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Radio announcer here in NYC was talking about the Shaq trade, they quickly mentioned Arenas as being "actively shopped" along with Vince Carter, Jason Kidd, Jermaine O'Neal, Monta Ellis, Eddy Curry, Szczerbiak, Elton Brand and a few others.

First time I've actually heard this as a supposed reality. The only other guy who surprised me was Ellis.

I hope this isn't true..........luckily NY sportscasters are usually dead wrong in their predictions/assumptions.

Anyone here with connections at MCI Center? Please check on this......I pray it isn't true. What a huge mistake it would be for the franchise. Butler is a #2.......

shopped as in hoping to buy i'm sure, not looking to sell, oh, i guess you can't sell what you don't have....

I'm sure it's not true.

If nothing else, it's impossible to get fair value for Arenas because he has publically declared that he will opt out of his contract this summer.

Also, it's stupid for EG to trade Arenas. Arenas is a very good fit on the roster and he has the superstar personality that can expand the fan base.

The only logical reason for EG to even consider shopping Arenas is if EG has reason to believe that the knee injury will permanently hamper his career.

nate33 wrote:I'm sure it's not true.

If nothing else, it's impossible to get fair value for Arenas because he has publically declared that he will opt out of his contract this summer.

Also, it's stupid for EG to trade Arenas. Arenas is a very good fit on the roster and he has the superstar personality that can expand the fan base.

The only logical reason for EG to even consider shopping Arenas is if EG has reason to believe that the knee injury will permanently hamper his career.

I hear you but after the Gasol/Shaq deals it's hard to dismiss these things.......

But both Gasol and Shaq weren't working in the invironment they're in. They've reached their ceiling whether it's physically or mentally. They need a new surrounding to light their fire again. Arenas is happy here, fits in the set-up, continues to grow.

I don't know, if you can get something dank for him...I'm still unsure to whether or not his knee is gonna be okay. I could see him come back and hurt the knee again.

Well it wouldn't surprise me that a station in NYC got the scoop on Carter and Lee (who are just as blundering as their Rush Hour counterparts) but I don't think that Grunfeld would be actively shopping Arenas. It doesn't mean that he's not taking calls but I don't think that trading Arenas is #1 on his priority list.

But let's say that Grunfeld was desperate to move Gil. What would move him to such a decision? I would have to think that concern about the knee would be a huge part of it, that he's not going to regain the lightning quickness that made him unguardable. Add a questionable knee with a max contract demand and all of a sudden you've got a recipe for a trade.

The thing is that everybody else would know the same things (he's made his opt out public and he's have to go in for a physical). That means that if they did trade for him, it would be a modest package. Unless, of course, somebody was desperate to make a move and was willing to take the risk.

No, if Grunfeld were to consider trading Gilbert it's FAR more likely that it would occur in the offseason. That would give Gil the chance to prove that he's healthy and the organization the chance to see where he fits in with where they want this team to go. It would also be a sign and trade, which would give other team the opportunity to negotiate a max salary without them being under the cap.

baseless rumor

I agree with Nate. The only way this is even plausible is if EG has inside information on Gil's injury and it's severity. If he knows something the rest of the league doesn't about the injury, he may be trying to get at least something valuable for Gilbert, rather than be stuck with nothing in the end.

But the chances of that are remote, and I'm 99.9% sure this rumor has pretty much no legitimacy.

There is one other reason I could imagine. Someone has made an offer that the Wiz have to take seriously . . . (Brand and/or JO package for example), and they want to comparisom shop before making a decision.

Probably just normal GM talk though, I'll believe it if/when I see it.

I don't believe it for one second.

Without Gil, the biggest thing this team lacks is a go-to player who can create his own shot at will and force the defense on its heels. Caron had been admirable in Gil's absense but that's not really his game.

Brand doesn't give us that, trading for JO would be comparable to what the Suns are doing by trading for Shaq. VC is too old and too wishy washy.

The only way I'd trade Gil is for Kobe and that's not an option anymore. Maybe Kevin Durant, but I don't think that's happenning either.

penbeast0 wrote:There is one other reason I could imagine. Someone has made an offer that the Wiz have to take seriously . . . (Brand and/or JO package for example), and they want to comparisom shop before making a decision.

Probably just normal GM talk though, I'll believe it if/when I see it.

JO's having an awful season, has really regressed and is owed a crap-load of money. Can't see that being a legit offer. Brand is just as injured as Gil and we don't really need him with Butler, Jamison, Haywood and Blatche in our lineup. If the deal was Jamison and picks for Brand, then I'd be onboard.

I see your point though. If we were offered something incredible, you'd have to give it thought. I just don't think any GM is going to offer a deal our side wouldn't laugh at, considering Gil's current injury and the fact he's publically stated he will opt out of his contract at the end of this season.

After the Shaq trade, anything's possible.

I don't find this rumor hard to believe.

What if some kind of crazy three-way deal went down that would send Gil to the Clippers, Brand to the Grizzlies, and Lowry, Mike Miller, Kwame's expiring, and a pick to the Wizards?

Memphis would land a stud PF to build around Conley and Gay; the Clippers get get someone with huge marketing potential in Arenas; and the Wizards get defensive pressure at G, scoring at G and SF, cap relief and a pick.

Very far-fetched, but Memphis is looking to deal Lowry and they really don't need Miller and Gay both being primarily SFs. Brand, healthy, would be a better fit for Memphis then either Miller or Arenas.

I'm with you, CCJ. Memphis might do anything, and Lowry and Miller could very well be available for bargain prices. I don't know if there's a deal to be made that makes sense with them, but if I'm EG, I'm working on that right now.

But Gil is going nowhere.

Pecherov for Lowry could work.

It's kinda hard to trade for Miller because they'd be looking for salary releif in return, and we don't have any short contracts. I'd trade Nick Young + Etan for Miller, but I don't see why they would do it.

If I'm Orlando, I'm calling Memphis every day. Orlando has a ton of expiring contracts and a crying need for guard play. Memphis has a ton of guards and needs expiring contracts.

nate33 wrote:If I'm Orlando, I'm calling Memphis every day. Orlando has a ton of expiring contracts and a crying need for guard play. Memphis has a ton of guards and needs expiring contracts.

Isn't Miller pretty much the same as Lewis and Turkgolu? I'm not saying that he wouldn't be an upgrade over guys like Bogans and Dooling, but I think Orlando would try for a more defensive minded player first.

That being said, if they can't do anything else before the deadline, moving their expirings plus Redick for Mike Miller and Kyle Lowry would be a solid deal for them.

nate33 wrote:Pecherov for Lowry could work.

Man I'd be all over that like 'white on rice'. I do think Pech has a role in this league but I don't see him as a starter. I just like Lowry's upside more.

Lowry is such a pitbull defensively I think you could put him out there with Gil and really cause havoc on both sides of the ball and not worry about the lack of size.

Honestly I wish Etan was back and healthy so we could deal Songaila without a second thought.

I wonder would a Songaila / N. Young & Pecherov deal for Lowry & M. Miller be of any interest to Memphis? Would it work cap wise?

Also I'm sure J.J. Redick from Orlando is available on the cheap. He's somebody I'd like to see the Wizards get. I don't think were going to be able to afford Roger Mason next year. Redick is an in-expensive replacement.