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sleeper teams

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 7:03 am
by Griff83
pick two teams you think can make a good run in the tournament that not many people will talk about.

1. Baylor

Lots of good guards in Jerrels, Tweety Carter and Lacedarius Dunn and can really shoot the three well as a team. They play tough late in games with a heady player in Jerrels. If they get a good draw they could really be a factor.

2.USC

Tons of talent and a star player in Mayo who could get you a few rounds if he catches fire. Have some tournament experiance from last year with Hackett and Gibson. They are playing very good basketball right and have been tested hard in the tough Pac 10 this season.

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:08 pm
by Cammo101
USC is too good and too known to be a sleeper. Miami, VCU, Winthrop, Alabama are all sleeper teams I like come tourny time.

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:26 pm
by Griff83
Cammo101 wrote:USC is too good and too known to be a sleeper. Miami, VCU, Winthrop, Alabama are all sleeper teams I like come tourny time.


Alabama? are they even going to make the tournament?

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:50 pm
by Polynice4Pippen
Mississippi State and UMass.

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 7:53 pm
by big3_8_19_21
Drake...because I go there

Posted: Sun Mar 9, 2008 11:22 pm
by bill curley II
Cammo101 wrote:USC is too good and too known to be a sleeper. Miami, VCU, Winthrop, Alabama are all sleeper teams I like come tourny time.


Alabama probably won't make the NIT. Don't know what you're thinking was there, or if you were just blabbing random teams.

Your post was in the morning, so it's excusable. But VCU probably won't make it either with their semifinal loss to William & Mary.

Agreed though about USC. Unless the OP is predicting at least an elite 8 spot for them, they should be about a 5-7 seed, so getting all the way to the sweet 16 isn't anything mind blowing.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:44 am
by bigballa3jj
maybe he meant south alabama?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:59 pm
by PhilipNelsonFan
I think my Ducks could do some real damage in the tournament (as long as they make it in, and they should), but so as not to be a homer I'll also go with Mississippi State. I can see them upsetting a team in the first round.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:49 pm
by -G-
Notre Dame to the Final 4.

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:58 pm
by bigballa3jj
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:I think my Ducks could do some real damage in the tournament (as long as they make it in, and they should), but so as not to be a homer I'll also go with Mississippi State. I can see them upsetting a team in the first round.



Oregon could do damage in one of those 5/12 matchups

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:01 pm
by Cammo101
bigballa3jj wrote:maybe he meant south alabama?


I deffinately did mean South Alabama. My mind does not always work so good.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:10 pm
by mizzoupacers
I like Davidson's chances of winning a game, maybe even two if things really break right. Their losses early in the year were mostly pretty close losses on the road against really good teams, and they haven't lost since December.

George Mason is going to be like a #13 or even #14 seed, and they're a pretty good team for that low. I could see them pulling off a first-round upset.

And I agree with whoever said Baylor--good guards, and an athletic big guy too, they could go on a run if it all comes together.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:33 pm
by JN
Cammo101 wrote:USC is too good and too known to be a sleeper. Miami, VCU, Winthrop, Alabama are all sleeper teams I like come tourny time.


So a 6 seed making the elite eight or final four would not be a "sleeper"????

Why would a comparable team from a BCS program then be considered a sleeper?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:34 pm
by PhilipNelsonFan
Do you honestly believe they'll make the Elite Eight? I see USC struggling into the Sweet Sixteen before a top seed mercifully beats them.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:34 pm
by JN
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:Do you honestly believe they'll make the Elite Eight? I see USC struggling into the Sweet Sixteen before a top seed mercifully beats them.


It depends what there bracket comes up with, but my answer would be noo. Then again I didn't say they were a sleeper.

I only expect there to be 1, maximum of 2, six seeds or below making the sweet 16.

This is not the year to pick upsets.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:38 pm
by JN
PhilipNelsonFan wrote:I think my Ducks could do some real damage in the tournament (as long as they make it in, and they should), but so as not to be a homer I'll also go with Mississippi State. I can see them upsetting a team in the first round.


Mississippi St will likely be somewhere between a 6 to 9 seed, depending on how the week goes. There not really a first round upset.

Do you think they are capable of winning a game against a 1, 2 or 3 seed in round two?

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:46 pm
by JN
mizzoupacers wrote:I like Davidson's chances of winning a game, maybe even two if things really break right. Their losses early in the year were mostly pretty close losses on the road against really good teams, and they haven't lost since December.



Davidson, lost to Duke and UNC at home.

Here is a list of non-tournament teams that have played just as well against Duke or NC at home this year:
Boston College
Virginia
Maryland
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest (won)
Florida St (OT)
NC St

They also had a lead at UCLA during the second half and ended up getting beaten by 12 points, so to me that is not that impressive.

To me there is nothing overly impressive there. Alot of average teams have played Duke and UNC tough on there home floors.

But here's the depressing part the rest of the OOC schedule for Davidson

Wins : North Carolina Central

Losses : at Western Michgigan, at Charlotte, at NC St.

It would have been nice to win one game against somebody out of conference that we had actually heard of (NC Central must be a new member of D1)

To me that hardly qualifies as that impressive. The 23-0 run in the Southern Conference was impressive, and alot of 20+ plus convincing wins, but I can't get to excited about Davidson.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:52 pm
by bill curley II
JN wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



It depends what there bracket comes up with, but my answer would be noo. Then again I didn't say they were a sleeper.

I only expect there to be 1, maximum of 2, six seeds or below making the sweet 16.

This is not the year to pick upsets.


I think that this is a year where we'll see a lot of upsets. I think the four number 1's, along with Kansas and Duke are pretty solid teams, but starting with Texas and down, I think those teams have some serious flaws that a lower ranked team could exploit depending on matchups.

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:06 pm
by JN
bill curley II wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think that this is a year where we'll see a lot of upsets. I think the four number 1's, along with Kansas and Duke are pretty solid teams, but starting with Texas and down, I think those teams have some serious flaws that a lower ranked team could exploit depending on matchups.



Its hard to argue that two, three and four seeds have serious flaws when there resumes are much better then comparable seeds in the past (there have been more dominant schools this year then normal).

And the bubble is also much weaker then normal. These bubble teams have no clue how to win on the road.

I just don't think there will be many upsets this year.

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:24 am
by Polynice4Pippen
JN wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Mississippi St will likely be somewhere between a 6 to 9 seed, depending on how the week goes. There not really a first round upset.

Do you think they are capable of winning a game against a 1, 2 or 3 seed in round two?


I think it's definitely possible for Mississippi State to make a Sweet 16 run. They have an absolutely dynamic lead guard who can light it up with the best of them and a human eraser in the paint who could intimidate a team into settling for a bunch a bad perimeter shots. They certainly have the ingredients for a possible postseason run.