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2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:55 pm
by nate33
Continued from here

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:13 pm
by nate33
Fascinating:

Read on Twitter


Reed Sheppard is BOTH a son of an NBA baller and a Kentucky alum.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:15 pm
by AFM
Interesting. Aren't Tmac and Vince Carter cousins? I wonder where that shows up on the list

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:33 pm
by NatP4
Stacey Sheppard (Reed’s mom) was one of the best players in Kentucky women’s basketball history.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:51 pm
by Endless Loop
nate33 wrote:Fascinating:

Read on Twitter


Reed Sheppard is BOTH a son of an NBA baller and a Kentucky alum.


ENOUGH, I say!
Draft him!!

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:35 pm
by closg00
UK produces good NBA players, don't forget the other UK kid Rob Dillingham :nod:

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:37 pm
by closg00
DP

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:04 pm
by 80sballboy
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Again, I think this pick is going to be a Euro who is 2-3 years away. HOWEVER, if the Spurs trade up to take Saar at No. 1, I'm ok with Sheppard going 2 to us.

I don't think there is another Steph Curry amongst us. But he might be a poor man's Steph and I'd take that. Steph Curry was too slow, too small and there were all sorts of defensive issues. Some of them came true, but he was so f-ing good offensively and worked his ass off to get bigger, quicker and work on that handle. Shep has a ways to go to be in that conversation, but he's already a better athlete.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:22 pm
by closg00
closg00 wrote:
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Hawks GM Landry Fields said he plans to hold on to the top pick (https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/hawks-gm-makes-it-clear-he-intends-to-keep-no-1-pick) — “The more that we uncover, like we go, great, I’m glad we have No. 1. I keep joking around like I’m not giving it back.” — but in the same breath admits that his phone “continuously rings” with other GM’s calling about that pick. League sources told NBC Sports the Hawks are still taking those calls — this isn’t like a year ago when the Spurs laughed then hung up on
any inquiries — although it will take a massive offer to get the top pick out of Atlanta.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:29 pm
by Dat2U
15 out of the top 32 guards in the league last season according to EPMs EW (Estimated wins) statistic are 6-3 or less. This should kill the arguments against Sheppard & Dillingham due to size.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:39 pm
by AFM
Dat2U wrote:15 out of the top 32 guards in the league last season according to EPMs EW (Estimated wins) statistic are 6-3 or less. This should kill the arguments against Sheppard & Dillingham due to size.


Are you saying being good at basketball is more important than an inch or two?


Regardless, looks like it'll be an interesting draft night. I'll be out of town which I'm kind of annoyed about but I'll be checking this thread religiously.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:41 pm
by dobrojim
NatP4 wrote:Stacey Sheppard (Reed’s mom) was one of the best players in Kentucky women’s basketball history.


His dad played as well. I forget the details of that. Yep, Just checked. His dad made it to the NBA.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:11 pm
by machu46
Dat2U wrote:15 out of the top 32 guards in the league last season according to EPMs EW (Estimated wins) statistic are 6-3 or less. This should kill the arguments against Sheppard & Dillingham due to size.


On the flipside, of the top 100 players in EPM, only 21 are 6'3" or less. 17 of the top 100 in terms of estimated wins (I believe, just eye-balling the wins list after I did the EPM side).

I do tend to like the shorter guards in this weird draft class though; particularly Sheppard, Carter, and McCain.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:30 pm
by Dat2U
Updated Tiers (subject to change)

No Tiers 1 or 2:
Tier 3 - Solid starters with all-star potential
3.1 FC Alex Sarr
3.2 PG Rob Dillingham
3.3 SF Ron Holland

Tier 4 - Solid role players with potential to start
4.4 SG Reed Sheppard
4.5 PG Isaiah Collier
4.6 CE Zach Edey
4.7 CE Donovan Clingan

Tier 5 - Rotation guys with potential to be solid role players
5.8 PF Matas Buzelis
5.9 SF Zaccharie Risacher
5.10 FC Daron Holmes II
5.11 SG Jaylon Tyson
5.12 CE Kel'el Ware
5.13 GF Nikola Djurisic
5.14 PG Jared McCain
5 15 PG Nikola Topic
5.16 SF Cody Williams
5.17 SG Pacome Dadiet
5.18 PG Carlton Carrington
5.19 SF Johnny Furphy
5.20 SG Stephon Castle

Tier 6 - End of bench types with potential to be rotation level players
6.21 PF Tristan Da Silva
6.22 SF Dalton Knecht
6.23 PG Tyler Kolek
6.24 PF Kyle Filipowski
6.25 CE Yves Missi
6.26 SG Terrence Shannon Jr
6.27 SG Ja'Kobe Walter
6.28 PF Tidjane Salaun
6.29 SG Devin Carter
6.30 SG Trentyn Flowers
6.31 GF Kyshawn George

Tier 7 - Developmental types/Two-way contract types
7.32 SF Dillon Jones
7.33 PG Ajay Mitchell
7.34 PF Tyler Smith
7.35 PF Bobi Klintman
7.36 SG Cameron Christie
7.37 PG K.J. Simpson
7.38 SF Baylor Scheierman
7.39 GF Melvin Ajinca
7.40 GF Jaylen Wells
7.41 SF Jalen Bridges
7.42 SF Ryan Dunn
7.43 SG Trey Alexander
7.44 SF Isaiah Crawford
7.45 PF Armel Traore
7.46 PG Juan Nunez
7.47 GF Justin Edwards
7.48 SG A.J. Johnson
7.49 SF Kevin McCullar Jr
7.50 PF Keshad Johnson
7.51 SG Antonio Reeves
7.52 PG Tristen Newton
7.53 PF Enrique Freeman
7.54 CE Adem Bona

Tier 8 - Exhibit 10s/G-League
TBD

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:39 pm
by AFM
Dat2U wrote:Updated Tiers (subject to change)

No Tiers 1 or 2:
Tier 3 - Solid starters with all-star potential
3.1 FC Alex Sarr
3.2 PG Rob Dillingham
3.3 SF Ron Holland

Tier 4 - Solid role players with potential to start
4.4 SG Reed Sheppard
4.5 PG Isaiah Collier
4.6 CE Zach Edey
4.7 CE Donovan Clingan

Tier 5 - Rotation guys with potential to be solid role players
5.8 PF Matas Buzelis
5.9 SF Zaccharie Risacher
5.10 FC Daron Holmes II
5.11 SG Jaylon Tyson
5.12 CE Kel'el Ware
5.13 GF Nikola Djurisic
5.14 PG Jared McCain
5.15 SF Cody Williams
5.16 SG Pacome Dadiet
5.17 PG Carlton Carrington
5.18 SF Johnny Furphy
5.19 SG Stephon Castle

Tier 6 - End of bench types with potential to be rotation level players
6.20 PF Tristan Da Silva
6.21 SF Dalton Knecht
6.22 PG Tyler Kolek
6.23 PF Kyle Filipowski
6.24 CE Yves Missi
6.25 SG Terrence Shannon Jr
6.26 SG Ja'Kobe Walter
6.27 PF Tidjane Salaun
6.28 SG Devin Carter
6.29 SG Trentyn Flowers
6.30 GF Kyshawn George

Tier 7 - Developmental types/Two-way contract types
7.31 SF Dillon Jones
7.32 PG Ajay Mitchell
7.33 PF Tyler Smith
7.34 PF Bobi Klintman
7.35 SG Cameron Christie
7.36 PG K.J. Simpson
7.37 SF Baylor Scheierman
7.38 GF Melvin Ajinca
7.39 GF Jaylen Wells
7.40 SF Jalen Bridges
7.41 SF Ryan Dunn
7.42 SG Trey Alexander
7.43 SF Isaiah Crawford
7.44 PF Armel Traore
7.45 PG Juan Nunez
7.46 GF Justin Edwards
7.47 SG A.J. Johnson
7.48 SF Kevin McCullar Jr
7.49 PF Keshad Johnson
7.50 SG Antonio Reeves
7.51 PG Tristen Newton
7.52 PF Enrique Freeman
7.53 CE Adem Bona

Tier 8 - Exhibit 10s/G-League
TBD


Topic's injury has him completely off your list?

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:08 pm
by Dat2U
AFM wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Updated Tiers (subject to change)


Topic's injury has him completely off your list?


Oops .. had em then removed him lol. Just added him back at 15.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:11 pm
by 9 and 20
Seeing some nonsense on basketball twitter of the Spurs trading to number 1 and recreating the Duncan/Robinson twin towers with Wemby and Sarr. Ooof, that would hurt after several days of buying into the narrative of us somehow lucking into Sarr falling to us. Not only does Sarr not get to us, but it also removes the team most motivated to trade for Rissacher from any potential trade at that point. SoWiz is not dead yet!!

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:13 pm
by 9 and 20
AFM wrote:
Dat2U wrote:15 out of the top 32 guards in the league last season according to EPMs EW (Estimated wins) statistic are 6-3 or less. This should kill the arguments against Sheppard & Dillingham due to size.


Are you saying being good at basketball is more important than an inch or two?


Regardless, looks like it'll be an interesting draft night. I'll be out of town which I'm kind of annoyed about but I'll be checking this thread religiously.


If your girl told you this, don't believe her. She's hiding something!!!

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:13 pm
by closg00
Dang, Dalton Kenecht and Devin Carter got dissed in Dats tiers.

Re: 2024 Draft Thread - Part III

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:17 pm
by closg00
9 and 20 wrote:Seeing some nonsense on basketball twitter of the Spurs trading to number 1 and recreating the Duncan/Robinson twin towers with Wemby and Sarr. Ooof, that would hurt after several days of buying into the narrative of us somehow lucking into Sarr falling to us. Not only does Sarr not get to us, but it also removes the team most motivated to trade for Rissacher from any potential trade at that point. SoWiz is not dead yet!!


As a Wiz fan of-course I have this nightmare thought, that we end up with Risacher, the Spurs be Spurring...