2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/6)
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What does Henderson have over Williams? Please, explain that to me, because I have yet to see it. I'm not saying the Raptors WILL take Williams, I just believe that they'd take him over Henderson if it came down to it.
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Gruel wrote:What does Henderson have over Williams? Please, explain that to me, because I have yet to see it. I'm not saying the Raptors WILL take Williams, I just believe that they'd take him over Henderson if it came down to it.
He is a far superior offensive player and a much better shooter. Williams is the better defender and rebounder, but those are not exactly tops on your list for SG's in he lotto.
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Don't the Raptors have enough shooters?
Also Henderson shot .336 on 3's with a .450 field goal percentage.
Williams shot .385 on 3's with a .431 field gaol percentage.
Although Williams is a poorer FT shooter, the statistics show that Henderson isn't a MUCH better shooter. Maybe a tad better, if that.
What makes a lotto SG? A scorer? So Ronnie Brewer shouldn't have been drafted in the lottery because he played a similar role in college to Williams? A big wing that has no jumpshot but is a solid passer/rebounder who can play defense. Since when were undersized SG's that have poor 3 point shooting percentages and an inability to do other things besides score get drafted in the lottery?
Just the counter argument... not that I have anything against Henderson.
Also Henderson shot .336 on 3's with a .450 field goal percentage.
Williams shot .385 on 3's with a .431 field gaol percentage.
Although Williams is a poorer FT shooter, the statistics show that Henderson isn't a MUCH better shooter. Maybe a tad better, if that.
What makes a lotto SG? A scorer? So Ronnie Brewer shouldn't have been drafted in the lottery because he played a similar role in college to Williams? A big wing that has no jumpshot but is a solid passer/rebounder who can play defense. Since when were undersized SG's that have poor 3 point shooting percentages and an inability to do other things besides score get drafted in the lottery?
Just the counter argument... not that I have anything against Henderson.
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In what world is Terrence Williams anything like Iggy? Williams is an NBA role player.
To be fair, Williams hasn't played a single NBA game. And actually, Iggy and Williams were relatively similar college players. Great defenders, passers, rebounders, and athletes. Struggle with the outside jumper. Iggy was a better ballhandler.
Iguodala '03-'04 stats at Arizona: 12.9ppg, 8.4rpg, 4.9apg, 1.6spg, .450 FG%, .315 3P%
Williams '08-'09 stats at Louisville: 12.5ppg, 8.6rpg, 5.0apg, 2.3spg, .431 FG%, .385 3P%
I know better than anyone that stats aren't even close to the whole story but they illustrate certain similarities. I am not saying Terrence Williams is the next Andre Iguodala, but they have similar skillsets. And frankly, Iguodala isn't exactly a star..he probly shouldn't be the 1st option on a good team, at least not until he develops a better jumper and starts taking better shots in general.
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Love it for Minnesota
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Decent mock but I think Holliday will get strong consideration from the Bucks. He's a Skiles type of player.
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I'd be satisfied with this for Minnesota. Holiday/DeRozan would be fun together. I see many alley oops in their future, and some lock down defense on the perimeter.
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i hate Maynor @ 17....hes got Acie Law esque bust written all over him
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Love it for the Wolves.
And I agree that Maynor's going to turn out to be a bust.
And I agree that Maynor's going to turn out to be a bust.
basketball royalty wrote:Is Miami considered a big city in the States? I thought guys just went there because of the weather and the bitches?
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Your mock went from good to crap. Thabeet is going to be such a waste of space. Thankfully Presti gets to draft James Harden.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/2)
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Dallas would certainly take him at 22 if he is still on the board.AQuintus wrote:big3_8_19_21 wrote:Decent mock, but Lawson seems way too low at 23
I had the same concern when I was making it, but at the same time, I couldn't find where he would go higher up. To Atlanta instead of Flynn, maybe? That's still not very high, though.
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If Memphis backs off Rubio (they won't even if they do wind up trading him), then Presti picks him at #3 and trades him to Sacramento even if it's only for their pick at #23.
At #25 I think it's Rodrigue Beaubois or Patty Mills.
At #25 I think it's Rodrigue Beaubois or Patty Mills.
notSonics 2016
Starters - Trey, Roberson, KD, Ibaka, Adams
Rotation - Payne, Waiters, Green, McGary, Kanter
Bench - Collison, Christon, Brodgon, Huestis
Stash - Johnson, Abrine
Cut - Morrow
Trade - Singler
Draft - Brogdon
FA - Green
Starters - Trey, Roberson, KD, Ibaka, Adams
Rotation - Payne, Waiters, Green, McGary, Kanter
Bench - Collison, Christon, Brodgon, Huestis
Stash - Johnson, Abrine
Cut - Morrow
Trade - Singler
Draft - Brogdon
FA - Green
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/6)
Updated again taking into account a few more rumors.