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Jahmi’us Ramsey got a criminal record or something I don't know about ? He's a top 10 lock just on potential and his decision making ability is vastly underated here given how athletic he is on top of it.

Any big board with tiers coming?

Curtis Lemansky wrote:Any big board with tiers coming?

Ask and ye shall receive. This year is tough, because there just doesn't seem to be as pronounced of a difference between the tiers. I am curious if it will sort itself out after the tourney, because right now this draft is both weak and very eye of the beholder.

Tiered Big Board (3/2)

Tier 1:

1. LaMelo Ball (6'6'', SG, USA)
2. James Wiseman (7'1'', C, Memphis, Fresh.)
3. Anthony Edwards (6'5’', SG, Georgia, Fresh.)
4. Cole Anthony (6'2'', PG, North Carolina, Fresh.)

Tier 2:

5. Deni Avdija (6'9'', SF, Israel)
6. Onyeka Okongwu (6’9’’, PF, USC, Fresh.)
7. Daniel Oturu (6’10’’, C, Minnesota, Soph.)
8. Obi Toppin (6’9’’, SF, Dayton, Soph.)
9. RJ Hampton (6'5'', SG, USA)
10. Tyrese Haliburton (6'5'', PG, Iowa State, Soph.)

Tier 3:

11. Isaiah Stewart (6'9'', PF, Washington, Fresh.)
12. Killian Hayes (6'5'', SG, France)
13. Tyrese Maxey (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
14. Vernon Carey (6'10'', C, Duke, Fresh.)
15. Isaac Okoro (6’6’’, SF, Auburn, Fresh.)
16. Devin Vassell (6’6’’, SG, Florida State, Soph.)
17. Patrick Williams (6’8’’, SF, Florida State, Fresh.)

Tier 4:

18. Theo Maledon (6'5'', PG, France)
19. Josh Green (6'6'', SG, Arizona, Fresh.)
20. Jaden McDaniels (6'10'', SF, Washington, Fresh.)
21. Precious Achiuwa (6'9'', SF, Memphis, Fresh.)
22. Jahmi’us Ramsey (6’4’’, SG, Texas Tech, Fresh.)
23. Aaron Nesmith (6’6’’, SF, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
24. Nico Mannion (6'2'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
25. Tre Jones (6'3'', PG, Duke, Soph.)
26. Jalen Smith (6'10'', PF, Maryland, Soph.)

Tier 5:

27. Reggie Perry (6’9’’, PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
28. Saddiq Bey (6’8’’, SF, Villanova, Soph.)
29. Trendon Watford (6'9'', PF, LSU, Fresh.
30. Cassius Stanley (6’5’’, SG, Duke, Fresh.)
31. Aleksej Pokusevski (7’0’’, C, Serbia)
32. Isaiah Joe (6'5'', SG, Arkansas, Soph.)
33. Paul Reed (6’9’’, PF, DePaul, Jr.)
34. Devon Dotson (6'2'', PG, Kansas, Soph.)
35. Udoka Azubuike (7'0'', C, Kansas, Sr.)
36. Jared Butler (6’3’’, PG, Baylor, Soph.)
37. Amar Sylla (6'10'', C, Senegal)
38. Tyler Bey (6'7'', SF, Colorado, Jr.)
39. Kira Lewis (6’3’’, PG, Alabama, Soph.)
40. Nick Richards (6’11’’, C, Kentucky, Jr.)
41. Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, Georgetown, Sr.)
42. Jordan Nwora (6'8'', Louisville, SF, Jr.)
43. Ashton Hagans (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Soph.)
44. Makur Maker (6’11’’, C, High School)
45. Paul Eboua (6'9'', PF, Cameroon)
46. Cassius Winston (6'0'', PG, Michigan State, Sr.)
47. Myles Powell (6’1’’, SG, Seton Hall, Sr.)
48. Filip Petrusev (6'11'', C, Gonzaga, Soph.)
49. Jay Scrubb (6’6’’, SG, John A. Logan College)
50. Charles Bassey (6'10'', PF, Western Kentucky, Soph.)

Not a Kira Lewis fan?

3/24/20

1. Golden State - James Wiseman (7'1'', C, Memphis, Fresh.)
2. Cleveland – LaMelo Ball (6'6'', SG, USA)
3. Minnesota - Anthony Edwards (6'5’', SG, Georgia, Fresh.)
4. Atlanta - Deni Avdija (6'9'', SF, Israel)
5. Detroit – Obi Toppin (6’9’’, SF, Dayton, Soph.)
6. New York – Cole Anthony (6'2'', PG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
7. Chicago - Isaac Okoro (6’6’’, SF, Auburn, Fresh.)
8. Charlotte – Onyeka Okongwu (6’9’’, PF, USC, Fresh.)
9. Washington - Daniel Oturu (6’10’’, C, Minnesota, Soph.)
10. Phoenix - Tyrese Haliburton (6'5'', PG, Iowa State, Soph.)
11. San Antonio - Killian Hayes (6'5'', SG, France)
12. Sacramento - Precious Achiuwa (6'9'', SF, Memphis, Fresh.)
13. New Orleans - RJ Hampton (6'5'', SG, USA)
14. Portland - Isaiah Stewart (6'9'', PF, Washington, Fresh.)
15. Orlando - Devin Vassell (6’6’’, SG, Florida State, Soph.)
16. Minnesota - Jaden McDaniels (6'10'', SF, Washington, Fresh.)
17. Boston – Theo Maledon (6'5'', PG, France)
18. Dallas - Tyrese Maxey (6'3'', SG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
19. Milwaukee – Jahmi’us Ramsey (6’4’’, SG, Texas Tech, Fresh.)
20. Brooklyn – Josh Green (6'6'', SG, Arizona, Fresh.)
21. Denver - Patrick Williams (6’8’’, SF, Florida State, Fresh.)
22. Philadelphia - Nico Mannion (6'2'', PG, Arizona, Fresh.)
23. Miami - Tre Jones (6'3'', PG, Duke, Soph.)
24. Utah - Jalen Smith (6'10'', PF, Maryland, Soph.)
25. Oklahoma City - Vernon Carey (6'10'', C, Duke, Fresh.)
26. Boston - Aaron Nesmith (6’6’’, SF, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
27. New York - Saddiq Bey (6’8’’, SF, Villanova, Soph.)
28. Toronto - Aleksej Pokusevski (7’0’’, C, Serbia)
29. LA Lakers – Reggie Perry (6’9’’, PF, Mississippi State, Soph.)
30. Boston - Udoka Azubuike (7'0'', C, Kansas, Sr.)

31. Dallas - Leandro Bolmaro (6’8’’, SF, Argentina)
32. Charlotte - Kira Lewis (6’3’’, PG, Alabama, Soph.)
33. Minnesota - Tyler Bey (6'7'', SF, Colorado, Jr.)
34. Philadelphia - Paul Reed (6’9’’, PF, DePaul, Jr.)
35. Sacramento - Filip Petrusev (6'11'', C, Gonzaga, Soph.)
36. Philadelphia - Cassius Stanley (6’5’’, SG, Duke, Fresh.)
37. Washington – Jordan Nwora (6'8'', Louisville, SF, Jr.)
38. New York - Trendon Watford (6'9'', PF, LSU, Fresh.)
39. New Orleans - Omer Yurtseven (7'0'', C, Georgetown, Sr.)
40. Memphis - Isaiah Joe (6'5'', SG, Arkansas, Soph.)
41. San Antonio -Xavier Tillman (6’9’’, PF, Michigan State, Jr.)
42. New Orleans - Devon Dotson (6'2'', PG, Kansas, Soph.)
43. Sacramento – Makur Maker (6’11’’, C, High School)
44. Portland - Killian Tillie (6'10'', PF, Gonzaga, Sr.)
45. Orlando - Ashton Hagans (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Soph.)
46. Boston - Cassius Winston (6'0'', PG, Michigan State, Sr.)
47. Chicago - Charles Bassey (6'10'', PF, Western Kentucky, Soph.)
48. Golden State - Jay Scrubb (6’6’’, SG, John A. Logan College)
49. Philadelphia – Amar Sylla (6'10'', C, Senegal)
50. Indiana – Jared Butler (6’3’’, PG, Baylor, Soph.)
51. Oklahoma City - Tres Tinkle (6’7’’, SF, Oregon, State, Sr.)
52. Atlanta - Nick Richards (6’11’’, C, Kentucky, Jr.)
53. Sacramento - Paul Eboua (6'9'', PF, Cameroon)
54. Golden State - Myles Powell (6’1’’, SG, Seton Hall, Sr.)
55. Brooklyn – Malcolm Cazalon (6'6'', SG, France)
56. Charlotte - Kaleb Wesson (6’9’’, PF, Ohio State, Jr.)
57. LA Clippers - Austin Wiley (6’10’’, C, Auburn, Sr.)
58. Toronto - Grant Riller (6’3’’, SG, Charleston, Sr.)
59. Philadelphia – Abdoulaye N’Doye (6’7’’, PG, France)
60. New Orleans -Markus Howard (5’11’’, PG, Marquette, Sr.)

As a Jazz fan, I'd want either Bolmaro, Tyler Bey, or Stanley.

Portland taking a Center over Vassell saddens me haha.

Like the Tillie pick though. He's one of my favorite 2nd round targets for them right now.

Tillman is #1 if they don't plan on bringing Whiteside back.

You have the Knicks making the best value pick in the draft - Saddiq Bey at 27 - so that can't be right.

4/28/20

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/672858/

You are really high on Oturu.

EvanZ wrote:You are really high on Oturu.

I have been all year, but people seem to be coming around. I'm not sure why everyone isn't talking about him as a top ten pick. He's a modern NBA center who can both protect the rim on defense and has range out to the 3 point line on offense. He's a plus athlete and has improved by leaps and bounds between his Freshman and Sophomore years. I don't see a lot of negatives there.

Cammo101 wrote:

EvanZ wrote:You are really high on Oturu.

I have been all year, but people seem to be coming around. I'm not sure why everyone isn't talking about him as a top ten pick. He's a modern NBA center who can both protect the rim on defense and has range out to the 3 point line on offense. He's a plus athlete and has improved by leaps and bounds between his Freshman and Sophomore years. I don't see a lot of negatives there.

How many times have we seen bigs show range in college but go away from it at the next level? I'd say a lot. But I'm a big fan of Oturu as well. I have him going in the 20-30 range.

getrichordie wrote:

Cammo101 wrote:

EvanZ wrote:You are really high on Oturu.

I have been all year, but people seem to be coming around. I'm not sure why everyone isn't talking about him as a top ten pick. He's a modern NBA center who can both protect the rim on defense and has range out to the 3 point line on offense. He's a plus athlete and has improved by leaps and bounds between his Freshman and Sophomore years. I don't see a lot of negatives there.

How many times have we seen bigs show range in college but go away from it at the next level? I'd say a lot. But I'm a big fan of Oturu as well. I have him going in the 20-30 range.

Yeah, it may not translate depending where he ends up, but he has plenty of game inside the 3 point line to fall back on.

I don't get Oturu ranking that high, but that's fine it's personal preference. But how do you explain being so high on Oturu and then having Jalen Smith 24? I think Jalen projects better as a shooter and rim protector.

EvanZ wrote:I don't get Oturu ranking that high, but that's fine it's personal preference. But how do you explain being so high on Oturu and then having Jalen Smith 24? I think Jalen projects better as a shooter and rim protector.

Personally, I put them back-to-back at the end of the lottery the one time I did a mock - can't remember which I had first. They played against each other twice, unless my memory's shot. Both can definitely score in the NBA. Neither has great anticipation on defense - though they get a lot of blocks. It'll be interesting to see how they measure. I think Oturu is a bit longer. Neither seems to have much passing instincts. Stix seems to have the more mature personality. He's worked hard to build up his body and improve his shooting range.

(7/9/20)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/696100/

Post-Draft Lottery Mock (8/21/20)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/758240/

Cammo101 wrote:Post-Draft Lottery Mock (8/21/20)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/758240/

Looks good but I wonder if the Wiz dont take Okongwu

Cammo101 wrote:Post-Draft Lottery Mock (8/21/20)

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/758240/

Vlade is no longer GM so the strange reaches for big men isn’t likely to occur