Flip Saunders Fired

closg00 · Post #1 » by **closg00** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:05 pm

Breaking on ESPN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3423956

NbdyBeatsTheWiz · Post #2 » by **NbdyBeatsTheWiz** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:10 pm

you can count me out of the inevitable "Fire EJ and hire Flip!" bandwagon...

Soup's Uncle · Post #3 » by **Soup's Uncle** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:12 pm

I'd love to have him as a coach but he'll go to Phoenix or something.

closg00 · Post #4 » by **closg00** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:24 pm

Kudos to Joe Dumars :clap:

Like EJ

, Saunders had one-year remaining on his contract and Joe Dumars could have easily have maintained the status-quo and brought back Flip. Sorry, making it to the ECF wasn't good enough. Great GM, great organization.

MJG · Post #5 » by **MJG** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:16 pm

Never been especially impressed with him. He's kind of like EJ - certainly not bad, certainly not good. I don't have any interest in bringing him on board.

Zerocious · Post #6 » by **Zerocious** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:46 pm

no for me

closg00 · Post #7 » by **closg00** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:51 pm

I had no interest in bringing Flip to Washington, just pointing out that Flip got the Pistons to the ECF several times, yet he could not keep his job.

Ji · Post #8 » by Ji » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:00 pm

closg00 wrote:Kudos to Joe Dumars Like EJ , Saunders had one-year remaining on his contract and Joe Dumars could have easily have maintained the status-quo and brought back Flip. Sorry, making it to the ECF wasn't good enough. Great GM, great organization.

he drafted Darko over Dwayne Wade

Post #9 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:17 pm

Flip to Chicago? I think he'd be a better fit than Collins. Maybe Flip can develop Beasley the same way he developed Garnett.

Post #10 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:20 pm

Joey D has shown quite a propensity to get rid of highly regarded coaches with good records. He's got a great organization, but I'm not sure I'd want to sign up to work for him.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #11 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:30 pm

Definitely an organization that doesn't accept mediocrity. Actually, doesn't even accept near excellence.

Like the move or not, it definitely highlights the difference between the few organizations really in it to win championships and everyone else.

Random poll question: Name your exhaustive list of franchises out there that you think has a realistic chance at a championship over the course of the next 5 years.

Kanyewest · Post #12 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:31 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Flip to Chicago? I think he'd be a better fit than Collins. Maybe Flip can develop Beasley the same way he developed Garnett.

Who wouldn't be a better fit than Doug Collins? Personally, I think Scott Skiles is better than both of them.

yungal07 · Post #13 » by **yungal07** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:37 pm

Another coach better than EJ that gets fired.

No team accepts mediocrity with open arms more than your Washington Gizzards.

Kanyewest · Post #14 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:39 pm

yungal07 wrote:Another coach better than EJ that gets fired.

No team accepts mediocrity with open arms more than your Washington Gizzards.

The Pistons didn't get better firing Larry Brown. It's really not surprising that Flip Saunders could not do well as his predecessor.

Liqourish · Post #15 » by **Liqourish** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:24 pm

Kanyewest wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The Pistons didn't get better firing Larry Brown. It's really not surprising that Flip Saunders could not do well as his predecessor.

To be fair, Larry Brown was looking at other jobs while in the NBA Finals.... but he didn't want to walk away without his money so him and Joe agreed on a buyout, he most certainly was NOT fired.

closg00 · Post #16 » by **closg00** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:59 pm

Ji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

he drafted Darko over Dwayne Wade

True, probably the shame of his life. On-balance, Detroit has a pretty-good draft history of late and they know how to assemble talent given their draft position. They were smart enough to draft Tayshaun Prince over Ared Jeffries :noway:

MJG · Post #17 » by **MJG** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 8:04 pm

Ji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
he drafted Darko over Dwayne Wade

Wade was considered a reach when Miami took him at 5th. Nobody should hold it against Detroit for not taking him 2nd.

Post #18 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 8:07 pm

closg00 wrote:They were smart enough to draft Tayshaun Prince over Ared Jeffries

Actually Jeffries was long gone by the time Detroit picked Pierce.

I think Dumars did well by signing McDyess, letting Wallace walk, quickly erasing the Mohammed mistake, developing Amir Johnson, and by drafting Stuckey/Maxiell. His only gaffe, albeit a huge one, was the Darko pick but even that could have turned out better under a different head coach.

He's kept the cap under control and I think he'll settle on a solid choice to replace Flip Saunders. A true exective of the year candidate year in and year out. I can't wait to see what he does with Rasheed's expiring deal.

Ji · Post #19 » by Ji » Tue Jun 3, 2008 9:05 pm

this is why we suck and they dont. Look at their attitude to losing. Ours is making playoff tee-shirts

Kanyewest · Post #20 » by **Kanyewest** » Tue Jun 3, 2008 9:31 pm

Liqourish wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

To be fair, Larry Brown was looking at other jobs while in the NBA Finals.... but he didn't want to walk away without his money so him and Joe agreed on a buyout, he most certainly was NOT fired.

I guess the Knicks did offer Brown a ludicrous amount of money ($50-60 mil). You're probably right that Larry Brown worked his way out of the Pistons' contract. Although in retrospect, Brown probably should have gotten a raise from the Pistons to keep them intact.