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Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:49 am
by doclinkin

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Shooter. 40% and ha! His dad is from Montreal, he grew up in Switzerland, another French speaker.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:54 am
by jangles86
Reminds me of a younger Brandon Ingram

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:53 am
by babyjax13
George is really nice - my comp is Joe Ingles - he is a fantastic shooter with playmaking upside and if the body develops at all he could be dangerous. I had him #2 on my big board so ... to me, this is the best value pick in the draft. Will probably take a few years to be a serious contributor because of how underdeveloped his body is.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:52 am
by 9 and 20
This dude looks pudgy and floor-bound. He's the anti-Bilal.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:36 am
by closg00
We traded Gafford for George and he would not have been my pick, he is doughy and possibly fat in few years, lacks twitch and burst, but he can shoot from range and has upside, I like the guys taken after him

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:43 pm
by nate33
I posted a while ago when SUPERBALLMAN was touting George that I thought he reminded me a bit of Nicolas Batum. He is tall, long and can shoot, but he has no quickness or explosion. He can't get any separation at all off the bounce. He had an awful lane agility score (11.90) and 3/4 sprint (3.32)

He had a late growth spurt so he used to play PG, and that gives him pretty good vision and awareness as a connector, but he won't be running pick-and-rolls anytime soon.

Defensively, he has the tools other than being a little slow of foot. Right now, he makes plenty of mistakes as most young players do, and he isn't strong enough to hold up against the big boys, which will improve over time.

Overall, I'd say there's virtually no chance he becomes a star, but there's a fair chance he could develop into a 4th or 5th starter, or at least a rotation player. I would not have been happy with this pick in the lotto, but if you told me we would land him at #24, I don't think I'd be too upset.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:16 pm
by closg00
My thoughts expressed by the analysts, I understand the huge swing by the FO though.

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Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:29 pm
by DCZards
nate33 wrote:However, once we actually got to #24 and I saw some of the other names still on the board, I am a little disappointed. I would have probably taken Terrence Shannon Jr.

I probably would have taken Shannon or Collier. But I think it’s George’s ability to shoot the 3, which is such a valuable commodity in today’s NBA, that led to him being the pick.

It also doesn’t hurt that he’s 6-8…with experience playing PG.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:12 pm
by pcbothwel
DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:However, once we actually got to #24 and I saw some of the other names still on the board, I am a little disappointed. I would have probably taken Terrence Shannon Jr.

I probably would have taken Shannon or Collier. But I think it’s George’s ability to shoot the 3, which is such an important commodity in today’s NBA, that led to him being the pick.

It also doesn’t hurt that he’s 6-8…with experience playing PG.


Clearly we have at type.
Bub and George are both late bloomers with elite positional size, below average athleticism, High IQ, Connectors, Shooters.

So we want big/long players that can shoot and pass and play in chaos. It makes sense if you think Bilal, Sarr, 2025 pick are the "Freaks" and we'll surround them with the Kispert/George/Bub crew of High IQ bucket getters.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:30 pm
by Zonkerbl
Dude's too slow to be a 3 and d. He's a three and flee down the court trying not to get dunked on by faster guys

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:35 pm
by Benjammin
He sort of has a Jared Dudley feel to me.

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Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:40 pm
by nate33
pcbothwel wrote:
DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:However, once we actually got to #24 and I saw some of the other names still on the board, I am a little disappointed. I would have probably taken Terrence Shannon Jr.

I probably would have taken Shannon or Collier. But I think it’s George’s ability to shoot the 3, which is such an important commodity in today’s NBA, that led to him being the pick.

It also doesn’t hurt that he’s 6-8…with experience playing PG.


Clearly we have at type.
Bub and George are both late bloomers with elite positional size, below average athleticism, High IQ, Connectors, Shooters.

So we want big/long players that can shoot and pass and play in chaos. It makes sense if you think Bilal, Sarr, 2025 pick are the "Freaks" and we'll surround them with the Kispert/George/Bub crew of High IQ bucket getters.

I wouldn't characterize Bub as having below average athleticism. I think he is a totally average NBA athlete. He's no Ja Morant, to be sure, but I don't think he is slow-footed either. And whether he measured well in vertical leap or not, he definitely uses it well in game conditions to get separation on his jumper.

George is definitely a below-average athlete. Though that can be mitigated if he plays more 4 than 3.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:58 pm
by FAH1223
This was the pick that I'm not as excited about. I would have doubled down and taken Dadiet and assemble the French national team.

But welcome to DC, Kyshawn. Hopefully all these young guys take lessons from Kispert and get their asses in the weight room.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:03 pm
by NatP4
FAH1223 wrote:This was the pick that I'm not as excited about. I would have doubled down and taken Dadiet and assemble the French national team.

But welcome to DC, Kyshawn. Hopefully all these young guys take lessons from Kispert and get their asses in the weight room.


If Kyshawn was 18, I would probably come around on the pick. He was incredibly unproductive as a 20.5 year old NCAA player. Still obviously like the playmaking, size, and shooting.

You give away #51 to move up and get him, pass on Pacome Dadiet, a player that Sarr has stated on multiple occasions, that he knows personally and would like to play with.

They passed on Dadiet, Dillon Jones, TSJ, Collier, Comche, Christie, Djurisic, KJ Simpson, Johnny Furphy, Tyler Smith, Filipowski, Mogbo and Kolek.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:05 pm
by Frichuela
Something positive about this kid..

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Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:21 pm
by daSwami
closg00 wrote:My thoughts expressed by the analysts, I understand the huge swing by the FO though.


I like this description: "More of an 'idea' than a ready player."

This draft clarifies that our FO values positional size and upside, and I'm fine with that, especially since this is a "development year." (i.e., tank year) anyway. Also, I'm glad our FO has so much confidence in its scouting and player development acumen.

The downside for fans is that we're going have to watch some bad basketball for a few more years.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:25 pm
by NatP4
I guess they see a Cam Johnson type player? Identical height and wingspan measurements.

Cam Johnson age 21 per 40: 14.3 points 5.4 rebounds 2.8 assists 1.1 steals 0.4 blocks 1.4 turnovers 61.4% TS.

Kyshawn George age 20 per 40: 13.2 points 5.3 rebounds 3.8 assists 1.5 steals 0.6 blocks 2.7 turnovers 58.2% TS

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:46 pm
by wewillnevertank
His ceiling is the current version of Risacher, maybe with a touch more playmaking upside.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:51 pm
by Frichuela
NatP4 wrote:I guess they see a Cam Johnson type player? Identical height and wingspan measurements.

Cam Johnson age 21 per 40: 14.3 points 5.4 rebounds 2.8 assists 1.1 steals 0.4 blocks 1.4 turnovers 61.4% TS.

Kyshawn George age 20 per 40: 13.2 points 5.3 rebounds 3.8 assists 1.5 steals 0.6 blocks 2.7 turnovers 58.2% TS


A Cam Johnson clone would be an awesome outcome for the 24th pick.

Like many, I am deeply disappointed about the Deni trade but I can see the rationale of the FO in relation to their draft picks.

Re: Kyshawn George

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:46 pm
by Zonkerbl
C'mon guys Deni was mediocre. 4th starter on a playoff quality team, if that. For a team nowhere near contention, what is the point of keeping him on your squad if a playoff contender is willing to give up equal value in draft picks for him? Assuming we did, get equal value I mean.