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Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09

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Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#1 » by Zerocious » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:23 pm

Game Thread :cry:

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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#2 » by LyricalRico » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:29 pm

Probably a back to back 40pt night for Durant and a Wiz loss. But as long as Jamison still gets 20 & 10, we're still on track for a trade.

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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#3 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:48 pm

I predict 45 minutes for Gil. 41 for Butler. 40 for Jamison. That's the safest thing to predict with any surety.

Harden had the big game last time OKC won. I'm thinking Westbrook. Then again, what's Durant's career high? Also, Ibaka could have a career night.

Wizards are just not equipped to do that well, but their main guys will get minutes and FGAs.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#4 » by dlts20 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:00 pm

I think unless we are dead tired, then we win and Gil may go for 40. I think are fans cry way too much about minutes. 1st of all, go look at the old Pistons minutes with and without Flip. They had there core and all of them played big minutes. Pretty much every star in the league plays big minutes and we have 3 all stars. On top of that, its not like Flip wants to do it. He feels like me. The game just goes differently when they are on the bench. Im like, Gil is tired so let him sit. He sits and a minute later Im like, hurry up and bring Gil back. Sure enough Flip does it because we start getting behind. It will be better when Miller gets back but people are overreacting. The minutes really arent even that hight if you really look at it. The Pistons guys were playing just as much and they had alot more blowouts then us so if they never had them then they would be playing more then our guys.

Anyways, the Thunder start a slow no Defense Center and Jeff Green at the 4. Drive to the basket. If we attack the rim and stay aggressive then we will live in the paint, get easy layups, and live at the FT line. The last game we played them was bad. It was a horrible matchup as we had no one to put up against Durant, which forced us to double & zone him up, which left all there other scorers open. Our record doesnt show it but we are a better team now than we were then and the Gil they saw that night was way worst than this Gil. He can match Durant if he's up for it
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#5 » by JWizmentality » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:01 pm

Blow this b*tch up. Build around Gil and the young ones. At least Arenas has shown he's coachable and he's getting his consistency back. Twan and Grape Drink can kiss my ass.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#6 » by queridiculo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:23 pm

I predicted a win, followed by a loss that would kick of a 5 game losing streak. Scratch that, this will be loss no. 2 en route to the third 6 game losing streak this season.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#7 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:50 pm

Couldnt get into the chat. Anyone have another room link ?
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#8 » by Zerocious » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:52 pm

hands11 wrote:Couldnt get into the chat. Anyone have another room link ?


hands, read the chat thread, i'll bump it for you
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#9 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:53 pm

Check it
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/12/29/mapp ... nside-out/

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Do any teams have woeful shot selections based on location? Only one team takes fewer shots near the rim than Washington, yet the Wizards sit in the bottom dozen in three-pointer attempt frequency. What gives? Blame it on a set of players (Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison and Andray Blatche, to name three) more likely to fire mid-range twos than to shoot threes or get to the rim. Flip Saunders has cursed Washington's shot selection repeatedly, and that surely has more to do with the level of contention those shots receive from opponents than location, but the team's shot selection profile based on location sure isn't showing the offense is set up for success. A talent change will be needed for the profile to be fixed (though obviously actual offensive performance is more important than the shot selection profile).
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#10 » by queridiculo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:56 pm

Wow Donkey, that's a real eye opener. I keep yelling for us to attack the rim more but I didn't think it was this bad.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#11 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:59 pm

hermitkid wrote:Wow Donkey, that's a real eye opener. I keep yelling for us to attack the rim more but I didn't think it was this bad.


We havent attacked the rim since Jeff Ruland.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#12 » by DaRealHibachi » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:01 am

The jumpshot... We live and die by it... Sure do allot of dying this season, oh well...

I don't want to root for a loss, but this team made me lose my mind last night... The more we lose, the sooner we'll see some trades or rotation changes...

Ernie ain't stupid (I hope) and neither is Saunders (I hope)... They can't let this shotjacking, no D playing, jabstepping, over-dribbling, jumpshooting, no driving, no passing, turnover prone, weak mentally, non caring, weak finishing, for more shots whining excuse of a team to go on for much longer....
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#13 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:04 am

Thats a nice chart. Its no surprise Houston and Sacramento are overachieving as much as anyone according to their talent level, while Washington is underachieving
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#14 » by hands11 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:06 am

DaRealHibachi wrote:The jumpshot... We live and die by it... Sure do allot of dying this season, oh well...

I don't want to root for a loss, but this team made me lose my mind last night... The more we lose, the sooner we'll see some trades or rotation changes...

Ernie ain't stupid (I hope) and neither is Saunders (I hope)... They can't let this shotjacking, no D playing, jabstepping, over-dribbling, jumpshooting, no driving, no passing, turnover prone, weak mentally, non caring, weak finishing, for more shots whining excuse of a team to go on for much longer....


Of all those things, athleticism and tough minded are keys. Its been like that. Even back when we were winning during the season.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#15 » by MJG » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:07 am

So, no threes, nor any shots at the rim. Mmm, tastes like Wizards!
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#16 » by miller31time » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:13 am

LyricalRico wrote:Probably a back to back 40pt night for Durant and a Wiz loss. But as long as Jamison still gets 20 & 10, we're still on track for a trade.

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I don't think we'll have any problems unloading Jamison, Lyrical, whether he plays good or bad. Cleveland wants him and we want Z's contract. It's just about when our front office is ready to give it up.
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#17 » by Gau Pasol » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:21 am

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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#18 » by Hoopalotta » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:10 am

Wow, who the hell are these guys? They're tenacious out there.

Blatche in particular has been great with this extended look. Lets see more going forward!
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Re: Really, do we care? Saunders vs Brooks GT 12/29/09 

Post#19 » by Zerocious » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:15 am

Hoopalotta wrote:Wow, who the hell are these guys? They're tenacious out there.

Blatche in particular has been great with this extended look. Lets see more going forward!


can we get an appearance in the chat there hoopa?
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Post#20 » by Hoopalotta » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:22 am

Yeah, I was unable to register for some reason. I'll keep trying.
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