If It's Another First Round Exit...

JordanL · Post #1 » by **JordanL** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:09 am

...and there were not major injury concerns this season, what do you guys think needs to happen?

JWizmentality · Post #2 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:27 am

Hoooo boy, this could get ugly. *puts on hard hat*

closg00 · Post #3 » by **closg00** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:33 am

JordanL wrote:...and there were not major injury concerns this season, what do you guys think needs to happen?

See the Wiz_board thirty thread

FreeBalling · Post #4 » by **FreeBalling** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:49 pm

Dude, it just a game. I wonder why we even keep score.

MJG · Post #5 » by **MJG** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:15 pm

Keep the roster and coaching staff intact for next year's run, because really, we're totally better than Cleveland. If Arenas wasn't sick for game two and LeBron didn't get that BS whistle in game six, we absolutely could have taken the series. Just wait until we play them again next year, you'll see.

queridiculo · Post #6 » by **queridiculo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:34 pm

I don't even care if this team stays relatively injury free or not. If we can't go deep into the playoffs this year it's time for Eddie Jordan to go.

WizBiz · Post #7 » by **WizBiz** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:31 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Hoooo boy, this could get ugly. *puts on hard hat*

mohammed10 · Post #8 » by **mohammed10** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:33 pm

hermitkid wrote:I don't even care if this team stays relatively injury free or not. If we can't go deep into the playoffs this year it's time for Eddie Jordan to go.

+1....actually +35!

Wizboard Dirty Thirty lives!!!

GilArenas88 · Post #9 » by **GilArenas88** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:18 pm

If we have another first round blunder, and Eddie doesn't get fired, I'll shoot myself and all of you can stand behind me. I say at worst this team can except is a toughly fought second round exit, were we were dogged by the refs...

JordanL · Post #10 » by **JordanL** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:31 pm

Was that accept or expect?

Post #11 » by **nate33** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:19 pm

If the team enters the playoff reasonably healthy, (i.e. with the Big Three plus Haywood playing at 90% or better) then we must make the second round. If we don't, then I would advocate firing EJ.

mohammed10 · Post #12 » by **mohammed10** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:40 am

nate33 wrote:If the team enters the playoff reasonably healthy, (i.e. with the Big Three plus Haywood playing at 90% or better) then we must make the second round. If we don't, then I would advocate firing EJ.

nate,

Not to be (too) funny, but I would advocate firing EJ NOW...Avery Johnson is still on the market (hint, hint...)

JordanL · Post #13 » by **JordanL** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:52 pm

So, all the responses have so far been fire EJ. No one thinks that the team would need to be retooled?

Post #14 » by **nate33** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:50 pm

JordanL wrote:So, all the responses have so far been fire EJ. No one thinks that the team would need to be retooled?

Most of us advocate the Big Trade in 2009 Strategy whereby we trade the soon-to-be expiring contracts of AD and Etan, plus some combination of picks and prospects (Young, Pecherov, McGee) for a good-but-overpaid star who might become available. I'm thinking of guys like Joe Johnson, Vince Carter and Andrei Kirilenko. We can certainly hope that a Pau Gasol situation happens and we are the beneficiaries, but those kinds of deals require more luck than skill.

Short of that kind of deal, I don't see much retooling that would help us. Arenas and Jamison don't have much trade value given their expensive contracts. Likewise, Haywood and Blatche have extraordinarily cheap contracts for what they can bring to the table. It's unlikely we'd get fair value (contractwise) for them either. And Stevenson is worth more to us than to another team because of the way we're put together, so he won't be traded.

That leaves only Caron Butler. He's the one guy whose trade value is very high and might actually get us equivalent value in a trade. Of course, Butler is the heart and soul of the team and nobody wants to see him go, so that's probably not gonna happen either.

Basically, we're not trading any of our starters. We can look to trade youth and expirings for a star, but that's the only trade that I could envision that would help us.

Post #15 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:23 pm

nate33 wrote:If the team enters the playoff reasonably healthy, (i.e. with the Big Three plus Haywood playing at 90% or better) then we must make the second round. If we don't, then I would advocate firing EJ.

Unfortunately, the odds of those 4 all being healthy in the post season... not real good. There's a better chance of a dozen federal bailouts of financial institutions by playoff time.

Methinks EJ is being set up to fail.

adarsh1 · Post #16 » by **adarsh1** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:02 am

Fire EJ
Trade Jamison, Haywood, Blatche, Pecherov, Songaila, Daniels.

Keep Arenas
Butler
McGee
Young

Rebuild with that core

Wizards2Lottery · Post #17 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:12 pm

If its another first round exit...

Eddie Jordan will be back. Ernie Grunfeld will not make major changes. Jamison will never play defense. Butler will miss 20+ games a season. Arenas knees will never be the same. And the same brain washed, blindfolded fans will talk this team as if its the second coming of the 60's Celtics.

Kanyewest · Post #18 » by **Kanyewest** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:49 pm

^^ I don't think you'll find many fans that think the Wizards are championship contenders with this roster even if they had Phil Jackson as their head coach.

Post #19 » by **VintaGe36** » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:38 am

I'm an advocate of trading Arenas NOW.

Sure it MIGHT bite us in the butt, but our team as currently constructed, isn't winning anything.

I say trade Gil and Jamison, and get what we can.

Suck this year, and add a lottery talent,

and rebuild from there.