Poll-Do you like the trade of Foye/Miller for 5th

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I didn't even know CCJ was such a Pecherov fan until yesterday. Literally. The only thing I remember from CCJ concerning Pecherov before yesterday is "we should have drafted Milsapp instead." I guess he was a bigger Pech fan than we all thought.

Neither did I, yungal.

Seriously, it's the pick that Pecherov should have returned in trade, that's got me going. I still view Pecherov as a potential asset. Even prior to this deal the day Flip was hired I thought Blatche and or Pecherov would break out. SOMETHING would be different under Flip.

It's the pick that Pecherov should have fetched.... Had the Wizards got the #18 I wouldn't even think the deal was bad at all.

[dobrojim]

crackhed, you've answered what Spence brought up as for my fixation with Pecherov. I've seen this too often. Detroit dumped Okur when they later could have used him as a significant contributor. That's what I foresee Pecherov becoming.

jimij, I agree that he's probably not a quality starter ever. But even Millsap's not that.

What I'm looking at is Ernie drafted Pecherov and dumped him. Your point jimij as to EG having done that for EJ and the Princeton could very well be valid. But I see him doing what the Timberwolves are doing with Foye (the guy they traded Roy for)--admitting a mistake. Only I don't think Pecherov at 18 is all that bad now, 4 years down the road, because I think now's about the time that type player comes into his own. Bargnani broke out after Mitchell was canned. (Note, Bargnani's not a good starter. I think he's a good role player, however.) Looking at Pecherov I think that even Darius had to play in Europe at that age. No way should people totally write off OPEC just yet. Wizard should have gotten that #28 or something else for Pecherov.

I'm really curious to see how Pecherov turns out, now.

The Pistons did not dump Mehmet Okur. They simply could not match the $50 million offer that the Jazz gave him.

that was my recollection as well. Okur was/is a good player who was in the right
place at the right time. And he got paid. And he continued to do well, or even better
since he became a starter. DET simply couldn't keep him even though I suspect they
would have love to have been able to. The other bench/rotation guy they lost was
Corliss who also benefited in a right place/time deal. But he was on the downward
slope and Okur was on the upside.

[Ruzious]

I didn't even know CCJ was such a Pecherov fan until yesterday. Literally. The only thing I remember from CCJ concerning Pecherov before yesterday is "we should have drafted Milsapp instead." I guess he was a bigger Pech fan than we all thought.

Neither did I, yungal.

Seriously, it's the pick that Pecherov should have returned in trade, that's got me going. I still view Pecherov as a potential asset. Even prior to this deal the day Flip was hired I thought Blatche and or Pecherov would break out. SOMETHING would be different under Flip.

It's the pick that Pecherov should have fetched.... Had the Wizards got the #18 I wouldn't even think the deal was bad at all.

But can you have it both ways? Can you - on hand 1 say he was a bad pick while - on hand 2 say he had big-time potential - so it was foolish to trade him? Answer - yes, because you're the man.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, Pech was a bad pick for the first three years in the same way Etan's contract was bad up until this season. Timing is everything.

What Dat said in the "Wizards have traded the 5th Pick" thread is true. Both contracts had value this season.

I'm not at all trying to have it both ways on Pecherov. Wizards should have got if not the #18, the #28. That or dealt with another team that could give them a Lowry-like PG.

[fishercob]

Ruz, Pech was a bad pick for the first three years in the same way Etan's contract was bad up until this season. Timing is everything.

What Dat said in the "Wizards have traded the 5th Pick" thread is true. Both contracts had value this season.

I'm not at all trying to have it both ways on Pecherov. Wizards should have got if not the #18, the #28. That or dealt with another team that could give them a Lowry-like PG.

CCJ, let's make some sort of friendly wager involving good natured public humiliation -- as to whether or not Minny re-signs Pesh next year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, Pech was a bad pick for the first three years in the same way Etan's contract was bad up until this season. Timing is everything.

What Dat said in the "Wizards have traded the 5th Pick" thread is true. Both contracts had value this season.

I'm not at all trying to have it both ways on Pecherov. Wizards should have got if not the #18, the #28. That or dealt with another team that could give them a Lowry-like PG.

CCJ, let's make some sort of friendly wager involving good natured public humiliation -- as to whether or not Minny re-signs Pesh next year.

Hmmmm, after all my banter I'm squemish. Bad sign.

fisher, what if they don't sign him and Pecherov goes La Bomba on us and gets Euroleague honors? What if Pecherov plays well for the Timberwolves (70% says he will as far as I'm concerned) but doesn't re-sign. That still doesn't mean he gets a better offer elsewhere.

What if?