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The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 3:22 am
by FAH1223
And counting per Drew Gooden on the NBC Sports Washington telecast.

Let’s keep this counting.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 4:14 am
by Dat2U
It happens when the roster has only 3 legit scoring options and one of them is woefully inefficient.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 12:43 pm
by closg00
Dat2U wrote:It happens when the roster has only 3 legit scoring options and one of them is woefully inefficient.


....and we're flying in another non-scorer from Australia, can you imagine Xavier and Deni playing together?

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 12:52 pm
by Frichuela
closg00 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:It happens when the roster has only 3 legit scoring options and one of them is woefully inefficient.


....and we're flying in another non-scorer from Australia, can you imagine Xavier and Deni playing together?


Just imagine: Wright/Beal/Deni/Cooks/Gafford...No spacing for Beal to attack the rim whatsoever...

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 1:03 pm
by long suffrin' boulez fan
There are patterns to these consistent failures. Guys get complacent. Usually Beal or Kuzma jack up a heat check shot that kills our momentum. Or WUJ rolls with the no defense line up featuring Nunn and Krispy together (not last night, I know). Or Beal goofs around and makes a sloppy pass.

We don’t value possessions, especially when we are ahead. If you listen to Gooden, he usually senses it. There are times in the game where if we were to buckle down and go on a mini run, turning a 17 pt lead into a 25 pt lead, we might just break the other team’s spirit.

It’s a shame, because in most games, we show some solid potential… but we lack professionalism from top to bottom of the organization.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 1:52 pm
by JWizmentality
Frichuela wrote:
closg00 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:It happens when the roster has only 3 legit scoring options and one of them is woefully inefficient.


....and we're flying in another non-scorer from Australia, can you imagine Xavier and Deni playing together?


Just imagine: Wright/Beal/Deni/Cooks/Gafford...No spacing for Beal to attack the rim whatsoever...


The fraud can't make layups anyway

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 4:16 pm
by WallToWall
...if these were all wins...
But, alas, they are not.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 5:22 pm
by closg00
Even having won 4 out of 3 of these would have us comfortably in the playoff hunt rather than barely hanging on to the last play-in spot, many of these are coaching losses.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 7:25 pm
by Halcyon
All of the above. It's an organizational failure.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:33 pm
by Dat2U
closg00 wrote:Even having won 4 out of 3 of these would have us comfortably in the playoff hunt rather than barely hanging on to the last play-in spot, many of these are coaching losses.


I strongly disagree. Wes is arguably the best coach this franchise has had since Dick Motta. The roster is simply not good enough. If Deni is 4th among rotation players in usage at 16%, that's a clear indication of a lack of shot creators. I keep saying Kuz is forced into heavy usage because no one beyond the medium 3 can create shots unless your playing Kendrick Nunn who's terrible.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:09 am
by FAH1223
Dat2U wrote:
closg00 wrote:Even having won 4 out of 3 of these would have us comfortably in the playoff hunt rather than barely hanging on to the last play-in spot, many of these are coaching losses.


I strongly disagree. Wes is arguably the best coach this franchise has had since Dick Motta. The roster is simply not good enough. If Deni is 4th among rotation players in usage at 16%, that's a clear indication of a lack of shot creators. I keep saying Kuz is forced into heavy usage because no one beyond the medium 3 can create shots unless your playing Kendrick Nunn who's terrible.


This stings more each time he tells the story.

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Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:40 am
by closg00
:o WHAT!?!? I have never heard this story.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:49 am
by Dat2U
Of course Shepp preferred the brick layer and tried to turn him into a 3&D guy while passing on one of the best shooters in college.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:10 am
by doclinkin
Man. Its fine when we trash our organization, but to hear Haliburton like "thank god" that we didn't pick him. Sigh.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:34 pm
by leswizards
Dat2U wrote:
closg00 wrote:Even having won 4 out of 3 of these would have us comfortably in the playoff hunt rather than barely hanging on to the last play-in spot, many of these are coaching losses.


I strongly disagree. Wes is arguably the best coach this franchise has had since Dick Motta. The roster is simply not good enough. If Deni is 4th among rotation players in usage at 16%, that's a clear indication of a lack of shot creators. I keep saying Kuz is forced into heavy usage because no one beyond the medium 3 can create shots unless your playing Kendrick Nunn who's terrible.


Kyle shoots as much as he does because he has Kobe’s mentality without his talent. Also, he does it because wuj allows him to do it.

Kyle does not create shots for himself. He is forces shots that aren’t there. There is huge difference.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:59 pm
by keynote
This is a cultural issue from the top (Ted, Shep) down.

The organization demonstrates a huge lack of self-awareness. Everyone thinks the Wizards are better than they are. They think the team is more talented than they are, and the FO thinks they're smarter than they are. Nobody displays a clear understanding of the gap between our situation and contending teams.

It's why Ted and EG just assumed they could get KD or Horford, and didn't have a well-considered plan C.

That's why the team routinely looks overconfident -- they act like they can flip a switch and cruise to victory. They don't realize they have little margin for error.

That's why the FO routinely overestimates their ability to refashion square pegs into round holes.

That's also why Ted and the FO operate as if we're one player away from contending, when the entire roster needs to be overhauled.

The team displays a sense of entitlement to success without a commensurate commitment to investing the time, money, work, and accountability required to achieve it. Borderline incel behavior.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:17 pm
by payitforward
Dat2U wrote:
closg00 wrote:Even having won 4 out of 3 of these would have us comfortably in the playoff hunt rather than barely hanging on to the last play-in spot, many of these are coaching losses.

I strongly disagree. Wes is arguably the best coach this franchise has had since Dick Motta. The roster is simply not good enough. If Deni is 4th among rotation players in usage at 16%, that's a clear indication of a lack of shot creators. I keep saying Kuz is forced into heavy usage because no one beyond the medium 3 can create shots unless your playing Kendrick Nunn who's terrible.

Agree totally!

There's no secret lack-of-sauce to discover. The reason we aren't a good team is that we don't have good enough players to be a good team. Wow... what a shock, huh?

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:31 pm
by leswizards
keynote wrote:This is a cultural issue from the top (Ted, Shep) down.

The organization demonstrates a huge lack of self-awareness. Everyone thinks the Wizards are better than they are. They think the team is more talented than they are, and the FO thinks they're smarter than they are. Nobody displays a clear understanding of the gap between our situation and contending teams.

It's why Ted and EG just assumed they could get KD or Horford, and didn't have a well-considered plan C.

That's why the team routinely looks overconfident -- they act like they can flip a switch and cruise to victory. They don't realize they have little margin for error.

That's why the FO routinely overestimates their ability to refashion square pegs into round holes.

That's also why Ted and the FO operate as if we're one player away from contending, when the entire roster needs to be overhauled.

The team displays a sense of entitlement to success without a commensurate commitment to investing the time, money, work, and accountability required to achieve it. Borderline incel behavior.


You basically wrote that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is clueless, so:

With all due respect, you are full of shot, and don’t have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Wuj is an awful coach, and kuzma is an awful player, and shep doesn’t seem to grasp that, so maybe he is a problem that needs to be addressed. That is about as far as you can go. Your assertion that the whole roster needs to be overhauled is complete and utter bull ****.

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:43 pm
by leswizards
The Wizards have 3 players that are great players on great contracts. (Gafford, morris and wright).

The Wizards have 5 players on decent contracts, and there is really no pressing need to replace them. (Deni, gill, cook Goodwin, and kispert)

The Wizards have 2 players that probably won’t be back next season, but if they are back, they will probably be on decent contracts. (Nunn and taj)

Kp is a great player that many people feel is overpaid. I get it. But take away Beal’s contract, and I don’t think anyone would be worried about his contract. Think about it. Everyone seems to think kuzma is getting $30 million next season. Kp is vastly better and is only getting a few million extra.

That really only leaves 3 problematic players and a bunch of end of bench players not worth talking about. Beal is very good, but vastly overpaid. Kuzma is awful. Davis seems to be awful.

Where is this vast roster overhaul that pif thinks needs to be done?

Re: The 2022-23 Wizards have blown seven 15-point leads, #1 in the NBA

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:45 pm
by GoneShammGone
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:There are patterns to these consistent failures. Guys get complacent. Usually Beal or Kuzma jack up a heat check shot that kills our momentum. Or WUJ rolls with the no defense line up featuring Nunn and Krispy together (not last night, I know). Or Beal goofs around and makes a sloppy pass.



YES!! This kills me. Its such a correctable problem if the coaches would just address it.

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:It’s a shame, because in most games, we show some solid potential… but we lack professionalism from top to bottom of the organization.


Signature worthy quote.