gswhoops' 2009 Mock (newest version page 5)

Baddy Chuck · Post #21 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:19 am

Evans and DeRozan drop to the Bucks? Wow that'd be a tough choice.

Post #22 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:21 pm

MYoung23 wrote:There is a difference between BPA and a guy that doesnt fit at all. Tweener forwards that cant knock down the NBA 3 at all have no role on the Cavaliers.

If not James, then who should they take? I considered a PG like Price but James seemed like a better fit.

Baddy Chuck · Post #23 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:58 pm

gswhoops wrote:
MYoung23 wrote:There is a difference between BPA and a guy that doesnt fit at all. Tweener forwards that cant knock down the NBA 3 at all have no role on the Cavaliers.

If not James, then who should they take? I considered a PG like Price but James seemed like a better fit.

Pendergraph? Gibson?

MYoung23 · Post #24 » by **MYoung23** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:42 am

ManualRam wrote:any team could use an athletic wing who can play multiple positions. who cares if he cant shoot the 3, the 30th pick in the draft is likely the 11th or 12th man. werent the cavs said to be targeting ariza? he's not a great 3pt shooter either.

No, the Cavaliers arent targeting Ariza. That was another poorly written and misleading RealGM wiretap headline.

The 30th pick isnt necessarily going to be the 11th or 12th man. Gibson, as a 2nd round pick was in the rotation by the end of his rookie year. Darnell Jackson is currently the 9th man in the rotation.

The Cavaliers needs are as such. An athletic swingman that can defend and a young center prospect. Cleveland mainly plays 3 small guards. The other wing with some size other than James is Pavlovic who pretty much stinks. He is only guaranteed 1.5M next year and probably will be dealt. Tarence Kinsey has been productive when given minutes but he is slight of build and Mike Brown doesnt want to commit to him in the rotation. Szczerbiak cant defend out on the floor anymore and has found a niche as a backup space the floor PF. His contract is up at the end of the season.

Despite the Cavaliers drafting 3 big men last year. 2 are PFs and unless Sasha imports a midrange jumper from Russia he isnt coming over any time soon. Ilguaskas will be 34 this summer and entering the last year of his contract. Varejao will opt out this summer. Ben Wallace will be 35 next year and Joe Smith is 33. A young Center prospect is also a priority.

ManualRam · Post #25 » by **ManualRam** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:24 pm

MYoung23 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:any team could use an athletic wing who can play multiple positions. who cares if he cant shoot the 3, the 30th pick in the draft is likely the 11th or 12th man. werent the cavs said to be targeting ariza? he's not a great 3pt shooter either.

The Cavaliers needs are as such. An athletic swingman

ok, you couldve stopped right there.

Post #26 » by **5DOM** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:03 pm

For the Raptors, I personally prefer Warren, Evans and DeRozan to Henderson

Rockmaninoff · Post #27 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:57 pm

RingtheBell wrote:Evans and DeRozan drop to the Bucks? Wow that'd be a tough choice.

Yes it would, but that would be the best case scenario.

Post #28 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 9:36 pm

Here's the updated, post-Tourney edition:

1. Kings - Blake Griffin, Oklahoma
2. Wizards - Ricky Rubio, DKV Joventut
3. Clippers - Jordan Hill, Arizona
4. Thunder - James Harden, Arizona State
5. Wolves - Hasheem Thabeet, Connecticut
6. Grizzlies - Greg Monroe, Georgetown
7. Warriors - Tyreke Evans, Memphis
8. Knicks - Brandon Jennings, Lottomatica Roma
9. Raptors - DeMar DeRozan, USC
10. Bucks - Earl Clark, Louisville
11. Nets - Al-Farouq Aminu, Wake Forest
12. Pacers - Craig Brackins, Iowa State
13. Bobcats - Gerald Henderson, Duke
14. Suns - Ty Lawson, UNC
15. Pistons - B.J. Mullens, Ohio State
16. Bulls - DeJuan Blair, Pitt
17. Sixers - Stephen Curry, Davidson
18. Wolves - Eric Maynor, VCU
19. Hawks - James Johnson, Wake Forest
20. Mavericks - Terrence Williams, Louisville
21. Jazz - Chase Budinger, Arizona
22. Hornets - Jeff Teague, Wake Forest
23. Trail Blazers - Omri Casspi, Maccabi Tel Aviv
24. Kings - Jonny Flynn, Syracuse
25. Thunder - Sam Young, Pitt
26. Bulls - Nick Calathes, Florida
27. Magic - Tyler Hansbrough, UNC
28. Wolves - DaJuan Summers, Georgetown
29. Lakers - Wayne Ellington, UNC
30. Celtics - Jeff Pendergraph, Arizona State

Villanova1L · Post #29 » by **Villanova1L** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:41 am

gswhoops wrote:Here's the updated, post-Tourney edition:

1. Kings - Blake Griffin, Oklahoma
2. Wizards - Ricky Rubio, DKV Joventut
3. Clippers - Jordan Hill, Arizona
4. Thunder - James Harden, Arizona State
5. Wolves - Hasheem Thabeet, Connecticut
6. Grizzlies - Greg Monroe, Georgetown
7. Warriors - Tyreke Evans, Memphis
8. Knicks - Brandon Jennings, Lottomatica Roma
9. Raptors - DeMar DeRozan, USC
10. Bucks - Earl Clark, Louisville
11. Nets - Al-Farouq Aminu, Wake Forest
12. Pacers - Craig Brackins, Iowa State
13. Bobcats - Gerald Henderson, Duke
14. Suns - Ty Lawson, UNC
15. Pistons - B.J. Mullens, Ohio State
16. Bulls - DeJuan Blair, Pitt
17. Sixers - Stephen Curry, Davidson
18. Wolves - Eric Maynor, VCU
19. Hawks - James Johnson, Wake Forest
20. Mavericks - Terrence Williams, Louisville
21. Jazz - Chase Budinger, Arizona
22. Hornets - Jeff Teague, Wake Forest
23. Trail Blazers - Omri Casspi, Maccabi Tel Aviv
24. Kings - Jonny Flynn, Syracuse
25. Thunder - Sam Young, Pitt
26. Bulls - Nick Calathes, Florida
27. Magic - Tyler Hansbrough, UNC
28. Wolves - DaJuan Summers, Georgetown
29. Lakers - Wayne Ellington, UNC
30. Celtics - Jeff Pendergraph, Arizona State

Teague is too low, Calathes is too high and Ellington will go before Hansbrough.
If Monroe comes out I think he goes above Jordan Hill.

john2jer · Post #30 » by **john2jer** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:22 pm

If we can take Jrue Holiday at #18 instead of Eric Maynor, I'm sold.

Thabeet/Holiday/Summers was my dream draft in December.

Post #31 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:15 pm

john2jer wrote:If we can take Jrue Holiday at #18 instead of Eric Maynor, I'm sold.

Thabeet/Holiday/Summers was my dream draft in December.

I'm assuming Holiday doesn't declare.

EDIT: Looks like he is declaring. My bad.

Post #32 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Newest version:

1. Kings - Blake Griffin, Oklahoma
2. Clippers - Ricky Rubio, DKV Joventut
3. Wizards - James Harden, Arizona State
4. Thunder - Hasheem Thabeet, Connecticut
5. Wolves - Tyreke Evans, Memphis
6. Grizzlies - Jordan Hill, Arizona
7. Warriors - Brandon Jennings, Lottomatica Roma
8. Knicks - DeMar DeRozan, USC
9. Raptors - Gerald Henderson, Duke
10. Bucks - Ty Lawson, UNC
11. Nets - Earl Clark, Louisville
12. Bobcats - Terrence Williams, Louisville
13. Pacers - Craig Brackins, Iowa State
14. Suns - Jonny Flynn, Syracuse
15. Pistons - B.J. Mullens, Ohio State
16. Bulls - DeJuan Blair, Pitt
17. Sixers - Stephen Curry, Davidson
18. Wolves - Austin Daye, Gonzaga
19. Hawks - Jeff Teague, Wake Forest
20. Mavericks - Chase Budinger, Arizona
21. Jazz - Jrue Holiday, UCLA
22. Hornets - James Johnson, Wake Forest
23. Kings - Eric Maynor, VCU
24. Trailblazers - Patrick Patterson, Kentucky
25. Thunder - Wayne Ellington, UNC
26. Chicago - Sam Young, Pitt
27. Wolves - Jeff Pendergraph, Arizona State
28. Magic - Tyler Hansbrough, UNC
29. Lakers - DaJuan Summers, Georgetown
30. Cavaliers - Patrick Mills, St. Mary's

john2jer · Post #33 » by **john2jer** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:22 pm

I like it.

DeRozan and LeBron would actually be kind of fun to watch in 2010. :-)

Post #34 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:23 pm

john2jer wrote:I like it.

DeRozan and LeBron would actually be kind of fun to watch in 2010.

Talk about athletes...

john2jer · Post #35 » by **john2jer** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:48 pm

Nash would sign for the veteran minimum just to toss alley-oops to those guys all day long.

Post #36 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:26 pm

john2jer wrote:Nash would sign for the veteran minimum just to toss alley-oops to those guys all day long.

I kinda hope this happens just because it would be too fun to watch. Nash/DeRozan/LeBron/Gallinari would be a sweet lineup, assuming they could find a decent center that can play defense in an uptempo system.

MYoung23 · Post #37 » by **MYoung23** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:37 pm

john2jer wrote:I like it.

DeRozan and LeBron would actually be kind of fun to watch in 2010.

Keep dreamin'

john2jer · Post #38 » by **john2jer** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:26 pm

gswhoops wrote:
john2jer wrote:Nash would sign for the veteran minimum just to toss alley-oops to those guys all day long.

I kinda hope this happens just because it would be too fun to watch. Nash/DeRozan/LeBron/Gallinari would be a sweet lineup, assuming they could find a decent center that can play defense in an uptempo system.

Make a trade for Tyson Chandler?

Nash/DeRozan/LeBron/Gallinari/Chandler is actually a realistic roster that would be a ton of fun to watch. DeRozan, LeBron, and Chandler can all play defense as well, so they'd help hide Nash's deficiencies. Add in a young pup point guard that can attack the cup and play good defense, and they're sitting pretty.

Post #39 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:53 pm

^^ Realistic, assuming they can simply sign LeBron and Nash away from their respective teams. Nash is pretty likely IMO, LeBron...not so much.

john2jer · Post #40 » by **john2jer** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:07 pm

gswhoops wrote:^^ Realistic, assuming they can simply sign LeBron and Nash away from their respective teams. Nash is pretty likely IMO, LeBron...not so much.

Well, yeah. LeBron to New York is a realistic possibility. I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it's not like we're saying LeBron to Memphis or Minnesota. And also realistic in that it's not Amare AND LeBron in New York, or another max free agent. I know it's no guarantee he leaves Cleveland, and if they win a championship this year, it's a good chance he sticks around, but in support of my dream, pretend with me. :-)

Nash has made quite a bit of money, I can see him being desperate for a championship now before he retires, and with D'Antoni in New York, I don't think it's crazy to think he'll sign there for the veteran minimum if other pieces are already in place.