The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

Post #261 » by **B Mac** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:03 am

How many PF's can the Cavs possibly have?

Jazzfan12 · Post #262 » by **Jazzfan12** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:29 am

brassviews wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
brassviews wrote:Walker is too high (imo), but I wouldn't be surprised if a team takes him fifth. He's playing in the best conference in the country.

Also, Fredette should be higher to be honest. I'm not a fan of his game, but he's playing considerable. Yesterday's game probably made him a top 10 pick.

The numbers Jimmer puts up against TCU have little say in where he is drafted. TCU barely has college level players, let alone NBA level. I like Jimmer, but his PPG against bottom feeders mean nothing for his stock rising or falling. If Jimmer puts up video game numbers against teams with solid talent, then we may see his name surface in the top 10 range.

Walker is ripping up the Big East and he is too high, but Jimmer's big game against TCU makes him a top 10 pick? That does not compute for me.

I'm talking about the BYU-New Mexico game.

Anyways, I think Utah would take Fredette. The same goes for Milwaukee and Indiana. Do I agree with taking him that high? No....but they've done some questionable things in past drafts.

Utah - Gordon Hayward
Indiana - Tyler Hansbrough

I guess you could throw in Joe Alexander and Milwaukee. However, I thought Alexander look like a solid prospect.

Psycho T is averaging near 20-10 since the all-star and is a beast. Saying that Bird was racist for taking Hansbrough at this point in time is one of the dumbest draft related things you say.

Cammo101 · Post #263 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:07 pm

princeofpalace wrote:Whats the reason for Markieff Morris fall?

Just a numbers game. He will be a late first, early second depending on who declares.

Cammo101 · Post #264 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:09 pm

B Mac wrote:How many PF's can the Cavs possibly have?

The Cavs need an infusion of talent at any and every position. Specifically though, Williams and Jones are different enough to where they can play together in the NBA.

brassviews · Post #265 » by **brassviews** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:00 pm

Jazzfan12 wrote:Saying that Bird was racist for taking Hansbrough at this point in time is one of the dumbest draft related things you say.

What are you talking about?

At the time of the draft, Hansbrough was not considered a lottery pick. He was taken in the lottery. My point is that sometimes players get taken early even if they're not considered a lottery pick.

Fredette (most seem to think he'll get taken mid-first) could be in the same situation as Hansbrough come June.

Krapinsky · Post #266 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:31 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Minor detail, but I don't think CJ Leslie would be in the draft if he is a second rounder.

Word is he is leaving NC State regardless.

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Despite Sidney Lowe's imminent firing at NC State, C.J. Leslie will NOT be entering this year's NBA draft, sources tell DraftExpress.

Cammo101 · Post #267 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:32 pm

3/15/11 (Pre NCAA Tourney Mock)

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Sacramento - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
3. Minnesota - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
4. Washington - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, Ohio State, Fresh.)
5. Toronto - Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, Turkey)
6. Utah - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
7. Detroit - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
8. Cleveland - Perry Jones (6'11'', PF, Baylor, Fresh.)
9. Milwaukee - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
10. Charlotte - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Indiana - Terrence Jones (6'9'', SF, Kentucky, Fresh.)
12. Golden State - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
13. Houston - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
14. Utah - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
15. Philadelphia - John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Soph.)
16. Houston - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF San Diego State, Soph.)
17. New York - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
18. Minnesota - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
19. Portland - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
20. Charlotte - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
21. Washington - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
22. Denver - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
23. Phoenix - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
24. Oklahoma City - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
25. Toronto - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
26. New Jersey - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
27. Dallas - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
28. Chicago - John Jenkins (6'4'', SG, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
29. Boston - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
30. San Antonio - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)

31. Cleveland - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
32. Washington - Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, Kansas, Fresh.)
33. Miami - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
34. Washington - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
35. Detroit - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
36. Golden State - Jeffery Taylor (6'6'', SF, Vanderbilt, Jr.)
37. LA Clippers - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
38. Houston - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
39. Sacramento - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
40. Charlotte - Rick Jackson (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Sr.)
41. Indiana - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
42. Golden State - CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, North Carolina State, Fresh.)
43. LA Clippers - Wesley Witherspoon (6'8'', SF, Memphis, Jr.)
44. Utah - Justin Hurtt (6'4'', SG, Tulsa, Sr.)
45. New Orleans - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Sr.)
46. Chicago - Cam Long (6'4'', SG, George Mason, Sr.)
47. LA Lakers - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Sr.)
48. Houston - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
49. Denver - Chandler Parsons (6'10'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
50. Philadelphia - Renard Sidney (6'10'', PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
51. Atlanta - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
52. Portland - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Charles Jenkins (6'3'', SG, Hofstra, Sr.)
54. Cleveland - Robin Benzing (6'9'', SF, Germany)
55. LA Lakers - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
56. LA Lakers - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Sr.)
57. Dallas - Austin Freeman (6'4'', SG, Georgetown, Sr.)
58. Milwaukee - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Sr.)
59. Boston - Ben Hansbrough (6'3'', SG, Notre Dame, Sr.)
60. San Antonio - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)

http://www.nbadraftguru.blogspot.com

Kirsten19 · Post #268 » by **Kirsten19** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:34 pm

Do u guys think Sullinger may fall to the 6th? Possible?

I think Dumars wants him and I've seen some of his games, he's a beast and I think Monroe-Sullinger is a God Send Combo. Sullinger is very solid and allrounded, he's fairly athletic as well! I know he's 6'8" only but he's a good player. If he falls to the 6th or 7th, I think Dumars may pick him without any shadow of a doubt.

And if he's 6'9", I think it's a fair height for a PF... But is it likely that he'll be gone before 6th?

Post #269 » by **KF10** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:38 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:Do u guys think Sullinger may fall to the 6th? Possible?

I think Dumars wants him and I've seen some of his games, he's a beast and I think Monroe-Sullinger is a God Send Combo. Sullinger is very solid and allrounded, he's fairly athletic as well! I know he's 6'8" only but he's a good player. If he falls to the 6th or 7th, I think Dumars may pick him without any shadow of a doubt.

And if he's 6'9", I think it's a fair height for a PF... But is it likely that he'll be gone before 6th?

If Sullinger falls out from the top-5, he is an automatic pick after that. But I don't see Sullinger falling out from the top-5 though. I think at worst Sullinger drops at 5th (MAYBE 6th but doubt it), most likely a team like Detroit has to trade up to get him (or tank more harder).

Dr Positivity · Post #270 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:58 pm

Detroit getting Sullinger and Monroe back to back would be awesome. Sullinger reminds me a lot of how Monroe should've been a top 5 lock and level with Favors/Cousins but his lack of flashy athleticism made him underplayed.

I think all of this depends on the seeding.

Cammo101 · Post #271 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:35 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:Do u guys think Sullinger may fall to the 6th? Possible?

I think Dumars wants him and I've seen some of his games, he's a beast and I think Monroe-Sullinger is a God Send Combo. Sullinger is very solid and allrounded, he's fairly athletic as well! I know he's 6'8" only but he's a good player. If he falls to the 6th or 7th, I think Dumars may pick him without any shadow of a doubt.

And if he's 6'9", I think it's a fair height for a PF... But is it likely that he'll be gone before 6th?

Anything is possible this far out, but I think 4 is pretty much his floor at the moment. It is more likely he goes above #4 than falls past it.

Krapinsky · Post #272 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:51 pm

Re Sullinger, it Depends on the draft order. Utah and Minnesota aren't going to take him under any circumstances. Toronto could pass too.

princeofpalace · Post #273 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:46 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:Do u guys think Sullinger may fall to the 6th? Possible?

I think Dumars wants him and I've seen some of his games, he's a beast and I think Monroe-Sullinger is a God Send Combo. Sullinger is very solid and allrounded, he's fairly athletic as well! I know he's 6'8" only but he's a good player. If he falls to the 6th or 7th, I think Dumars may pick him without any shadow of a doubt.

And if he's 6'9", I think it's a fair height for a PF... But is it likely that he'll be gone before 6th?

You think?

Or Ford & Smimmons think?

KayAllTheWaay · Post #274 » by **KayAllTheWaay** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:52 am

Cammo101 wrote:34. Washington - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)

How come he is so high here?
Even turkish sites project him between 50. and 60. pick.
Just a hunch, or did you hear/read something?

Cammo101 · Post #275 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:29 pm

KayAllTheWaay wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:34. Washington - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)

How come he is so high here?
Even turkish sites project him between 50. and 60. pick.
Just a hunch, or did you hear/read something?

I was actually only recently turned on to the idea that he might actually declare for this year's draft. If he does, with his upside and the lack of quality Euros in the second round, he should go before 50-60. Especially with a team like Washington lurking who has 4 picks in this draft. They will either need to condence some of their picks or take a draft and stash guy or two.

There are plenty of people who consider Aldemir a first round prospect in this draft, especially with teams like OKC and SA picking late.

KayAllTheWaay · Post #276 » by **KayAllTheWaay** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:42 pm

Cammo101 wrote:I was actually only recently turned on to the idea that he might actually declare for this year's draft. If he does, with his upside and the lack of quality Euros in the second round, he should go before 50-60. Especially with a team like Washington lurking who has 4 picks in this draft. They will either need to condence some of their picks or take a draft and stash guy or two.

There are plenty of people who consider Aldemir a first round prospect in this draft, especially with teams like OKC and SA picking late.

k, thx for the insight.

Post #277 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
KayAllTheWaay wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:34. Washington - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)

How come he is so high here?
Even turkish sites project him between 50. and 60. pick.
Just a hunch, or did you hear/read something?

I was actually only recently turned on to the idea that he might actually declare for this year's draft. If he does, with his upside and the lack of quality Euros in the second round, he should go before 50-60. Especially with a team like Washington lurking who has 4 picks in this draft. They will either need to condence some of their picks or take a draft and stash guy or two.

There are plenty of people who consider Aldemir a first round prospect in this draft, especially with teams like OKC and SA picking late.

You're not supposed to give away that Washington has 4 picks. It's in the future that they get that 4th pick. :wink:

Seriously, do they have 4? I know they acquired Atlanta's 1st in the Hinrich maneuver.

Post #278 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:14 pm

Interesting - I just noticed Cammo has Terrence Jones down at #11. Looking at his last several games, he's really falling off statistically. I thought he was a lock top 6 pick, but something's gone awry with him. Does anyone know the reason for his aparent decline in play?

teamjosh04 · Post #279 » by **teamjosh04** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:17 am

He sucks. Ive said it all year.

But I think teams are beginning to realize that he can only drive one way and doesnt have much of an in-between game.

princeofpalace · Post #280 » by **princeofpalace** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:08 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
princeofpalace wrote:Whats the reason for Markieff Morris fall?

Just a numbers game. He will be a late first, early second depending on who declares.

'
With the way he's been playing recently, you don't think there is anyway for him to move himself up into the early 20s?

I think Markieff will be a better pro than Marcus, I just see him as a sleeper.