VC4Pres 2010 Mock 1st Round Updated 6/24/2010

[vincecarter4pres]

Updated 5/26/2010

1. Washington Wizards - John Wall
2. Philadelphia 76ers - Evan Turner
3. New Jersey Nets - Derrick Favors
4. Minnesota Timberwolves - DeMarcus Cousins
5. Sacramento Kings - Greg Monroe
6. Golden State Warriors - Wesley Johnson
7. Detroit Pistons - Ed Davis
8. Los Angeles Clippers - Al Farouq Aminu
9. Utah Jazz - Cole Aldrich
10. Indianna Pacers - Ekpe Udoh
11. New Orleans Hornets - Paul George
12. Memphis Grizzlies - Patrick Patterson
13. Toronto Raptors - Hassan Whiteside
14. Houston Rockets - Donatas Monteijunas
15. Milwaukee Bucks - Xavier Henry
16. Minnesota Timberwolves - James Anderson
17. Chicago Bulls - Gordon Hayward
18. Miami Heat - Eric Bledsoe
19. Boston Celtics - Luke Babbitt
20. San Antonio Spurs - Elliot Williams
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevin Seraphin
22. Portland Trailblazers - Daniel Orton
23. Minnesota Timberwolves - Avery Bradley
24. Atlanta Hawks - Solomon Alabi
25. Memphis Grizzlies - Willie Warren
26. Oklahoma City Thunder - Damion James
27. New Jersey Nets - Terrico White
28. Memphis Grizzlies - Larry Sanders
29. Orlando Magic - Jordan Crawford
30. Washington Wizards - Devin Ebanks
31. New Jersey Nets - Armon Johnson

[RTM]

I think Detroit would have to think long and hard about nabbing Aminu if he were still on the board at 7. Ed Davis certainly fits the description of what Joe is looking for a little better, but he's rumored to have liked Aminu since last year, and he's clearly the BPA at that spot, IMO.

I don't see the Kings wanting Monroe at 5, I'm not sold on the Patterson pick at 12 (I bet Memphis picks a wing) and I don't think Orton will make it past OKC, but nothing else jumps out at me.

[vincecarter4pres]

I could see Memphis going with Henry in that spot for sure, but I felt Patterson was a lot of value for them and provides some much needed punch at the 4 spot off the bench.

Monroe is iffy I guess, but besides trading back I'm not sure I see any other pick at that slot.
I know Wes looks to be a very nice player, but they're so overloaded at the wings and I don't see this star prospect in him that others do. Monroe is arguably right on par with Johnson as a prospect even though Johnson is the better player right now.

I guess I could see Detroit going after Aminu, but just think they have more pressing needs at the 4 and 5 and Davis is arguably the same level prospect as Al Farouq with a lot more upside then Cole Aldrich. I could still see this pick being moved, possibly in the often talked of Al Jeff deal, but I can't exactly predict the future and this is how I see it if it plays out as is with picks.

Orton is a guy I see free falling. IMO, he sucks and is a major project. I don't see any justification in him declaring this year. Reminds me a lot of DeAndre Jordan's story.
I think teams will wind up seeing it that way as well and in a draft so deep with bigs, why take someone so high just because they measured out well, yet were out of shape?

[RTM]

Chad Ford is generally spot on with Detroit's picks (he reported Stuckey and Daye from the start), and he says the Pistons aren't really interested in Cole (this in his latest mock). So you can throw him out as a possibility. He listed Monroe, Davis and Udoh as our primary targets (also in his latest mock), but he had Aminu off the board before our pick, and has mentioned multiple times previously Joe's interest in him (mentioned in his previous mock).

So assuming we don't trade up and Cousins doesn't fall, Aminu, Davis, Udoh, and Monroe are our targets, though I'm not sure what the pecking order is.

[RTM]

And FWIW, I haven't heard many actual sources talking about a Prince/7 for Al deal. That's mostly something agreed upon here on RealGM.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Minny moves Love instead of Al, as they liked the Al/Darko combo late in the season. And since Al isn't exactly a good defender or tough player, I'm not even sure he's who Joe would target. He seems to really be stressing toughness and character.

[vincecarter4pres]

And FWIW, I haven't heard many actual sources talking about a Prince/7 for Al deal. That's mostly something agreed upon here on RealGM.

I know, but it definitely seems to make some sense.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Minny moves Love instead of Al, as they liked the Al/Darko combo late in the season. And since Al isn't exactly a good defender or tough player, I'm not even sure he's who Joe would target. He seems to really be stressing toughness and character.

Well, there's a good chance that Love can bring back more value as well, so I could see that.
Al Jeff might not even command value of the 7th pick and an expiring.
Hell, maybe Joe D can swing a trade of the 7th pick for Kevin Love instead?

Should be an interesting draft with the potential for a lot of movement, so mocks are going to be pretty hard to get right this year, as if they're easy any year.

[Jersey Generals]

Who do you like more, Vince, Babbitt or Hayward?

[vincecarter4pres]

Who do you like more, Vince, Babbitt or Hayward?

Stay away from me mock competition, I mean comrade!

Honestly, Im not sure, but I lean towards Luke...

[shangrila]

I don't think New Orleans would go for a guy like George. I see them looking more for big man depth and while I don't always agree with the man, Ford seems to agree. Guys like Montie and Whiteside could be good long term picks but if they want to win right away, which they should, they'd probably take a look at Patterson too. Although if they do go wing I think they'd go by the same formula and grab someone who can compete right away, like Henry.

I think if he's there and both George and Henry are off the board Minnesota would go with Babbitt at 16. With the way he's tested athletically and his skills I could see them liking him in their system. In that scenario they'd probably go for a shooting guard later on as well, which could be what you meant by having them draft Bradley but I think they'd go after a White, Crawford or even someone like Stephenson at 23.

[djthesonicsfan]

No chance Presti passes on Orton if he's there at #21. And I also think either the Raptors, Rockets or Heat will likely take Orton before Presti has the chance.

Damion James is certainly possible at #26, but I like Pondexter a bit more. Maybe it's because I've seen him play & grow so much over the years. Stanley Robinson is also a possibility.

Should be a legit player available at #32 as well... Jarvis Varnado, Armon Johnson, Gani Lawal & Craig Brackens are all possibilities there.

[vincecarter4pres]

No chance Presti passes on Orton if he's there at #21. And I also think either the Raptors, Rockets or Heat will likely take Orton before Presti has the chance.

What's the big allure with Orton?
I find it amusing that he has the nerve to even enter this draft.

Damion James is certainly possible at #26, but I like Pondexter a bit more. Maybe it's because I've seen him play & grow so much over the years. Stanley Robinson is also a possibility.

Certainly, all three are possibilities.

Should be a legit player available at #32 as well... Jarvis Varnado, Armon Johnson, Gani Lawal & Craig Brackens are all possibilities there.

There definitely should be some legit players available pretty deep into the second round this year, but I don't mock the second round until very close to draft time.
I only included the 31st pick because I am a Nets fan.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't think New Orleans would go for a guy like George. I see them looking more for big man depth and while I don't always agree with the man, Ford seems to agree. Guys like Montie and Whiteside could be good long term picks but if they want to win right away, which they should, they'd probably take a look at Patterson too. Although if they do go wing I think they'd go by the same formula and grab someone who can compete right away, like Henry.

They might go for a big man, I just have a feeling they're going to go with an athletic wing who's a good shooter from deep and has a lot of defensive potential.
Paul George fit all these criteria.

I think if he's there and both George and Henry are off the board Minnesota would go with Babbitt at 16. With the way he's tested athletically and his skills I could see them liking him in their system.

I could see that. I think I have Babbitt too low in this update. I like him better then Anderson for sure, I am not a fan of Anderson. Anderson can play the 2 though and contrary to stuff I have recently been seeing in depth charts, Brewer is not a guard IMHO.

In that scenario they'd probably go for a shooting guard later on as well, which could be what you meant by having them draft Bradley but I think they'd go after a White, Crawford or even someone like Stephenson at 23.

Stephenson just isn't that good.
Terrico White I could see for sure, I kind of cheated because I wanted him to fall to NJ.
I don't think Crawford gets taken over Bradley. Even having said that about my placement of White, I still see Bradley going over him as well, GM's are enamored with, "potential".

[vincecarter4pres]

Updated 6/15/2010

1. Washington Wizards - John Wall
2. Philadelphia 76ers - Evan Turner
3. New Jersey Nets - Derrick Favors
4. Minnesota Timberwolves - DeMarcus Cousins
5. Sacremento Kings - Greg Monroe
6. Golden State Warriors - Wesley Johnson
7. Detroit Pistons - Al Farouq Aminu
8. Los Angeles Clippers - Paul George
9. Utah Jazz - Ekpe Udoh
10. Indianna Pacers - Ed Davis
11. New Orleans Hornets - Patrick Patterson
12. Memphis Grizzlies - Luke Babbitt
13. Toronto Raptors - Hassan Whiteside
14. Houston Rockets - Cole Aldrich
15. Milwaukee Bucks - Xavier Henry
16. Minnesota Timberwolves - James Anderson
17. Chicago Bulls - Elliot Williams
18. Miami Heat - Avery Bradley
19. Boston Celtics - Gordon Hayward
20. San Antonio Spurs - Larry Sanders
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevin Seraphin
22. Portland Trailblazers - Armon Johnson
23. Minnesota Timberwolves - Terrico White
24. Atlanta Hawks - Solomon Alabi
25. Memphis Grizzlies - Eric Bledsoe
26. Oklahoma City Thunder - Daniel Orton
27. New Jersey Nets - Mikhail Torrance
28. Memphis Grizzlies - Damion James
29. Orlando Magic - Jordan Crawford
30. Washington Wizards - Willie Warren

31. New Jersey Nets - Darington Hobson

[shangrila]

I could see that. I think I have Babbitt too low in this update. I like him better then Anderson for sure, I am not a fan of Anderson. Anderson can play the 2 though and contrary to stuff I have recently been seeing in depth charts, Brewer is not a guard IMHO.

Brewer started and played at SG for the entire year, so it's not just a depth chart thing. And if he puts on weight I'll agree he's better suited to SF. Not so sure about Anderson defensively in the league but if the draft turns out like a few mocks have with all 3 of Babbitt, George and Henry gone I could see Minnesota going for Anderson there, although draftexpress has him going to Minnesota at 23 which makes sense combined with the rumours that he hasn't been working out well, but I still see Chicago taking a flier on him.

Stephenson just isn't that good.
Terrico White I could see for sure, I kind of cheated because I wanted him to fall to NJ.
I don't think Crawford gets taken over Bradley. Even having said that about my placement of White, I still see Bradley going over him as well, GM's are enamored with, "potential".

Stephenson has some skills, but you're right and when I said someone like Stephenson I kind of meant reaching on a guy who might surprise some people there. Guys like Hobson might have been better.

As for Bradley, I think he's got a legitimate chance of going to teams like Toronto or Houston, so I agree with you that Crawford won't get picked before him. White is practically all potential too, so there's that as well.

[vincecarter4pres]

Updated 6/24/2010 This May Be the Last One Yall!

1. Washington Wizards - John Wall
2. Philadelphia 76ers - Evan Turner
3. New Jersey Nets - Derrick Favors
4. Minnesota Timberwolves - DeMarcus Cousins
5. Sacremento Kings - Greg Monroe
6. Golden State Warriors - Wesley Johnson
7. Detroit Pistons - Al Farouq Aminu
8. Los Angeles Clippers - Paul George
9. Utah Jazz - Ekpe Udoh
10. Indianna Pacers - Ed Davis
11. New Orleans Hornets - Luke Babbitt
12. Memphis Grizzlies - Xavier Henry
13. Toronto Raptors - Eric Bledsoe
14. Houston Rockets - Cole Aldrich
15. Milwaukee Bucks - Patrick Patterson
16. Minnesota Timberwolves - Gordon Hayward
17. Washington Wizards - Hassan Whiteside
18. Oklahoma City Thunder - Larry Sanders
19. Boston Celtics - Elliot Williams
20. San Antonio Spurs - Avery Bradley
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Kevin Seraphin
22. Portland Trailblazers - Armon Johnson
23. Minnesota Timberwolves - James Anderson
24. Atlanta Hawks - Dominique Jones
25. Memphis Grizzlies - Craig Brackins
26. Oklahoma City Thunder - Tibor Pleiss
27. New Jersey Nets - Jordan Crawford
28. Memphis Grizzlies - Damion James
29. Orlando Magic - Terrico White
30. Washington Wizards - Willie Warren

31. New Jersey Nets - Mikhail Torrance



Man I hate giving my team Crawford...