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NBA Final Season Awards Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:27 am
by miller31time
Manu Ginobili won 6th man of the Year, unsurprisingly.
Today, it was announced that Kevin Garnett is the Defensive Player of the Year.
That, also, isn't surprising, but take a look at the voting breakdown...
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2007-08 NBA DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR PRESENTED BY KIA MOTORS RESULTS
Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
Kevin Garnett, Boston 90 12 7 493
Marcus Camby, Denver 12 32 22 178
Shane Battier, Boston 11 33 21 175
Bruce Bowen, San Antonio 7 7 24 80
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 10 10 40
Josh Smith, Atlanta 1 6 11 34
Chris Paul, New Orleans 1 4 7 24
Dwight Howard, Orlando 1 4 7 24
Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 6 4 22
Tayshaun Prince, Detroit -- 3 4 13
Tyson Chandler, New Orleans 1 1 2 10
Rasheed Wallace, Detroit -- 3 -- 9
Richard Hamilton, Detroit -- 1 -- 3
Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia -- 1 -- 3
Raja Bell, Phoenix -- 1 -- 3
Rajon Rondo, Boston -- -- -- 1
Chauncey Billups, Detroit -- -- 1 1
Kyle Lowry, Memphis -- -- 1 1
Ron Artest, Sacramento -- -- 1 1
Andrei Kirilenko, Utah -- -- 1 1
It's just a shame how much Duncan is disrespected defensively. I had him 2nd on my DPOTY list.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:29 am
by Wizards2Lottery
chris paul? really??? LOL
rip hamilton?
who are these voters?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:59 am
by TheKingOfVa360
Who gave Kyle Lowry a vote? I demand that the writer who does that is banned from voting for the next 30 years.
Congrats to KG he deserved it but he is just doing what Duncan does every season.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:51 am
by omarvelous
I'm just waiting for Deshawn to shut down Lebron so he can get up on that list.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:31 am
by fishercob
TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Who gave Kyle Lowry a vote? I demand that the writer who does that is banned from voting for the next 30 years.
Congrats to KG he deserved it but he is just doing what Duncan does every season.
You didnt know CCJ had a vote?

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:50 pm
by NbdyBeatsTheWiz
chris paul? really??? LOL
the man led the league in steals by a large margin. not only is he making Kidd look stupid now, but back in March he had
nine steals against him (to go with 31-5-11 and only one turnover, but that's irrelevant to this convo)... and must of those are converted to the alley-oops to Tyson Chandler you see so often on ESPN (does anybody throw more alley-oops than Paul???)
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:27 pm
by Wizards2Lottery
NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:chris paul? really??? LOL
the man led the league in steals by a large margin. not only is he making Kidd look stupid now, but back in March he had
nine steals against him (to go with 31-5-11 and only one turnover, but that's irrelevant to this convo)... and must of those are converted to the alley-oops to Tyson Chandler you see so often on ESPN (does anybody throw more alley-oops than Paul???)
True. He gets a lot of steals. Along with that, someone should show the voters tapes of Paul guarding Deron Williams and see if they still give him a vote

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:36 pm
by miller31time
Steals are great, and Paul is the best in the biz, but they are only one part of defense. Paul is an average to slightly above-average man defender. Then, you have defenders such as Duncan who gets 2+ blocks and nearly a steal per game, AND dominates in terms of man and help defense. Now, who would you rank higher? I mean, I just find it ridiculous how underappreciated he is.
Then there's Camby who gets 3+ blocks and around a steal per game, but is, to be blunt, an average (some even say below average) man defender.
Ugh.... /rant
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:22 pm
by Wiz99
omarvelous wrote:I'm just waiting for Deshawn to shut down Lebron so he can get up on that list.
And you are willing to wait how long for this to come to pass?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:10 pm
by NbdyBeatsTheWiz
just sayin he led the league, which explains why he's on the list. it ain't like he won it.
someone should show the voters tapes of Paul guarding Deron Williams and see if they still give him a vote
yeah, last year in the playoffs i was playing devil's advocate and trying to convince my boy that i'd rather have deron williams than chris paul. this year has convinced me otherwise, but deron really is right on his heels. and yeah, he sure does get up for those matchups with paul.
Then, you have defenders such as Duncan who gets 2+ blocks and nearly a steal per game, AND dominates in terms of man and help defense. Now, who would you rank higher? I mean, I just find it ridiculous how underappreciated he is.
Then there's Camby who gets 3+ blocks and around a steal per game, but is, to be blunt, an average (some even say below average) man defender.
I agree wholeheartedly on Duncan vs. Camby, and you have to look at how much they are helping the team defense. Seeing that Camby is on a team that couldn't stop an 8th grade AAU team from scoring and the Spurs have won games by large margins while shooting well under 40% themselves (not to mention what they did to the Suns last night), Duncan should def get more votes. But then again, in what way is Duncan not underrated? I feel your pain Miller31Time
Re: NBA Final Season Awards Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:36 am
by FreeBalling
miller31time wrote:Manu Ginobili won 6th man of the Year, unsurprisingly.
Today, it was announced that Kevin Garnett is the Defensive Player of the Year.
That, also, isn't surprising, but take a look at the voting breakdown...
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2007-08 NBA DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR PRESENTED BY KIA MOTORS RESULTS
Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
Kevin Garnett, Boston 90 12 7 493
Marcus Camby, Denver 12 32 22 178
Shane Battier, Boston 11 33 21 175
Bruce Bowen, San Antonio 7 7 24 80
Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 10 10 40
Josh Smith, Atlanta 1 6 11 34
Chris Paul, New Orleans 1 4 7 24
Dwight Howard, Orlando 1 4 7 24
Tim Duncan, San Antonio -- 6 4 22
Tayshaun Prince, Detroit -- 3 4 13
Tyson Chandler, New Orleans 1 1 2 10
Rasheed Wallace, Detroit -- 3 -- 9
Richard Hamilton, Detroit -- 1 -- 3
Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia -- 1 -- 3
Raja Bell, Phoenix -- 1 -- 3
Rajon Rondo, Boston -- -- -- 1
Chauncey Billups, Detroit -- -- 1 1
Kyle Lowry, Memphis -- -- 1 1
Ron Artest, Sacramento -- -- 1 1
Andrei Kirilenko, Utah -- -- 1 1
It's just a shame how much Duncan is disrespected defensively. I had him 2nd on my DPOTY list.
I would give Haywood a vote for the best Wizard. Anyone know how far down the list he would be for all the NBA players?
Re: NBA Final Season Awards Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:42 am
by miller31time
FreeBalling wrote:I would give Haywood a vote for the best Wizard. Anyone know how far down the list he would be for all the NBA players?
I don't think he received any votes, but he should have ranked around top 10 or 15.
Re: NBA Final Season Awards Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:09 am
by nate33
FreeBalling wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I would give Haywood a vote for the best Wizard. Anyone know how far down the list he would be for all the NBA players?
Yeah, I'd definitely rank him ahead of a bunch of guys on that list. He's better than Rip, Billups, Kirilenko, Rondo, Bell, and Howard
Re: NBA Final Season Awards Thread
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:00 am
by hands11
FreeBalling wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I would give Haywood a vote for the best Wizard. Anyone know how far down the list he would be for all the NBA players?
Anything below Wallace are garbage votes. Lots of people could get 1 vote.
Haywood could have easily been on that list below Wallace.