-in revenue sharing. But that means he's less willing to take the Wizards' profits to reinvest into the franchise, paying luxtax, get better scouting, expanding front office, improve facilities, etc. because he needs that money to expand Monumental Sports' operations. Even if Ted had the money, he'd rather deploy those to buy up the Commies and Nats before dedicating the cash to improve the Wizards.
He's show us from the beginning, all he wants from the team is to be profitable, so he'll spend the minimally necessary amount to make the team profitable. Not a penny more because those pennies need to go towards his other endeavors.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:55 pm
by TGW
pancakes3 wrote:The difference between Leonsis and Ballmer is night and day. Ted at $1.6B is still trying to make money. Ballmer at $83B has enough that he can buy every single team in the league and still have money than Ted.
Ted obviously thinks that growing Monumental Sports with the Wizards as a profit-generating asset is the way to go, and from a business perspective, he's probably right. An investment dollar probably yields more returns going to a media company than a sports franchise that has built-in revenue sharing. But that means he's less willing to take the Wizards' profits to reinvest into the franchise, paying luxtax, get better scouting, expanding front office, improve facilities, etc. because he needs that money to expand Monumental Sports' operations. Even if Ted had the money, he'd rather deploy those to buy up the Commies and Nats before dedicating the cash to improve the Wizards.
He's show us from the beginning, all he wants from the team is to be profitable, so he'll spend the minimally necessary amount to make the team profitable. Not a penny more because those pennies need to go towards his other endeavors.
Totally agree. this is a solid high-level view of the vision of Monumental Sports. Goal #1 for Leonsis is positive EBIT growth. I don't know what the Wizards' balance sheet looks like, but maybe someone can explain to me why operating at a lower expense (i.e. tanking and lowering salary committment) isn't more profitable than their current path? The finance and accounting nerds need to explain it to me.
Re: OT: Wizards amongst teams to monitor if Bob Myers leaves Warriors
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:00 pm
by daSwami
pancakes3 wrote:The difference between Leonsis and Ballmer is night and day. Ted at $1.6B is still trying to make money. Ballmer at $83B has enough that he can buy every single team in the league and still have money than Ted.
Ted obviously thinks that growing Monumental Sports with the Wizards as a profit-generating asset is the way to go, and from a business perspective, he's probably right. An investment dollar probably yields more returns going to a media company than a sports franchise that has built-in revenue sharing. But that means he's less willing to take the Wizards' profits to reinvest into the franchise, paying luxtax, get better scouting, expanding front office, improve facilities, etc. because he needs that money to expand Monumental Sports' operations. Even if Ted had the money, he'd rather deploy those to buy up the Commies and Nats before dedicating the cash to improve the Wizards.
He's show us from the beginning, all he wants from the team is to be profitable, so he'll spend the minimally necessary amount to make the team profitable. Not a penny more because those pennies need to go towards his other endeavors.
This is my cynical take, too, I just wish Ted would get over his dumb anti-tanking bias.