The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread

Cammo101 · Post #521 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:12 am

Soca wrote:Top 5 mock
1.Cavs-Irving
2.Wolves-Williams
3.Jazz- Knight
4.Cavs-Kanter
5.Raptors-Biyombo

That is really close to what I have...

Cammo101 · Post #522 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:13 am

5/17/11 (Post Draft Lottery)

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
3. Utah - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
5. Toronto - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
7. Sacramento - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
9. Charlotte - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Golden State - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
12. Utah - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF, San Diego State, Soph.)
13. Phoenix - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
14. Houston - Davis Bertans (6'10'', SF, Latvia)
15. Indiana - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
16. Philadelphia - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
17. New York - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
18. Washington - Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
19. Charlotte - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
20. Minnesota - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
21. Portland - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
22. Denver - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
23. Houston - Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
24. Oklahoma City - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
25. Boston - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
26. Dallas - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
27. New Jersey - Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
28. Chicago - Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)
29. San Antonio - Darius Morris (6'4'', PG, Michigan, Soph.)
30. Chicago - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)

31. Miami - Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
32. Cleveland - Josh Selby (6'2'', SG, Kansas, Fresh.)
33. Detroit - Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
34. Washington - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
35. New Jersey - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
36. Sacramento - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
37. LA Clippers - Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
38. Houston - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
39. Charlotte - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
40. Milwaukee - Jamie Skeen (6'9'', PF, VCU, Sr.)
41. LA Lakers - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
42. Indiana - Jereme Richmond (6'7'', SF, Illinois, Fresh.)
43. Chicago - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
44. Golden State - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
45. New Orleans - Charles Jenkins (6'3'', SG, Hofstra, Sr.)
46. LA Lakers - Nikola Vucevic (6'10'', PF, USC, Jr.)
47. LA Clippers - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
48. Atlanta - Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
49. Memphis - DeAndre Liggins (6'6'', SG, Kentucky, Jr.)
50. Philadelphia - Joffrey Lauvergne (6'10'', PF, France)
51. Portland - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
52. Detroit - Justin Holiday (6'6'', SF, Washington, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Michael Dunigan (6'10'', C, USA)
54. Cleveland - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
55. Boston - Jimmy Butler (6'7'', SF, Marquette, Sr.)
56. LA Lakers - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
57. Dallas - Iman Shumpert (6'4'', PG, Georgia Tech, Jr.)
58. LA Lakers - Isaiah Thomas (5'10'', PG, Washington, Jr.)
59. San Antonio - Giorgi Shermadini (7'1'', C, Georgia)
60. Sacramento - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)

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Soca · Post #523 » by **Soca** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:20 am

Singleton to Okc, that would be a great pick.

Don't agree with the Raptor pick. Rapters are extremely soft inside defensively, they need Biyombo.

Dr Positivity · Post #524 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:22 am

Obviously it shouldn't be reflected in mocks, but I am almost certain Utah and Toronto will be making a deal if the Jazz like Kemba/Knight at #3. Since Cleveland isn't taking a PG at 4, Utah moves down and gets their guy at 5 with cash savings - something like dropping Raja Bell's contract, swapping Okur for Barbosa, or just getting 3 mil cash, while taking the lesser salary at 5. It's free money, they get the same guy. Tor has a Bosh TPE to make it work and has an invested interest in taking Kanter/Williams over a PG cause we like Bayless

ipoopinmypants · Post #525 » by **ipoopinmypants** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:28 am

5 Euro big men in the lotto? Times they are a-changin'

Jazzfan12 · Post #526 » by **Jazzfan12** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:31 am

I really hope the Jazz take Walker over Knight. I have a bad feeling they'll try to make Knight into a PG and he'll end up like Jonny Flynn except with way worse playmaking.

wildvikeswolves · Post #527 » by **wildvikeswolves** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:55 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:I really hope the Jazz take Walker over Knight. I have a bad feeling they'll try to make Knight into a PG and he'll end up like Jonny Flynn except with way worse playmaking.

there is no way i could see Knight being as bad as Flynn is

Cammo101 · Post #528 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:03 am

gi4c2om0 wrote:5 Euro big men in the lotto? Times they are a-changin'

Nah, just a flukey combo of a weak college draft and an unusually strong Euro draft. Half of these Euros could have come out last year. Don't expect it to become a trend.

Cammo101 · Post #529 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 18, 2011 3:04 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:I really hope the Jazz take Walker over Knight. I have a bad feeling they'll try to make Knight into a PG and he'll end up like Jonny Flynn except with way worse playmaking.

I think a Harris/Knight combo would be a good fit. Both are something of a combo guard, but they would fit nicely together IMO.

Vides990 · Post #530 » by **Vides990** » Wed May 18, 2011 2:36 pm

Do you actually think the Wolves will take Williams? I'd imagine Kanter or some other big as they already have two tweeners/weird position guys in Beasley and Randolph. I kind of see Williams as Shawn Marion so not sure how he fits on the Wolves. No rude, youve got the best mock(s) on realgm.

Cammo101 · Post #531 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 18, 2011 4:19 pm

Vides990 wrote:Do you actually think the Wolves will take Williams? I'd imagine Kanter or some other big as they already have two tweeners/weird position guys in Beasley and Randolph. I kind of see Williams as Shawn Marion so not sure how he fits on the Wolves. No rude, youve got the best mock(s) on realgm.

I think the pick will ultimately be traded, and there will likely be a handful of teams looking to move up to take Williams.

If Minnesota keeps the pick, they will likely be picking between Williams, Kanter, and Biyombo. Williams is the best prospect of the three, but them taking him will likely depend on how high they are on Beasley. They may take Williams and attempt to move Beasley this offseason.

LPKingsFan · Post #532 » by **LPKingsFan** » Wed May 18, 2011 8:40 pm

This Kings fan would rather take Biyombo or Leonard over Walker at this point.

Cammo101 · Post #533 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 19, 2011 2:02 pm

LPKingsFan wrote:This Kings fan would rather take Biyombo or Leonard over Walker at this point.

All three would be solid picks, but I still like Kemba best for Sacto. They need a point guard to play along side Evans and more than anything they need a leader. Their two best players are not born leaders, so throwing Kemba in the mix could really aid in the development of the other young guys. Kemba is a nice fit next to Evans in the same way he was with Lamb at UConn. He is willing to default when needed and take over when needed. Both Evans and Kemba are half point guard/half shooting guards, so the mix could really work well IMO.

Leonard fills a need but IMO is a reach that early. I can't even think of an above average wing in the NBA with Leonard's combo of average handles and an average jumper. There is a lot to like with Leonard, but he is more of a role player IMO. Biyombo is my favorite prospect of the three, but I don't see a need or a good fit in Sacto.

Jazzfan12 · Post #534 » by **Jazzfan12** » Thu May 19, 2011 3:59 pm

Is Walker really going to be better or different than Marcus Thornton?

Cammo101 · Post #535 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 19, 2011 4:59 pm

Jazzfan12 wrote:Is Walker really going to be better or different than Marcus Thornton?

Whether he is better is debatable, but he is definately different.

Thonton is inconsistent, immature, and a free agent this year. Add to that the fact that Evans playing PG has pretty much been a failure from the start, and you have a clear need for a guy like Kemba. I think Walker would allow Evans to slide to SG and Thornton is more suited for a Crawford like instant offense off the bench role.

A three guard combo of Evans, Thornton, and Walker is nice because they can play together in any combination. IMO Sacramento needs to get a leader who can get the best out of Evans and Cousins and they also need to move Evans off the ball. Taking Walker kills both birds with a single stone.

princeofpalace · Post #536 » by **princeofpalace** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:18 pm

^
If I were Sac, I wouldnt want to run out a Walker/Thornton back court because it is simply too undersized. Walker/Evans, I think lacks shooting so I could see the Kings being worried about that as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Sac took Burks or Lawhi over Kemba. I think Kemba is the better talent but if Kings are thinking about fit then i dont see Kemba as ideal.

Also, Demetri McCamey goes undrafted?

Post #537 » by **KF10** » Thu May 19, 2011 10:35 pm

I wouldn't take Burks over Kemba if I was the Kings. He is a bit redundant with Evans at the backcourt. Both of these guys are slashers and are not the greatest shooters out there. Burks is way too offensive minded to consider him imo. I mean, he isn't that bad of a passer/creator nor a bad defender but I still don't like the fit.

Like Cammo said, Kemba brings in leadership and another ball handler into the lineup. I was in Kemba bandwagon all of this year, I think he will be a nice fit with the Kings.

Dr Positivity · Post #538 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri May 20, 2011 2:41 am

Burks is the worst possible fit for the Kings, one of the rare occasions where they should absolutely pass on BPA cause he and Evans playing on the same court would crack a hole in the universe...

KevinMcreynolds · Post #539 » by **KevinMcreynolds** » Fri May 20, 2011 4:49 am

wildvikeswolves wrote:
Jazzfan12 wrote:I really hope the Jazz take Walker over Knight. I have a bad feeling they'll try to make Knight into a PG and he'll end up like Jonny Flynn except with way worse playmaking.

there is no way i could see Knight being as bad as Flynn is

yeah, but 2 years ago you probably couldn't see Flynn being as bad as Flynn is :lol:

Cammo101 · Post #540 » by **Cammo101** » Sat May 21, 2011 1:10 am

5/20/11 (Post Combine)

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
3. Utah - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
5. Toronto - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
7. Sacramento - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
9. Charlotte - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF, San Diego State, Soph.)
10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Golden State - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
12. Utah - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
13. Phoenix - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
14. Houston - Davis Bertans (6'10'', SF, Latvia)
15. Indiana - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
16. Philadelphia - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
17. New York - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
18. Washington - Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
19. Charlotte - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
20. Minnesota - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
21. Portland - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
22. Denver - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
23. Houston - Darius Morris (6'4'', PG, Michigan, Soph.)
24. Oklahoma City - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
25. Boston - Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
26. Dallas - Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)
27. New Jersey - Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
28. Chicago - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
29. San Antonio - Josh Selby (6'2'', SG, Kansas, Fresh.)
30. Chicago - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)

31. Miami - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
32. Cleveland - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
33. Detroit - Charles Jenkins (6'3'', SG, Hofstra, Sr.)
34. Washington - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
35. New Jersey - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
36. Sacramento - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
37. LA Clippers - Nikola Vucevic (6'10'', PF, USC, Jr.)
38. Houston - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
39. Charlotte - Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
40. Milwaukee - Jimmy Butler (6'7'', SF, Marquette, Sr.)
41. LA Lakers - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
42. Indiana - Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
43. Chicago - Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
44. Golden State - Jereme Richmond (6'7'', SF, Illinois, Fresh.)
45. New Orleans - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
46. LA Lakers - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
47. LA Clippers - Chandler Parsons (6'8'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
48. Atlanta - Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
49. Memphis - DeAndre Liggins (6'6'', SG, Kentucky, Jr.)
50. Philadelphia - Jamie Skeen (6'9'', PF, VCU, Sr.)
51. Portland - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
52. Detroit - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Michael Dunigan (6'10'', C, USA)
54. Cleveland - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
55. Boston - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
56. LA Lakers - Joffrey Lauvergne (6'10'', PF, France)
57. Dallas - Justin Holiday (6'6'', SF, Washington, Sr.)
58. LA Lakers - Isaiah Thomas (5'10'', PG, Washington, Jr.)
59. San Antonio - Iman Shumpert (6'4'', PG, Georgia Tech, Jr.)
60. Sacramento - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)

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