OT: Avery Johnson & D'Antoni are goners

yungal07 · Post #1 » by **yungal07** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:37 pm

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... ead_coach/

Another "top" coach gets fired in the West. How does this happen, considering these resepctive coaches have led their teams to 50+ win seasons? Is it fair to judge a coach on his playoff record? Or is this becoming a new trend in the NBA?

Makes you wonder about some of the coaches in the East who still have their jobs...

gil2good · Post #2 » by **gil2good** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:47 pm

bring over d'antoni :pray:

Kanyewest · Post #3 » by **Kanyewest** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:50 pm

Because clearly D'Antoni is a defensive genius...

Qtipp7790 · Post #4 » by **Qtipp7790** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:51 pm

D'antoni would b a great replacement for eddie

jholmbe1 · Post #5 » by **jholmbe1** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:05 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Because clearly D'Antoni is a defensive genius...

D'Antoni was a b.s. suspension away from most likely winning the finals last year. He's being fired because he was force fed a roster (shaq) that did not match his style of play. Keep in mind he led the Suns to best record in the West before the Shaq trade. I'd take D'Antoni in the awful Eastern conference over Eddie any day.

closg00 · Post #6 » by **closg00** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:10 pm

Sign me up of D'Antonio if he getrs fired, at-least he knows how to use his talent.

Spence · Post #7 » by **Spence** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:14 pm

jholmbe1 wrote:D'Antoni was a b.s. suspension away from most likely winning the finals last year. He's being fired because he was force fed a roster (shaq) that did not match his style of play. Keep in mind he led the Suns to best record in the West before the Shaq trade. I'd take D'Antoni in the awful Eastern conference over Eddie any day.

There's quite a bit of confusion about who came up with the idea to trade for Shaq. D'Antoni has said he was completely in support of it and some Phoenix media think it was his idea.

yungal07 · Post #8 » by **yungal07** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:26 pm

Spence wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

There's quite a bit of confusion about who came up with the idea to trade for Shaq. D'Antoni has said he was completely in support of it and some Phoenix media think it was his idea.

that's what i heard on the radio. apparently, d'antoni wanted shawn marion gone pretty badly and was the one who pushed for the shaq trade.

Donkey McDonkerton · Post #9 » by **Donkey McDonkerton** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:27 pm

I could care less about all this talk right now.. WE HAVE A GAME TO WIN!

jholmbe1 · Post #10 » by **jholmbe1** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:28 pm

yungal07 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

that's what i heard on the radio. apparently, d'antoni wanted shawn marion gone pretty badly and was the one who pushed for the shaq trade.

I have heard it go both ways. It would not surprise me if he wanted Marion gone because he was a terrible locker room guy. I also have heard that D'Antoni left Shaq in during times of the Spurs series (hack-a-shaq) to prove a point that the roster Kerr assembled did not work.

Post #11 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:33 pm

Avery Johnson's actions made his firing happen. When your GM acquires Jason Kidd, and you don't use him in the way that makes him effective... I can't begin to understand what Johnson was thinking. His GM didn't get him for Avery to mold him into his system and take away his creativity. And that's a perfect way to lose his players' respect.

NiteOwl · Post #12 » by **NiteOwl** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:57 pm

Lets go the way of the Danny:

Head Coach Offense: Mike D'Antoni
Head Coach Defense: Avery Johnson

keynote · Post #13 » by **keynote** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:05 pm

NiteOwl wrote:Lets go the way of the Danny:

Head Coach Offense: Mike D'Antoni
Head Coach Defense: Avery Johnson

Of course, that's harder to do when you're coaching "2-way" players.

DigitalBullets · Post #14 » by **DigitalBullets** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:12 pm

Ruzious wrote:Avery Johnson's actions made his firing happen. When your GM acquires Jason Kidd, and you don't use him in the way that makes him effective... I can't begin to understand what Johnson was thinking. His GM didn't get him for Avery to mold him into his system and take away his creativity. And that's a perfect way to lose his players' respect.

I don't think blaming Johnson is the right way to think about it.

Simply, Harris fit the system. Kidd did not. Had Kidd have gotten more time, it may have worked. Overall, it was a bonehead move on Cuban's part to acquire him so late just because the Suns and Lakers were making moves. If only owners could be fired too.

Another teams loss could be potentially our big gain. Deep down inside, I'm hoping we tank this last game tonight so EJ gets the boot. I'd take either Johnson or D'Antoni anyday.

Cramer · Post #15 » by **Cramer** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:54 pm

DigitalBullets wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Deep down inside, I'm hoping we tank this last game tonight so EJ gets the boot.

**** pathetic and you probably consider yourself a true fan.

But, at least you're honest about it. I gotta respect. A lot more than a can say about more than a few around here.

DigitalBullets · Post #16 » by **DigitalBullets** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:18 pm

Cramer wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

**** pathetic and you probably consider yourself a true fan.

But, at least you're honest about it. I gotta respect. A lot more than a can say about more than a few around here.

Yep, born and raised in northern VA and still passionately follow the Wiz even though I haven't lived there for years. So yeah, I still consider myself a true fan.

Let's face it, this team isn't very good and even if we pull a miracle comeback to dethrone King James, we're not going to get much further than that. A series win here may only serve as evidence to the Wiz organization to bring EJ back for a few more years, something I think should be sacrificed in this series if we can get a better coach in DC.

Time to start over (again) boys.

(my cynicism should be a clear indication of my Bullets Fever)

Arenas4Three · Post #17 » by **Arenas4Three** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:41 pm

If EJ leaves, WE NEED TO GO AFTER AVERY!

picknrollaction · Post #18 » by **picknrollaction** » Thu May 1, 2008 5:59 pm

Avery is VERY religious,when he played he used to say "Praise the Lord" before every jump ball.Wizards could use all the faith in the world

zardsfan · Post #19 » by **zardsfan** » Sat May 3, 2008 5:21 pm

If Gil stays then D'Antoni may not be the best option.

I seem to remember Gil having a major beef with D'Antoni during the whole Olympic Team USA fiasco.

I might give The Little General a shot at coaching the Zards. He took a Dallas team that played zero defense and improved their defense dramatically 2 years ago.

mohammed10 · Post #20 » by **mohammed10** » Sat May 3, 2008 5:23 pm

zardsfan wrote:If Gil stays then D'Antoni may not be the best option.

I seem to remember Gil having a major beef with D'Antoni during the whole Olympic Team USA fiasco.

I might give The Little General a shot at coaching the Zards. He took a Dallas team that played zero defense and improved their defense dramatically 2 years ago.

Zardsfan:

I agree and have been saying this since the moment Avery was let go by Dallas