Doordoor's 2016 mock

[ElectricMayhem]

Baynes has fit the Drummond backup role you described to a T so there is no need at the C position for Detroit. Besides, I think Davis is too much of a project for where Detroit is at.

[doordoor123]

Baynes has fit the Drummond backup role you described to a T so there is no need at the C position for Detroit. Besides, I think Davis is too much of a project for where Detroit is at.

Detroit is done rebuilding and wants to compete now. They aren't going to get a player that can help right away in the draft because I think they would rather do that through free agency. While Baynes fits his role right now, he's not the long term option. Deyonta Davis is a guy that can grow and will likely be at the end of the bench on any team he goes to his first year (especially if it's a team trying to be a playoff contender). He's also good insurance if anything were to happen to either Drummond or Baynes.

[wickerhd]

Doubt that the Celtics take a guard in the top 5, but if they do, it would be Buddy. Gotta believe they'll take a sf or a big


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[doordoor123]

Doubt that the Celtics take a guard in the top 5, but if they do, it would be Buddy. Gotta believe they'll take a sf or a big


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My theory behind that is that they want the best player available -- even if that means grabbing a guard. They're already a top four or five team in the East and if they want to make that extra push anyone that is going to help them immediately they'll either get through free agency or a trade. And they would pick Murray over Hield because of age and upside. Murray is also a creator (something that Hield isn't as much yet). 19-22 is a big age difference and players that are 22 and not as athletic rarely ever get picked that high. Everyone is afraid of another Adam Morrison.

[doordoor123]

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[doordoor123]

My newest MOCK V1

1. Philadelphia 76ers: Ben Simmons

2. Los Angeles Lakers: Brandon Ingram

3. Boston Celtics: Kris Dunn (Likely traded)

4. Phoenix Suns: Marquese Chriss

5. Minnesota Timberwolves: Dragan Bender

6. New Orleans Pelicans: Jamal Murray

7. Denver Nuggets: Jaylen Brown

8. Sacramento Kings: Buddy Hield

9. Toronto Raptors: Domantas Sabonis

10. Milwaukee Bucks: Denzel Valentine

11. Orlando Magic: Thon Maker

12. Utah Jazz: Henry Ellenson (Likely traded)

13. Phoenix Suns: Furkan Korkmaz

14. Chicago Bulls: Dejounte Murray

15. Denver Nuggets: Wade Baldwin IV

16. Boston Celtics: Jakob Poeltl

17. Memphis Grizzlies: DeAndre Bembry

18. Detroit Pistons: Cheick Diallo

19. Denver Nuggets: Ivica Zubac (Likely traded)

20. Indiana Pacers: Damian Jones

21. Atlanta Hawks: Skal Labissiere

22. Charlotte Hornets: Malik Beasley

23. Boston Celtics: Taurean Prince

24. Philadelphia 76ers: Malachi Richardson

25. Los Angeles Clippers: Robert Carter Jr.

26. Philadelphia 76ers: Demetrius Jackson

27. Toronto Raptors: Juan Hernangomez (Likely traded)

28. Phoenix Suns: Stephen Zimmerman

29. San Antonio Spurs: Patrick McCaw

30. Golden State Warriors: Deyonta Davis

NEXT 10 IN: AJ Hammons, Timothe Luwawu, Caris LeVert, Kahlil Felder,
Georgios Papagiannis, Brice Johnson, Ben Bentil, Chinanu Onuaku,
Zhou Qi, Guerschon Yabusele

[TarHeels15]

Just wondering, do you think Tim Luwawu will actually fall out of the 1st round or is that just your personal feelings on him? You also have Robert Carter Jr. ahead of other PF's that seem to be ranked well ahead of him in most rankings like Deyonta Davis and Brice Johnson, is that personal opinion?

I'm also curious, why do you, as do many other people, seem to have Sabonis locked in to the Raptors? I know they need an upgrade at PF, but I feel like with Kevin Love (as well others including the Raptors PF's) struggling defensively against guards, teams will shy away from guys that may not have the length and quickness to guard smaller players on switches. I think Sabonis will be pretty good defensively in a traditional PF role, but with the NBA of today I think he might get exposed some.

[doordoor123]

Just wondering, do you think Tim Luwawu will actually fall out of the 1st round or is that just your personal feelings on him? You also have Robert Carter Jr. ahead of other PF's that seem to be ranked well ahead of him in most rankings like Deyonta Davis and Brice Johnson, is that personal opinion?

I'm also curious, why do you, as do many other people, seem to have Sabonis locked in to the Raptors? I know they need an upgrade at PF, but I feel like with Kevin Love (as well others including the Raptors PF's) struggling defensively against guards, teams will shy away from guys that may not have the length and quickness to guard smaller players on switches. I think Sabonis will be pretty good defensively in a traditional PF role, but with the NBA of today I think he might get exposed some.

I think Luwawu only falls out of the first because he's a 21 year old project if a lot of ifs. While I think he should be a lottery pick, when teams are actually picking players I think it's possible he slides out (only because it's a deep group).

Robert Carter Jr is ready right now, he knows his role and he is a good passer. He also plays defense. Why I put him over Bentil and Siakam. The Clippers are also looking for someone that can produce right now. Doc also likes to pick proven players from big schools.

Sabonis is all over the place with me. Scouts are saying they see upside in him and that he's deceptively explosive. He can also apparently hit threes. If all of that is true he's a starting PF right now and the Raptors need one.

[Gremz]

If Davis is there at 20, the Pacers wouldn't hesitate to snatch him up. Still can't see him falling that far though.

[illastrate]

I don't see the Clippers passing on Demetrius Jackson if he's there at 25. They have no true PG behind CP3, so it seems like he fills an obvious need.

[skywalker33]

Davis won't fall to #30, guaranteed !!

[doordoor123]

I don't see the Clippers passing on Demetrius Jackson if he's there at 25. They have no true PG behind CP3, so it seems like he fills an obvious need.

Point guard is the deepest position in the league. With Austin Rivers likely coming back, I don't think they pick a PG. Even if they wanted a better guy to play point, there will be older guys available. I watch every Clippers game and it seems to me that Doc has been looking for a guy to play between Blake, DeAndre and can stretch the floor. Doc also likes guys that are proven and have had some success. Robert Carter Jr. seems like a guy Doc wouldnt be afraid to plug in right away (which is rare for Doc). Out of all the stretch PFs available, Carter seems like the most ready to contribute right now. It also helps that he is able to defend the wing, unlike Siakam.

I could see Jackson going higher because there aren't a lot of point guards here, but I also think point guards aren't very valuable in a draft like this unless you're getting a really good point guard. Otherwise there are point guard free agents that have been taken in the first round in the past that will be on the market. The most valuable position here is the defending 3/4s and there aren't a lot of them. Also shooters and rim protectors. It's the reason I have Deyonta Davis sliding all the way to 30. I'd rather take Stephen Zimmerman, Juan Hernangomez, Skal Labissiere, Damian Jones, Ivica Zubac, Cheick Diallo, Jakob Poeltl, Henry Ellenson, Thon Maker and Domantas Sabonis over him. Robert Carter Jr. is more about fit for the Clippers because if Doc is picking in the late 20s, he's looking for someone who can come in right away to help and I'm pretty sure Davis would be in the D-league on Docs team. I don't even have Ante Zizic in here, who is arguably better than Davis. Both he AND Stone didn't make the first round of my mock. I tried to take need into account and what kind of players these teams will be looking for.

[doordoor123]

Revised a bunch: V2

1. Philadelphia 76ers: Ben Simmons

2. Los Angeles Lakers: Brandon Ingram

3. Boston Celtics: Kris Dunn (Likely traded)

4. Phoenix Suns: Marquese Chriss

5. Minnesota Timberwolves: Dragan Bender

6. New Orleans Pelicans: Jamal Murray

7. Denver Nuggets: Jaylen Brown

8. Sacramento Kings: Buddy Hield

9. Toronto Raptors: Jakob Poeltl

10. Milwaukee Bucks: Wade Baldwin IV

11. Orlando Magic: Skal Labissiere

12. Utah Jazz: Furkan Korkmaz (Likely traded)

13. Phoenix Suns: Thon Maker

14. Chicago Bulls: Deyonta Davis

15. Denver Nuggets: Henry Ellenson (Likely traded)

16. Boston Celtics: Malachi Richardson

17. Memphis Grizzlies: Malik Beasley

18. Detroit Pistons: Demetrius Jackson

19. Denver Nuggets: Timothe Luwawu (Likely traded)

20. Indiana Pacers: Domantas Sabonis

21. Atlanta Hawks: Denzel Valentine

22. Charlotte Hornets: Ivica Zubac

23. Boston Celtics: Cheick Diallo

24. Philadelphia 76ers: Dejounte Murray

25. Los Angeles Clippers: Taurean Prince [Doc has been trying to find a 3/4 that can stretch the floor and he seems to have found recently (Jeff Green/Paul Pierce) good ones don't grow on trees. Prince is a defender at the 3 right away, he's a good passer and he can develop more of a 4 game as he plays with Rivers.]

26. Philadelphia 76ers: Patrick McCaw [76ers need shooting and Patrick McCaw is one of the more effective shooters with shooting diversity (off the dribble, off of screens, spot up). His body isn't ready right away, but neither is the rest of the 76ers team. He has upside and handle/pass.]

27. Toronto Raptors: Juan Hernangomez (Likely traded) [With their first pick, they picked up a Biyombo back up and they could stash this pick or they could develop a position at power forward with Hernangomez. While Hernangomez likely couldnt start right away, he could be a good back up to a good free agent or traded player.]

28. Phoenix Suns: Damian Jones [With the first two picks I had the Suns taking two guys with upside, but with this pick I think they see Damian Jones on the board and think, "Why is he still there?" Immediately they pick him up and trade away one of their other two centers. Jones would fit in perfectly and could possibly end up being the best center of the bunch.]

29. San Antonio Spurs: Kahlil Felder [Felder seems like the perfect Spurs steal. Everyone talks about him going in the second round because he's smaller, but the Spurs could use a back up PG and Felder is sitting there are on board. It's the sleeper pick everyone smacks themselves on the head when they say, "How could we let the Spurs get another good player?" And no one sees it coming.]

30. Golden State Warriors: DeAndre Bembry [A do-it-everything on offense kind of guy whose passing fits into the Warriors system seamlessly]

[Spens1]

cannot see Phoenix skipping on Bender if he is there at 4. Just cannot see it happening.

Also cannot see Hield going lower than 7 because he's perfect for Denver also (they need a S.G) and Brown happens to play where the Nuggets are deepest (S.F), in fact i wouldn't be all that surprised if they use one of the other two picks to move up to 4 or 5 to secure him.