2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/6)

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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#21 » by Gruel » Tue May 19, 2009 10:03 pm

What does Henderson have over Williams? Please, explain that to me, because I have yet to see it. I'm not saying the Raptors WILL take Williams, I just believe that they'd take him over Henderson if it came down to it.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#22 » by Cammo101 » Tue May 19, 2009 10:47 pm

Gruel wrote:What does Henderson have over Williams? Please, explain that to me, because I have yet to see it. I'm not saying the Raptors WILL take Williams, I just believe that they'd take him over Henderson if it came down to it.


He is a far superior offensive player and a much better shooter. Williams is the better defender and rebounder, but those are not exactly tops on your list for SG's in he lotto.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#23 » by Gruel » Wed May 20, 2009 12:28 am

Don't the Raptors have enough shooters?

Also Henderson shot .336 on 3's with a .450 field goal percentage.
Williams shot .385 on 3's with a .431 field gaol percentage.
Although Williams is a poorer FT shooter, the statistics show that Henderson isn't a MUCH better shooter. Maybe a tad better, if that.

What makes a lotto SG? A scorer? So Ronnie Brewer shouldn't have been drafted in the lottery because he played a similar role in college to Williams? A big wing that has no jumpshot but is a solid passer/rebounder who can play defense. Since when were undersized SG's that have poor 3 point shooting percentages and an inability to do other things besides score get drafted in the lottery?

Just the counter argument... not that I have anything against Henderson.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#24 » by CraigDeuce » Wed May 20, 2009 4:38 am

In what world is Terrence Williams anything like Iggy? Williams is an NBA role player.


To be fair, Williams hasn't played a single NBA game. And actually, Iggy and Williams were relatively similar college players. Great defenders, passers, rebounders, and athletes. Struggle with the outside jumper. Iggy was a better ballhandler.

Iguodala '03-'04 stats at Arizona: 12.9ppg, 8.4rpg, 4.9apg, 1.6spg, .450 FG%, .315 3P%
Williams '08-'09 stats at Louisville: 12.5ppg, 8.6rpg, 5.0apg, 2.3spg, .431 FG%, .385 3P%

I know better than anyone that stats aren't even close to the whole story but they illustrate certain similarities. I am not saying Terrence Williams is the next Andre Iguodala, but they have similar skillsets. And frankly, Iguodala isn't exactly a star..he probly shouldn't be the 1st option on a good team, at least not until he develops a better jumper and starts taking better shots in general.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: Post Lottery) 

Post#25 » by wildvikeswolves » Wed May 20, 2009 6:46 am

Love it for Minnesota
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: Post Lottery) 

Post#26 » by carmelbrownqueen » Wed May 20, 2009 3:24 pm

Decent mock but I think Holliday will get strong consideration from the Bucks. He's a Skiles type of player.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: Post Lottery) 

Post#27 » by john2jer » Wed May 20, 2009 4:23 pm

I'd be satisfied with this for Minnesota. Holiday/DeRozan would be fun together. I see many alley oops in their future, and some lock down defense on the perimeter.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 5/28) 

Post#28 » by AQuintus » Thu May 28, 2009 8:33 am

Updated on first page to take into account a few new rumors.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 5/28) 

Post#29 » by PhilasFinest » Thu May 28, 2009 11:36 pm

i hate Maynor @ 17....hes got Acie Law esque bust written all over him
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 5/28) 

Post#30 » by john2jer » Fri May 29, 2009 4:15 pm

Love it for the Wolves.

And I agree that Maynor's going to turn out to be a bust.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#31 » by djthesonicsfan » Fri May 29, 2009 10:13 pm

Your mock went from good to crap. Thabeet is going to be such a waste of space. Thankfully Presti gets to draft James Harden.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/2) 

Post#32 » by AQuintus » Tue Jun 2, 2009 9:44 pm

Updated again taking into account more rumors and measurements (to some degree).
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey 

Post#33 » by JES12 » Wed Jun 3, 2009 3:29 am

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big3_8_19_21 wrote:Decent mock, but Lawson seems way too low at 23


I had the same concern when I was making it, but at the same time, I couldn't find where he would go higher up. To Atlanta instead of Flynn, maybe? That's still not very high, though.
Dallas would certainly take him at 22 if he is still on the board.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/2) 

Post#34 » by djthesonicsfan » Wed Jun 3, 2009 6:44 pm

If Memphis backs off Rubio (they won't even if they do wind up trading him), then Presti picks him at #3 and trades him to Sacramento even if it's only for their pick at #23.

At #25 I think it's Rodrigue Beaubois or Patty Mills.
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Re: 2009: A Mock Odyssey (Updated: 6/6) 

Post#35 » by AQuintus » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:39 am

Updated again taking into account a few more rumors.
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