The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

[jman3134]

I have little negative to say about Lighty to be honest. But, I would argue that the players he has played with over the years have opened up the game for him at least in part.

Oh, I gotta disagree with that second sentence. If anything, playing with Turner held him back. He's been unselfish almost to a fault. And frankly, he's a better athlete than Turner - capable of putting up big numbers if used in a bigger role. Cross fingers that he stays healthy. His situation reminds me of Elliott Willams' last year.

Playing with Turner somewhat limited his points totals. But, that is what he is going to be dealing with at the next level. When defenses focused on Turner etc. he was able to receive open shots. The same goes for Diebler.

He does not have the athleticism of Elliot Williams and he is a lot older. (don't get me wrong, he's an athlete, but Elliot is a freak)

[jman3134]

Marshon Brooks undrafted? This guy put up 28 against Pitt and 27 against Syracuse. Is this guy really that under the radar?

There have been plenty of guys who put up huge stats totals, but never made it into the league. He is a slashing 6'5 guard that can create for his teammates. However, a lot of his points come in transition, and he is fairly inconsistent from three. I still think that his game needs a little more exposure against Big East opponents, but he played excellent against Pitt and Syracuse. However, I would say that he is a borderline 2nd round pick at this point in time. Watching him on tape in Big East competition, Rutgers was able to limit him. (despite his 29 points, he scored most of them in transition and off of usage- not much that would translate at the next level)

Right now he is not strong enough to employ his excellent slashing game at the next level either. He has great length and decent quickness, but there is a lot that remains to be seen.

[Cammo101]

1/14/11

1. Cleveland - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
2. Sacramento - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
3. Minnesota - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
4. New Jersey - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
5. Washington - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
6. Detroit - Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, Switzerland)
7. Toronto - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
8. LA Clippers - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
9. Milwaukee - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
10. Philadelphia - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
11. Golden State - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
12. Charlotte - Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
13. Phoenix - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
14. Indiana - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
15. Houston - Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
16. Memphis - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
17. Portland - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
18. New York - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
19. Denver - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
20. Portland (from NO) - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
21. Phoenix (from ORL) - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
22. Atlanta - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
23. Chicago - Jeff Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
24. Utah - Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
25. Oklahoma City - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
26. Dallas - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
27. LA Lakers - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
28. Toronto (from MIA) - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
29. Boston - Kris Joseph (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Jr.)
30. San Antonio - CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)

31. Cleveland - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)
32. Sacramento - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
33. Minnesota - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
34. New Jersey - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
35. Washington - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
36. Detroit - David Lighty (6'6'', SG, Ohio State, Sr.)
37. Toronto - Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
38. LA Clippers - Chris Wright (6'7'', SF, Dayton, Sr.)
39. Milwaukee - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
40. Philadelphia - Lavoy Allen (6'9'', PF, Temple, Sr.)
41. Golden State - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
42. Charlotte - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
43. Phoenix - Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
44. Indiana - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
45. Houston - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
46. Memphis - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
47. Portland - Chris Wright (6'1'', PG, Georgetown, Sr.)
48. New York - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)
49. Denver - Will Coleman (6'9'', PF, Memphis, Sr.)
50. New Orleans - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
51. Orlando - Giorgi Shermandini (7'1'', C, Georgia)
52. Atlanta - Renardo Sidney (6'10'', PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
53. Chicago - Robin Benzing (6'10'', SF, Germany)
54. Utah - Ravern Johnson (6'7'', SF, Mississippi State, Sr.)
55. Oklahoma City - Anatoly Bose (6'6'', SG, Nichols State, Sr.)
56. Dallas - Wesley Witherspoon (6'8'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
57. LA Lakers - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
58. Miami - Kalin Lucas (6'0'', PG, Michigan State, Sr.)
59. Boston - Justin Hurtt (6'4'', SG, Tulsa, Sr.)
60. San Antonio - Milan Macvan (6'9'', PF, Serbia)

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[KF10]

Does Irving really deserve to be that high? I know he was the real deal when he played earlier in the season but his injury woes (I heard his injury is more serious than planned) is alarming.

Thanks.

[Cammo101]

Does Irving really deserve to be that high? I know he was the real deal when he played earlier in the season but his injury woes (I heard his injury is more serious than planned) is alarming.

Thanks.

It is a toe injury. Nothing to worry about going forward.

[Warspite]

Does Irving really deserve to be that high? I know he was the real deal when he played earlier in the season but his injury woes (I heard his injury is more serious than planned) is alarming.

Thanks.

Irving will have 18-20 months to rehab. Its not like a 2011 draft pick will be playing anytime soon.

[KF10]

Wait, what?

Irving isn't going to play his first year in the NBA (assuming he declares this year)?

20 months is 1 year and 8 months. That's like 2 full NBA seasons! So, the injury is worse than planned. Am I getting this right?

[AQuintus]

Wait, what?

Irving isn't going to play his first year in the NBA (assuming he declares this year)?

20 months is 1 year and 8 months. That's like 2 full NBA seasons! So, the injury is worse than planned. Am I getting this right?

He said, "Its not like a 2011 draft pick will be playing anytime soon." Which heavily implies that he thinks that their will be a lockout that kills most, if not all, of the upcoming season.

[vincecarter4pres]

Scotty Hopson undrafted?

I think it's time this kid starts getting some lotto love, let alone 1st round or off the board.

[Dr Positivity]

I'm not buying Burks being this coveted. Chad Ford and DX both have him out of the top 20 which tells me they know scouts aren't big on him

I haven't watched Selby much this year, is he a legit 6'3 and Eric Gordon size or closer to 6'1? Ford says 6'3. DX says 6'1 but then compares him to Gordon and Monta in the write-up. I think Selby at a legit 6'3 and undersized SG but big PG sized, would make him easy top 10

[KF10]

Wait, what?

Irving isn't going to play his first year in the NBA (assuming he declares this year)?

20 months is 1 year and 8 months. That's like 2 full NBA seasons! So, the injury is worse than planned. Am I getting this right?

He said, "Its not like a 2011 draft pick will be playing anytime soon." Which heavily implies that he thinks that their will be a lockout that kills most, if not all, of the upcoming season.

Oh ok, that makes sense.

[Cammo101]

Scotty Hopson undrafted?

I think it's time this kid starts getting some lotto love, let alone 1st round or off the board.

He is only a junior. If he comes out, he will get picked. Late 1st or more likely, early 2nd.

[Cammo101]

I'm not buying Burks being this coveted. Chad Ford and DX both have him out of the top 20 which tells me they know scouts aren't big on him

I haven't watched Selby much this year, is he a legit 6'3 and Eric Gordon size or closer to 6'1? Ford says 6'3. DX says 6'1 but then compares him to Gordon and Monta in the write-up. I think Selby at a legit 6'3 and undersized SG but big PG sized, would make him easy top 10

Be careful putting a lot of stock in Chad Ford or DX. I like DX okay, but they are less a draft site now and more a D League/Europe site.

I think Selby is closer to 6'1'' than 6'3''. People love to overrate these tweener guards every year. It was not long ago people were tripping over each other to praise Willie Warren as the next AI. The fact of the matter is that most 6'1'' SG's fail in the NBA.

[vincecarter4pres]

Scotty Hopson undrafted?

I think it's time this kid starts getting some lotto love, let alone 1st round or off the board.

He is only a junior. If he comes out, he will get picked. Late 1st or more likely, early 2nd.

IDK, this draft is so devoid of true high quality wings.

He still has a semi-suspect handle and has a little trouble creating clean looks for himself or others, but he's a lot more complete then his raw numbers would lead you to believe.

Seems like a leader too.

He has very legit size and athleticism, I think he's one of those guys that can easily switch from the two to small forward whenever needed.

Has all the potential to be a top notch defender and doesn't seem to mind getting a little dirty on that end either.

One of the better shooters as well, again his numbers might lead you to believe otherwise, but he's forced to take a lot of questionable shots to provide punch for his team, his form and elevation are good and he has almost unlimited range.

This year he's starting to get to the line at a very good rate.

I think if he continues on this pace and has a strong tourney he can go as high as say 8th overall, although I'm thinking a more realistic range is about 12th to 20th.

[vincecarter4pres]

Be careful putting a lot of stock in Chad Ford or DX. I like DX okay, but they are less a draft site now and more a D League/Europe site.

I'd like to add to this.

I was thinking about starting a thread on the main draft board about DX.

It's frustrating if not borderline offensive that a site considered probably the top in their field, that is so popular and heavily referenced is so friggin' lazy.

Player pages are RARELY updated and I mean like a year in between on a lot of the top prospects and they never put player comparisons at the top box of the player pages anymore.

I don't put a ton of weight into them, but they're nice to see, especially if they're realistic, unlike a lot of nbadraft.net's.

[Dr Positivity]

Be careful putting a lot of stock in Chad Ford or DX. I like DX okay, but they are less a draft site now and more a D League/Europe site.

Actually, there's nobody I trust more for the 'inside scoops' than Ford. His personal instincts on prospects are native burial ground curse level bad, but for me he's the most reliable for reporting what teams and scouts are thinking (and then proceeding to convince himself they're right). And I have to put stock into him putting Burks at 28th and not reporting a peep of buzz about him. When Ford puts a guy at 28thish, it means someone could take him top 20 or in the 2nd round within margin of error, at least with the way things are now. 28th in a lockout draft tells me teams are thinking athletic 8th man with Burks. I could see him sneaking into the top 16, top 5 seems out of his class

[Cammo101]

Be careful putting a lot of stock in Chad Ford or DX. I like DX okay, but they are less a draft site now and more a D League/Europe site.

Actually, there's nobody I trust more for the 'inside scoops' than Ford. His personal instincts on prospects are native burial ground curse level bad, but for me he's the most reliable for reporting what teams and scouts are thinking (and then proceeding to convince himself they're right). And I have to put stock into him putting Burks at 28th and not reporting a peep of buzz about him. When Ford puts a guy at 28thish, it means someone could take him top 20 or in the 2nd round within margin of error, at least with the way things are now. 28th in a lockout draft tells me teams are thinking athletic 8th man with Burks. I could see him sneaking into the top 16, top 5 seems out of his class

People said almost this exact same thing when I had Brandon Roy in the top 5 about halfway through the season.

They all catch up eventually.

[vincecarter4pres]

Be careful putting a lot of stock in Chad Ford or DX. I like DX okay, but they are less a draft site now and more a D League/Europe site.

Actually, there's nobody I trust more for the 'inside scoops' than Ford. His personal instincts on prospects are native burial ground curse level bad, but for me he's the most reliable for reporting what teams and scouts are thinking (and then proceeding to convince himself they're right). And I have to put stock into him putting Burks at 28th and not reporting a peep of buzz about him. When Ford puts a guy at 28thish, it means someone could take him top 20 or in the 2nd round within margin of error, at least with the way things are now. 28th in a lockout draft tells me teams are thinking athletic 8th man with Burks. I could see him sneaking into the top 16, top 5 seems out of his class

People said almost this exact same thing when I had Brandon Roy in the top 5 about halfway through the season.

They all catch up eventually.

Paul George maybe an even better example.

[princeofpalace]

Alec Burks could be a surprise or it could be a big mistake. Right now I think mistake but who knows...

[jman3134]

Scotty Hopson undrafted?

I think it's time this kid starts getting some lotto love, let alone 1st round or off the board.

100% agree with you. His shot isn't there, but in a draft like this, he is a first round talent.

As for Alec Burks- like I said, the guy has some noticeable holes in his game. With that said, if Colorado can keep playing the way they are (and Burks is a critical part of that success), then he will clearly go higher than 28.