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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#21 » by The Beam King » Tue May 10, 2011 2:53 pm

Silver Man wrote:Don't get me wrong I like Klay Thompson, but do you really think he'll go 10th?

Anyways I like the Kings going with Knight if they end up with the 5th.

Yeah, I cant see Klay getting picked before Jimmer, whether that's justifiable or not. I don't see it happening.
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Post#22 » by RTM » Tue May 10, 2011 3:12 pm

I have a feeling both of the Morris twins will end up going higher than that.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#23 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 5:49 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:I don't think Cory Joseph is going to drop past the Knicks.

Haha, dude I swear to god I was thinking the same thing but my Knick hate forced my hand and gave them the Jimmer! :lol:

Update, believe me, I'll put my bias aside if Joseph is even that low.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#24 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 5:52 pm

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Silver Man wrote:Don't get me wrong I like Klay Thompson, but do you really think he'll go 10th?

Anyways I like the Kings going with Knight if they end up with the 5th.

Yeah, I cant see Klay getting picked before Jimmer, whether that's justifiable or not. I don't see it happening.

Jimmer is so overrated.

I think his scoring will translate to an extent in the pros, but he's not a real point guard by any means(even a shoot first type) and his defense is going to be just putrid, he'll make guys like Ben Gordon and Steve Nash look like Iguodala.

He needs to be a current Jason Terry and although that's certainly a valuable and important player, Klay Thompson has the more legitimate skill set and measures to be true to his position and IMHO is a strong starter waiting to happen.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#25 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 5:54 pm

RTM wrote:I have a feeling both of the Morris twins will end up going higher than that.

I think you're right about Marcus, although I don't know I agree with it being the right call.

Markieff is probably right where he should be, although again, I could see him going a touch higher.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#26 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 5:57 pm

djthesonicsfan wrote:I hope you're right about Singleton to the notSonics. Frankly, I don't think he will still be there at 24. I'd be content if we got Honeycutt or Harris.

Meh, I would be a lot happier with Honeycutt or Harris if I was you.

I'm sorry, I just don't see it with Singleton. Almost reminds be of Ebanks, who I think will be out of the league or the same as he is now, an end of the bench situational guy.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#27 » by Jazzfan12 » Tue May 10, 2011 6:07 pm

I can't see Walker going seven spots after Knight, he's a superior prospect.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#28 » by Dr Positivity » Tue May 10, 2011 6:22 pm

Looks pretty good except the Klay Thompson pick as mentioned. I think a team in Milwaukee's position especially will be looking to either roll the dice on a potential star or take a fit at PF. Klay is basically Carlos Delfino
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#29 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 7:52 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:Looks pretty good except the Klay Thompson pick as mentioned. I think a team in Milwaukee's position especially will be looking to either roll the dice on a potential star or take a fit at PF. Klay is basically Carlos Delfino

I think Klay has a lot more potential then a scrubby shooter who can't especially shoot.

He has the ability to handle the ball and make things happen, draws a decent amount of fouls and gets out in transition, but he's also very good off the ball and let's be serious here, his jumper is just water and his range is ridiculous.

The only potential stars I see at that point would be Kemba Walker, Cory Joseph and Jordan Hamilton and with Milwaukee having Jennings I don't know I see the point in bringing in another gunner who happens to be undersized. I don't know if GM's see Cory Joseph in the light I do and nothing about Hamilton screams superior prospect to Klay to me and Hamilton is strictly a 3 where as you could plug Klay in at either wing even though he's more a shooting guard.

Klay has star potential himself, I'm just waiting for the majority to admit it.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#30 » by BigSlam » Tue May 10, 2011 8:26 pm

I really like what you have done here vincecarter4pres. It's a well thought out, balanced mock.

Not sure about Tristan Thompson to the Bobcats at #9 though - not after they just jacked all that coin into Tyrus Thomas, a guy who is a very similar player to Thompson.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#31 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 8:54 pm

BigSlam wrote:I really like what you have done here vincecarter4pres. It's a well thought out, balanced mock.

Not sure about Tristan Thompson to the Bobcats at #9 though - not after they just jacked all that coin into Tyrus Thomas, a guy who is a very similar player to Thompson.

The Bobcats were one of my toughest decisions in the whole mock.

I felt like Tristan or Klay was the highest upside pick in this spot, along with Cory Joseph, but I didn't know, you know?

I absolutely thought about the Tyrus Thomas angle and how a current Thompson shares a lot of similarities.

I thought it's way too early to put Joseph that high and I don't see him ever making it that high. Preseason I really thought Joseph would go top ten, but after an underwhelming season I think he's going to be this draft's Jrue Holiday.

Klay Thompson I weighed back and forth on, but it just doesn't feel like a Jordan/Higgins pick.

I could see Marcus Morris or Jordan Hamilton in that spot.

Maybe they even take the plunge and go with an out of nowhere pick like Reggie Jackson, but I don't see him going that high, nor the Cats making a serious outside the box pick like that.

They also don't seem like the type to take a raw underperforming Euro.

For now I'll stand by the Tristan Thompson pick.

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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#32 » by BigSlam » Tue May 10, 2011 9:14 pm

I could totally see them consider Klay Thompson at #9 with our need for scoring. I also think that Kawhi Leonard would be a real possibility there too - especially considering how he shot the ball today in Vegas. Hamilton does fit need and position wise too.

Agree with MJ and Higgins staying away from a raw underperforming Euro. Can't see them selling the fans on that one!

For the #19 pick, I like the idea of having a close to the basket scorer to play behind Tyrus - so a guy luike Jordan Williams would be perfect IMO.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#33 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 9:29 pm

I don't see them passing on Cory Joseph if makes it past the Knicks.

I'm stunned that he hasn't been getting any attention from mock sites and even posters on here, especially since he's decided to declare and stay in.

Kid has tremendous upside. Like perennial top 10 point guard potential.

Great feel for the game, underrated athleticism, good court vision, tight handle, legit height and length, fast, good first step, solid shooter, plays well off the ball, solid BBIQ, plays good defense, can get out in transition, he's the total package.

Just needs to put on a little weight without weighing himself down and keep putting in work and this kid has enormous potential and I think he's a can't miss above average starter within 3 seasons even if he doesn't live up to my lofty expectations.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#34 » by Cammo101 » Wed May 11, 2011 12:14 am

I like the mock, but I am not sure about Washington taking a raw center at #4 when they need help at SG, SF, and PF. Wall and McGee are their core guys and I would be SHOCKED if they took a center....especially a guy not ready to play now and maybe not even willing to come to the NBA now.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#35 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed May 11, 2011 2:20 am

Cammo101 wrote:I like the mock, but I am not sure about Washington taking a raw center at #4 when they need help at SG, SF, and PF. Wall and McGee are their core guys and I would be SHOCKED if they took a center....especially a guy not ready to play now and maybe not even willing to come to the NBA now.

I agree that he might not be the right pick, but from everything I've heard McGee is far from a core player in Washington, he's just a young guy they have with some talent who they would trade for a good player in a heartbeat if the situation presents itself.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#36 » by TrueWarrior » Wed May 11, 2011 4:10 am

Wouldnt surprise me to see the Knicks take Jimmer, but I think he'll be gone and I believe Reggie Jackson is going to be our guy if we want a PG. A perfect student for Billups to groom. I see alot of Jrue Holiday in Jackson. He can also play some SG with that huge wingspan of his. Overall I think Reggie is going to go top 20 at the latest.

1. Reggie Jackson
2. Markieff Morris
3. Klay Thompson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Darius Morris
6. Justin Harper

Out of guys who might be there at #17 thats how Id go for the Knicks. We need an NBA ready guy and these fit the bill. We might also target Vucevic and Benson if we buy another pick. I dont see Cory Joseph going that high though.

Solid mock overall. Wheres Nogueira?
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#37 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 11, 2011 5:29 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:I like the mock, but I am not sure about Washington taking a raw center at #4 when they need help at SG, SF, and PF. Wall and McGee are their core guys and I would be SHOCKED if they took a center....especially a guy not ready to play now and maybe not even willing to come to the NBA now.

I agree that he might not be the right pick, but from everything I've heard McGee is far from a core player in Washington, he's just a young guy they have with some talent who they would trade for a good player in a heartbeat if the situation presents itself.


Also it wouldn't surprise me if Val is a PF, if he gets that 15-20 foot jumper (which his FT% seems to indicate he will) and doesn't bulk up
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#38 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu May 12, 2011 4:03 am

TrueWarrior wrote:Wouldnt surprise me to see the Knicks take Jimmer, but I think he'll be gone and I believe Reggie Jackson is going to be our guy if we want a PG. A perfect student for Billups to groom. I see alot of Jrue Holiday in Jackson. He can also play some SG with that huge wingspan of his. Overall I think Reggie is going to go top 20 at the latest.

1. Reggie Jackson
2. Markieff Morris
3. Klay Thompson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Darius Morris
6. Justin Harper

Out of guys who might be there at #17 thats how Id go for the Knicks. We need an NBA ready guy and these fit the bill. We might also target Vucevic and Benson if we buy another pick. I dont see Cory Joseph going that high though.

Solid mock overall. Wheres Nogueira?

I like Reggie Jackson, I could see him moving up for sure.

I could see the Knicks taking him too.

But I don't think they would take him over Joseph and don't think they should.

As for Nogueira, I know very little about him and are we even sure he's not going to pull out?
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Re: Updated June 22nd - Full First Round 2011 

Post#39 » by vincecarter4pres » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:07 am

Updated June 22nd 2011

1. Cleveland Cavaliers - Kyrie Irving
2. Minnesota Timberwolves - Derrick Williams
3. Utah Jazz - Enes Kanter
4. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jonas Valanciunas
5. Toronto Raptors - Brandon Knight
6. Washington Wizards - Klay Thompson
7. Sacramento Kings - Kawhi Leonard
8. Detroit Pistons - Kemba Walker
9. Charlotte Bobcats - Alec Burks
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Jan Vesely
11. Golden State Warriors - Tristan Thompson
12. Utah Jazz - Jimmer Fredette
13. Phoenix Suns - Marshon Brooks
14. Houston Rockets - Bismack Biyombo
15. Indiana Pacers - Marcus Morris
16. Philadelphia 76ers - Jordan Hamilton
17. New York Knicks - Nikola Vucevic
18. Washington Wizards - Markieff Morris
19. Charlotte Bobcats - Chris Singelton
20. Minnesota Timberwolves - Iman Shumpert
21. Portland Trailblazers - Donatas Moteijunas
22. Denver Nuggets - Kenneth Faried
23. Houston Rockets - Reggie Jackson
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - Nikola Mirotic
25. Boston Celtics - Tyler Honeycutt
26. Dallas Mavericks - Darius Morris
27. New Jersey Nets - Justin Harper
28. Chicago Bulls - David Betrans
29. San Antonio Spurs - Cory Joseph
30. Chicago Bulls - Nolan Smith

36. New Jersey Nets - David Lighty
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