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This is a 2pt thread but you can just read the 1st part to hear the main point of the topic. The 2nd part is just other crap I added, lol



Ofcourse we will do some things but Im speaking of no real moves. Leauge sources said that we werent going to extend Howard anyways but we could resign him at a lesser price. Add to that I think he likes it here, he knows Gil will be coming back, and I could see him thinking about signing a cheap 1yr deal where he plays well and gets one last big contract the following year. He probably thinks he can put up numbers here. So if we dont make any real moves and come back with a starting 5 of Gil, Howard, Miller, Blatche, and McGee. Then we come off the bench with whatever guard, Thorton, and Singelton. How good do you think that team is? Just to give us our best chance I will add in Gil looking healthy in his 2nd year back from the injury and Blatche having a great offseason.


The reason I made this thread is because of me reading this on ESPN:


It's worth noting, though, that veteran Wiz-watcher David Aldridge of TNT and NBA.com threw out an interesting theory earlier in the week, suggesting that Leonsis could choose to preserve most of Washington's newfound cap space until the summer of 2011. That's when Baltimore native Carmelo Anthony headlines free agency.
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I also heard someone say that on another board about us going after Melo that year. I was thinking that was a long shot and a risk but then I started to think more about it. To me there is really Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Amare, Boozer, and then everyone else. There is basically no chance in hell that Wade or Lebron comes here. Then those bigs are great but they are all 4's which means either them or Blatche would have to play the 5. Do we really want to do that every game? Then add on that IDK if any of those bigs truly fit with us. There are some other guys like Joe Johnson but I think if its anyone other then those 1st names I mentioned then you will be overpaying just for the sake of it and Id rather save it than overpay for someone we dont really want anyways. Then I was thinking about Melo. I was like, Denver is good but they arent going to beat LA in the West this year. There is just no way and they may get knocked off by someone else. So do you really think they will be better next year when Billups & K-Mart are a year older?

Then you have young teams like the Thunder, Blazers, and Grizz will be alot better. Thats not including vetran teams like LA, Dallas, SA, Utah, and Houston with Yao back. I think Denver will actually regress next year which will frustrate Melo as he doesnt see a title in sight. He will be a FA and most of the teams with the big cap space will have shot there load in this offseson. You then have us being his home team, Gil all the way back, and Blatche & McGee ready to take off that following year. Gil even plays with Melo alot in the offseason. I honestly wouldnt be upset with letting the young guys get the playing time again and I think it will be easier on them with Howard & Gil back. We can add a young piece in this draft and in next year's draft which will attact Melo some more. I think we will look very attactive to him by that time and I think he would love to play in the East.

PART 2


Add to that if we play the way we did when we 1st made the trades then we could still win some games next year, espically if we keep the ball movement. I would only have 2 big worries. 1 is that Howard was the perfect fit but I still felt he was gunning some and would probably do it even more next year when he's trying to score a big contract and saw that we didnt make any major moves. He also may not be the same after another injury which would be a disaster. My 2nd worry is Gil. Again, I think he will be a beast next year in Orlando and I think he would be a beast next year in Philly with EJ, but Im not sure if he will be dominant in Flip's system. I just dont like the way its designed for the PG spot. I get on Foye some but when I really think about it, he doesnt look too different from Gil. I think you are limited in this system at the point. You get assist but they are mostly basic assist from passing to guys off curls or screens or off the pick & roll. Your only scoring chances come off the pick & roll and its basically only that quick J off the screen. What else do you see Foye do? Gil was the same way. Its cool for Billups because thats his game and even with Foye he likes to shoot that but its not really Gil's game. Gil wants to attack off that pick or clear space for an open long 3.

That doesnt happened in this system. Flip doesnt run it like any other coach in the league. He never runs a "tight" pick. Its loose. No one talks about it but thats a big deal to me. That means the PG never gets one on one with the big. Thats how guys like Gil, Wade, and Lebron kill teams. Gil use to get real tight with Wood and sometimes would even grab his jersey so when Wood sets the screen then Gil is one on one with the big and will either beat him for the bucket, get fouled, or force the D to help and then he kicks it out for the open J. If the guard tried to be slick and go under the screen then Gil had an open 3. If you watch Flip's picks, the big is always like 3ft away from the PG and our PG always goes sideways instead of going forward. In half the plays our big leaves before he even really sets the screen. This basically makes it so easy for the defensive guard to recover and get in front. To me its designed more for a basic PG and a beast PF because in most cases you are always going to give it back to the big to post up or just shoot that quick jumper 2 off the screen that Foye always shoots. Thats really all you can do as the PG. Then Gil gets frustrated and tries to force a drive from the top of the key but the way our O is spread it makes it so easy for the whole D to lock on Gil so that even when he beats his guy, the rest of the D shuts him off in the lane easy and makes it a tough shot.

Its messed up because you can see that its a good O now when ran the right way but IDK if I see Gil ever having big consistent scoring nights. Im not even saying I want him to but I dont know if he could eihter way. The only way he's going to go off is if his J is super hot. Like I dont know if he could win a game by himself like in the past. He will be more dependant now even if fully healthy. With that being said he still just averaged 23 and wouldve probably averaged 28 on 45% shooting if he made his layups & FT's so all of it is just hard to say. I think the O will be smoother next year with Blatche having touches in the post where he can always be one on one because no one will leave Gil, Howard, or Miller. Then when they do double, we can eat it up. I would like to try it and then add Melo the following year when Blatche, McGee, and Melo will be the best frontcourt in the league

Basically Im asking in my own DLT type way can we win enough games next year to make the playoffs or atleast satisfy our fans on the future if we keep the same group while also bringing back Gil, Howard, and adding our draft picks?

dlts20 wrote:Basically Im asking in my own DLT type way can we win enough games next year to make the playoffs or atleast satisfy our fans on the future if we keep the same group while also bringing back Gil, Howard, and adding our draft picks?

Won't Josh Howard likely be out until mid-season, making him a poor risk to pick up his option? Even with him, the idea that this group would have enough juice to make the playoffs is extremely unlikely. Whether their performance would satisfy fans on the future is so subjective, but I would think if the team plays its young players and they play hard with some semblance of discipline and focus, a lot of fans would appreciate that.

If Howard is resigned and gets healthy by December (both unlikely), and Arenas comes back, and we sign a stopgap veteran center for one year (I'm thinking Brad Miller); I think this team could make the playoffs.

It really depends on Arenas and McGee.

If Arenas plays like he did the last 15 games here, while also managing to move the ball and keep others involved, then we might even win 45 games. On the other hand, the chemistry could completely fall apart with Arenas dominating the ball - even if Arenas plays well.

And McGee needs to get a lot better on post defense. We can't go through a season in which we're forced to write off every game against a good low post center. Unless McGee gets better, we will lose every game against Orlando, Memphis, LA Lakers, LA Clippers, Milwaukee and Houston. That's 15 losses right there. It's tough to win 45 games when you are spotting yourself 15 losses.

Wow.

MELO IS NOT COMING HERE.

This team has a better chance signing LeBron. There is plenty of players in the NBA from the DC area, and most should know damn well better than to sign here.

As long as Carmelo is part of Brand Jordan, there will be NO Carmelo in DC. Do you not realize that MJ surely holds grudges? Why do you think Charles Barkley has been bad mouthing the Wizards non-stop since 2003? Why do you think it's so hard for our players to get respect from the officials?

Carmelo is not coming here.

If we don't make any moves, Miller won't be part of this team... Singleton won't be a part either, and to be honest, out of all our (R)FA's, he's the only one I'd resign...

Our team would look like this;

Gil
Young/Ross
Thornton
Blatche
McGee

Gil, Dray & Thornton will win us some games, but I think this team might be too inconsistent and we'll miss that 8th seed by a couple games... Or make the playoffs and get kicked out in the 1st round...

On the other hand, I think if we have a good draft (like Cousins/Aldrich & Anderson) and resign Singleton, get a young PG (Lowry, Chalmers) and another big body (at the 4/5 spot), playoffs should be well within our reach... We can also sign Joe Johnson and trade Young...

Our 2010/2011 Lineup:

Gil/(Lowry or Chalmers)
Johnson (or Young)/Anderson/Ross
Thornton/Johnson/Anderson/Singleton
Blatche/Singleton/Big Body
Cousins (or Aldrich)/McGee/Big Body

We can go deep in the playoffs with this team...

nate33 wrote:It really depends on Arenas and McGee.

As lowly as my position is on this board, I feel the need to correct the authoritative source of all basketball related discussion.

The Wiz success next year depends on four things:

1) How do the ping pong balls fall?
2) Arenas returning and playing like he did over the last 15 games of this season
3) Blatche proving that this hot streak is for real and continue to effectively average 20/10/3/2ish
4) McGee improving every facet of his game, most notibly post defense

Also, by adding a draft pick this year and next year the Wiz will not have sufficient cap space after the 2010/2011 season to sign a max player. We also need to consider the new CBA, which will probably enforce a hard cap. At that point signing Melo would be irrational and impossible.

I'd add a fifth item (although its tied to ping pong balls somewhat). I think we need a legit 2 guard next year. Miller and Howard will most likely both be gone and NY is NOT the answer. Wall or Turner in the draft would be phenomenal but if that doesn't happen we need to sign a veteran guard IMO. Doesn't need to be a star, but someone who can contribute.

Gilbert by himself wins us 20 games

I could see us being an 8th seed

maybe this comment should go in the FA thread but Boozer is not a guy
I'd pay high dollar for. Joe Johnson maybe. The other guys, sure but
chances are they ain't comin' here.

Before Howard got hurt I really liked the makeup of the team and
felt like if Gil came back, ego in check, and we got a halfway decent
draft pick, we'd be pretty solid. Somewhere between 6-4 depending
on the above mentioned variables (Gil, 7DD, McGee, draft pick). 4 seed
being unlikely except in the event of the 'perfect storm' which is what
I thought was going to happen this year

If we go into next year with Arenas/Miller(or Foye)/Thornton/Blatche/McGee?

I could see about 30-35 wins. That might be generous, though.

DaRealHibachi wrote:If we don't make any moves, Miller won't be part of this team... Singleton won't be a part either, and to be honest, out of all our (R)FA's, he's the only one I'd resign...

Our team would look like this;

Gil
Young/Ross
Thornton
Blatche
McGee

Gil, Dray & Thornton will win us some games, but I think this team might be too inconsistent and we'll miss that 8th seed by a couple games... Or make the playoffs and get kicked out in the 1st round...

On the other hand, I think if we have a good draft (like Cousins/Aldrich & Anderson) and resign Singleton, get a young PG (Lowry, Chalmers) and another big body (at the 4/5 spot), playoffs should be well within our reach... We can also sign Joe Johnson and trade Young...

Our 2010/2011 Lineup:

Gil/(Lowry or Chalmers)
Johnson (or Young)/Anderson/Ross
Thornton/Johnson/Anderson/Singleton
Blatche/Singleton/Big Body
Cousins (or Aldrich)/McGee/Big Body

We can go deep in the playoffs with this team...

How dare you correct a board elder. Off with his head!

Yeah, I'm with you and miller. Remember GS - Biedrins and Randolph were going to be the best new tagteam up front since the Hart Foundation - combining them with Steve and Steph (or Jackson and Curry) and all-star Ellis, and they were going to be a breakout team this season. Well, they're awful now and need more time. I don't want a goal of making the playoffs - and if we make basically no moves, we probably won't make the playoffs.

DaRealHibachi wrote:If we don't make any moves, Miller won't be part of this team... Singleton won't be a part either, and to be honest, out of all our (R)FA's, he's the only one I'd resign...

Our team would look like this;

Gil
Young/Ross
Thornton
Blatche
McGee

Gil, Dray & Thornton will win us some games, but I think this team might be too inconsistent and we'll miss that 8th seed by a couple games... Or make the playoffs and get kicked out in the 1st round...

On the other hand, I think if we have a good draft (like Cousins/Aldrich & Anderson) and resign Singleton, get a young PG (Lowry, Chalmers) and another big body (at the 4/5 spot), playoffs should be well within our reach... We can also sign Joe Johnson and trade Young...

Our 2010/2011 Lineup:

Gil/(Lowry or Chalmers)
Johnson (or Young)/Anderson/Ross
Thornton/Johnson/Anderson/Singleton
Blatche/Singleton/Big Body
Cousins (or Aldrich)/McGee/Big Body

We can go deep in the playoffs with this team...

I totally disagree. Who is Singelton? He's been rotting on the bench forever. You think he would go to a top notch team just to rot again? I think he would definitely want to stay here. I also could see Miller staying just because he likes the area and is that type of guy. Me personally, Im not big on Johnson like everyone else is. I think that he thinks he's an elite but really isnt