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“We actually put him on the big kid for (three) possessions just to show our big guys that he is guardable,” Self said, “because certainly none of our big guys guarded him worth a flip.”

The next three defensive possessions went like this:

■ 6:23 left: Benimon tried to drive against Wiggins, had his angle shut down, then attempted a pass into traffic that was stolen by KU’s Joel Embiid.

■ 5:52 left: Benimon put up a shot-fake from three, had a baseline drive cut off by Wiggins, then a drive to his right blocked off before losing control of the ball and picking it up to pass to a teammate.

■ 4:28 left: Benimon had a loose-ball rebound bounce into his arms about 18 feet from the basket. Noticing that Wiggins was in a defensive stance in front of him, he didn’t even look to the basket, immediately passing to a teammate.

Wiggins checked out after that, but in those two minutes he had made his point.

Xepa777 wrote:1) NCAA success doesn't translate to NBA success. Andrew Morrison.

2) One of Wiggin's best traits is his defense, which isn't on the box score. Quote here.

“We actually put him on the big kid for (three) possessions just to show our big guys that he is guardable,” Self said, “because certainly none of our big guys guarded him worth a flip.”

The next three defensive possessions went like this:

■ 6:23 left: Benimon tried to drive against Wiggins, had his angle shut down, then attempted a pass into traffic that was stolen by KU’s Joel Embiid.

■ 5:52 left: Benimon put up a shot-fake from three, had a baseline drive cut off by Wiggins, then a drive to his right blocked off before losing control of the ball and picking it up to pass to a teammate.

■ 4:28 left: Benimon had a loose-ball rebound bounce into his arms about 18 feet from the basket. Noticing that Wiggins was in a defensive stance in front of him, he didn’t even look to the basket, immediately passing to a teammate.

Wiggins checked out after that, but in those two minutes he had made his point.

3) He has the potential to be a transformational player with his work ethic, humility, ambition, and freak genetics. No one is saying he's the best player right now.

4) He's putting up identical stats to Michael Jordan in his freshman year. Chill out.

CablexDeadpool wrote:LOL but Andrew Wiggins is the next Tmac

But Andrew Wiggins is the next Paul George

Lets cut the BS...

Star wing players handle the ball. Star wing players are secondary ball handler. Star wing players are 1st options on offense.

Damn these excuses...but "he plays defense" but "it's Bill Self"

How about he just don't got the skills. He isn't Paul George because Paul George could shoot it. He isn't Tmac because Tmac can handle it. He isn't even Gerald Green because Gerald Green could shoot it.

He's looking like Victor Oladipo but bigger.

AJ Valliant wrote: Clearly he's played himself out of the lottery. I just hope he can get on a D-leauge team somewhere to develop some semblance of fundamentals. Maybe in a few years he can be a bench guy for a bad European team. Thank god I had you to scrub the lies of experts out of my brain.

AJ Valliant wrote:Hyperbole aside, Wiggins is playing up and down in a somewhat restrictive system, and it is early in the season. Why not wait until he's in the Tourney before we put a long term cap on his NBA potential? Is it really so valuable to stake out your claim as the first doubter that you can't wait for a proper sample size?

CablexDeadpool wrote:

AJ Valliant wrote:Hyperbole aside, Wiggins is playing up and down in a somewhat restrictive system, and it is early in the season. Why not wait until he's in the Tourney before we put a long term cap on his NBA potential? Is it really so valuable to stake out your claim as the first doubter that you can't wait for a proper sample size?

Nah, I just don't get the appeal of Wiggins outside of his athleticism and his defensive potential.

His offense creating ability just isn't there for me as compared to other guards and forward like an Exum and a Parker.