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Post#541 » by princeofpalace » Sat May 21, 2011 1:22 am

I dont like Biyombo but I like that you have gone PF and then 2 PGs for Detroit. I would want Joe D to be thinking along those lines also- bigman at 8, PGs in round 2.
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Post#542 » by Cammo101 » Sat May 21, 2011 1:27 am

princeofpalace wrote:I dont like Biyombo but I like that you have gone PF and then 2 PGs for Detroit. I would want Joe D to be thinking along those lines also- bigman at 8, PGs in round 2.


I actually think Jenkins will be a SG, or at least a combo guard at the NBA level. Biyombo fits so nicely with Monroe IMO and Cole and Jenkins would bring some much needed scoring.
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Post#543 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat May 21, 2011 6:07 am

Ugh, Travis Leslie over Marshon Brooks, Justin Harper and Scotty Hopson?
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Post#544 » by RTM » Sat May 21, 2011 7:10 am

^ Leslie is better than Brooks and Hopson, IMO (and not by a small margin).

Although Harper would be a nice pick..
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Post#545 » by shangrila » Sat May 21, 2011 9:03 am

Leslie is a 6-4 PF who thinks he's better than Tony Allen. He's a better prospect then Hopson, but Brooks and Harper are clearly better.
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Post#546 » by Cammo101 » Sat May 21, 2011 2:13 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Ugh, Travis Leslie over Marshon Brooks, Justin Harper and Scotty Hopson?


I prefer Brooks and Harper to Leslie personally, but I don't think they will be picked before him. Leslie's athleticism and ability to attack the bucket will cause him to be overdrafted IMO.

Hopson is meh for me. Someone will take him in the early 2nd because he can defend, but he has yet to put his game together. Greaty prospect coming out of high school, but his stock seems to drop every season.
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Post#547 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat May 21, 2011 6:52 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Ugh, Travis Leslie over Marshon Brooks, Justin Harper and Scotty Hopson?


I prefer Brooks and Harper to Leslie personally, but I don't think they will be picked before him. Leslie's athleticism and ability to attack the bucket will cause him to be overdrafted IMO.

Hopson is meh for me. Someone will take him in the early 2nd because he can defend, but he has yet to put his game together. Greaty prospect coming out of high school, but his stock seems to drop every season.

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shangrila wrote:Leslie is a 6-4 PF who thinks he's better than Tony Allen. He's a better prospect then Hopson, but Brooks and Harper are clearly better.

I agree with Shang mainly, although I think Hopson is definitely the better prospect.

Leslie has the ceiling of Shanon Brown or Tony Allen and the floor of Hassan Adams.

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Post#548 » by shangrila » Sun May 22, 2011 2:13 pm

Leslie's defence is what puts him above Hopson for me. With his physical tools he could easily be another Tony Allen-type, but after that interview I wonder if he'll ever put it together.
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Post#549 » by Cammo101 » Sun May 22, 2011 3:21 pm

It is not hard to see why scouts like Leslie. He is probably the best athlete in this draft, is a tenacious defender, and attacks the basket well. If he puts it all together, he could be a poor man's Dwyane Wade.
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Post#550 » by Cammo101 » Sun May 22, 2011 5:39 pm

5/22/11

1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, Duke, Fresh.)
2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams (6'9'', PF, Arizona, Soph.)
3. Utah - Enes Kanter (6'11'', PF, Turkey)
4. Cleveland - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', C, Lithuania)
5. Toronto - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
6. Washington - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
7. Sacramento - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Jr.)
8. Detroit - Bismack Biyombo (6'9'', PF, Congo)
9. Charlotte - Tristan Thompson (6'9'', PF, Texas, Fresh.)
10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Soph.)
11. Golden State - Kawhi Leonard (6'7'', SF, San Diego State, Soph.)
12. Utah - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
13. Phoenix - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
14. Houston - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Soph.)
15. Indiana - Klay Thompson (6'6'', SG, Washington State, Jr.)
16. Philadelphia - Markieff Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Jr.)
17. New York - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Sr.)
18. Washington - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Jr.)
19. Charlotte - Jordan Williams (6'10'', C, Maryland, Soph.)
20. Minnesota - Nikola Vucevic (6'11'', PF, USC, Jr.)
21. Portland - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Sr.)
22. Denver - Marshon Brooks (6'5'', SG, Providence, Sr.)
23. Houston - Davis Bertans (6'10'', SF, Latvia)
24. Oklahoma City - Tobias Harris (6'8'', SF, Tennessee, Fresh.)
25. Boston - Tyler Honeycutt (6'8'', SF, UCLA, Soph.)
26. Dallas - Darius Morris (6'4'', PG, Michigan, Soph.)
27. New Jersey - Travis Leslie (6'4'', SG, Georgia, Jr.)
28. Chicago - Justin Harper (6'10'', PF, Richmond, Sr.)
29. San Antonio - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
30. Chicago - Reggie Jackson (6'3'', SG, Boston College, Jr.)

31. Miami - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
32. Cleveland - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Sr.)
33. Detroit - Josh Selby (6'2'', SG, Kansas, Fresh.)
34. Washington - Charles Jenkins (6'3'', SG, Hofstra, Sr.)
35. New Jersey - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Sr.)
36. Sacramento - Nikola Mirotic (6'10'', PF, Montenegro)
37. LA Clippers - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Jr.)
38. Houston - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Sr.)
39. Charlotte - Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
40. Milwaukee - Jimmy Butler (6'7'', SF, Marquette, Sr.)
41. LA Lakers - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Sr.)
42. Indiana - Shelvin Mack (6'2'', PG, Butler, Jr.)
43. Chicago - Scottie Hopson (6'7'', SF, Tennessee, Jr.)
44. Golden State - Jereme Richmond (6'7'', SF, Illinois, Fresh.)
45. New Orleans - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Jr.)
46. LA Lakers - Jon Leuer (6'10'', PF, Wisconsin, Sr.)
47. LA Clippers - Chandler Parsons (6'8'', SF, Florida, Sr.)
48. Atlanta - Greg Smith (6'10'', C, Fresno State, Soph.)
49. Memphis - DeAndre Liggins (6'6'', SG, Kentucky, Jr.)
50. Philadelphia - Jamie Skeen (6'9'', PF, VCU, Sr.)
51. Portland - Furkan Aldemir (6'9'', PF, Turkey)
52. Detroit - Norris Cole (6'2'', PG, Cleveland State, Sr.)
53. Orlando - Michael Dunigan (6'10'', C, USA)
54. Cleveland - E'Twaun Moore (6'4'', SG, Purdue, Sr.)
55. Boston - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
56. LA Lakers - Joffrey Lauvergne (6'10'', PF, France)
57. Dallas - Justin Holiday (6'6'', SF, Washington, Sr.)
58. LA Lakers - Isaiah Thomas (5'10'', PG, Washington, Jr.)
59. San Antonio - Iman Shumpert (6'4'', PG, Georgia Tech, Jr.)
60. Sacramento - Matthew Bryan-Amaning (6'8'', PF, Washington, Sr.)

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Post#551 » by princeofpalace » Sun May 22, 2011 8:49 pm

idk, i can't see Utah drafting 2 bigmen when they already have a logjam. I know there have been reports that they are really high on Donatas, but if they draft Enes at 3 I think they are much better off taking a swing at 12.
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Post#552 » by Cammo101 » Sun May 22, 2011 10:53 pm

princeofpalace wrote:idk, i can't see Utah drafting 2 bigmen when they already have a logjam. I know there have been reports that they are really high on Donatas, but if they draft Enes at 3 I think they are much better off taking a swing at 12.


I agree. I don't think it will be Utah picking at #3 though. But, I do not mock trades. Utah will take one big at max. I expect someone to move into the #3 spot for Kanter and Utah to move down and look at Vesely, Walker, Knight, or Leonard and then pick up Donatas with the #12.
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Post#553 » by shangrila » Mon May 23, 2011 4:28 am

Cammo101 wrote:It is not hard to see why scouts like Leslie. He is probably the best athlete in this draft, is a tenacious defender, and attacks the basket well. If he puts it all together, he could be a poor man's Dwyane Wade.

True, but it's a huge if.
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Post#554 » by Kirsten19 » Mon May 23, 2011 5:14 am

Vucevic's stock is clearly rising. He is a legit 7footer with a NBA body at 260lb with 6.1% body fat( u can tell he has put in a lot of effort for that), and with a 7,4.5" wingspan. He is very skilled offensively and is at least a solid defender; he also outperform Kanter in the draft combine.

Vucevic is seen as the most underrated talent in da draft, along with Reggie Jackson(both play for weak teams). But Vucevic's stock is clearly rising, n some scouts are predicting him at th 20th range. I won't be surprised if he ends up being a lottery pick.

I perfect complement to Greg Monroe imo. He has already been scheduled a workout with the Pistons.
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Post#555 » by Ruzious » Mon May 23, 2011 12:33 pm

Cammo, trust me on this - switch Jordan Williams with Justin Harper. Harper's not far from being an in-shape clone of Derrick Williams. He's definitely behind him, but I think the difference is a lot smaller than people realize. And he's actually taller than Jordan (and Derrick) in the bare feet measurements.

At just 6'9 (I told ya he's no taller than Singleton - you should have known better being a FlaSter. :lol: ), Jordan's going to have to learn to play facing the basket - and he's never done that before. And considering his foul foul shooting, there shouldn't be much hope for him being able to nail mid range jumpers.
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Post#556 » by DanTown8587 » Mon May 23, 2011 5:06 pm

Got to tell me why Jereme Richmond is getting drafted. Guy is talented but horrible character question marks and he was MIA before last week.

Also think Selby and Tyler are a little too low.
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Post#557 » by Cammo101 » Mon May 23, 2011 8:18 pm

Cammo101 wrote:6/26/10

Because it is never too early...


1. New Jersey - Harrison Barnes (6'8'', SF, High School)
2. Minnesota - Jan Vesely (6'11'', SF, Czech Republic)
3. Golden State - Perry Jones (6'11'', SF, High School)
4. Washington - Enes Kanter (6'10'', PF, High School)
5. Indiana - Kyrie Irving (6'2'', PG, High School)
6. Detroit - Donatas Motiejunas (7'0'', PF, Lithuania)
7. Toronto - Brandon Knight (6'3'', PG, High School)
8. Philadelphia - Jared Sullinger (6'9'', PF, High School)
9. Sacramento - Jonas Valanciunas (6'10'', PF, Lithuania)
10. Charlotte - John Henson (6'10'', PF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
11. LA Clippers - Jordan Hamilton (6'7'', SF, Texas, Fresh.)
12. New Orleans - CJ Leslie (6'8'', SF, High School)
13. New York - Josh Selby (6'1'', PG, High School)
14. Memphis - Jeffery Taylor (6'7'', SF, Vanderbilt, Soph.)
15. Cleveland - Trey Thompkins (6'9'', PF, Georgia, Soph.)
16. Atlanta - Aaric Murray (6'10'', C, La Salle, Fresh.)
17. Houston - Kyle Singler (6'9'', SF, Duke, Jr.)
18. Chicago - Alec Burks (6'6'', SG, Colorado, Fresh.)
19. Milwaukee - Jeremy Tyler (6'10'', PF, USA)
20. Miami - Chris Singleton (6'8'', SF, Florida State, Soph.)
21. San Antonio - Elias Harris (6'8'', SF, Gonzaga, Fresh.)
22. Boston - William Buford (6'5'', SG, Ohio State, Soph.)
23. Portland - Cory Joseph (6'3'', PG, High School)
24. Utah - Robert Sacre (7'0'', C, Gonzaga, Soph.)
25. Denver - Abdul Gaddy (6'3'', PG, Washington, Fresh.)
26. Oklahoma City - Scotty Hopson (6'7'', SG, Tennessee, Soph.)
27. Phoenix - Marcus Morris (6'9'', PF, Kansas, Soph.)
28. Dallas - Wesley Witherspoon (6'8'', SF, Memphis, Soph.)
29. LA Lakers - Kemba Walker (6'0'', PG, UConn, Soph.)
30. Orlando - Jimmer Fredette (6'2'', PG, BYU, Jr.)

31. New Jersey - LaceDarius Dunn (6'4'', SG, Baylor, Jr.)
32. Minnesota - Mason Plumlee (6'11'', PF, Duke. Fresh.)
33. Golden State - Renardo Sidney (6'10'', PF, Mississippi State, Fresh.)
34. Washington - Greg Smith (6'10'', PF, Fresno State, Fresh.)
35. Indiana - JaMychal Green (6'8'', PF, Alabama, Soph.)
36. Detroit - Malcolm Lee (6'5'', SG, UCLA, Soph.)
37. Toronto - Kenneth Faried (6'8'', PF, Morehead State, Jr.)
38. Philadelphia - Kris Joseph (6'7'', SF, Syracuse, Soph.)
39. Sacramento - Robin Benzing (6'10'', SF, Germany)
40. Charlotte - Malcolm Delaney (6'3'', PG, Virginia Tech, Jr.)
41. LA Clippers - Keith Benson (6'11'', C, Oakland, Jr.)
42. New Orleans - Pablo Aguilar (6'8'', PF, Spain)
43. New York - Arnett Moultrie (6'10'', PF, UTEP, Soph.)
44. Memphis - Antoine Diot (6'4'', PG, France)
45. Cleveland - Tyshawn Taylor (6'3'', PG, Kansas, Soph.)
46. Atlanta - Milan Macvan (6'9'', PF, Serbia)
47. Houston - Demetri McCamey (6'3'', PG, Illinois, Jr.)
48. Chicago - Yancy Gates (6'9'', PF, Cincinnati, Soph.)
49. Milwaukee - Kalin Lucas (6'0'', PG, Michigan State, Jr.)
50. Miami - Durand Scott (6'4'', SG, Miami, Fresh.)
51. San Antonio - Bojan Bogdanovic (6'7'', SF, Croatia)
52. Boston - Derrick Williams (6'8'', SF, Arizona, Fresh.)
53. Portland - Chandler Parsons (6'9'', SF, Florida, Jr.)
54. Utah - JaJuan Johnson (6'10'', PF, Purdue, Jr.)
55. Denver - Durrell Summers (6'5'', SG, Michigan State, Jr.)
56. Oklahoma City - Nolan Smith (6'3'', SG, Duke, Jr.)
57. Phoenix - Corey Fisher (6'1'', PG, Villanova, Jr.)
58. Dallas - Alex Oriakhi (6'9'', PF, UConn, Fresh.)
59. LA Lakers - Anatoly Bose (6'6'', SG, Nichols State, Jr.)
60. Orlando - Chris Wright (6'7'', SF, Dayton, Jr.)


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Almost a year later, this was not all that far off on most guys. Though I certainly owe Derrick Williams an apology.

It is always weird to go this far back and see what your mocks looked like.
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Re: The Official 2011 Cammo Mock Draft Thread 

Post#558 » by Casperkid23 » Wed May 25, 2011 2:31 am

Cammo101 wrote:Almost a year later, this was not all that far off on most guys.

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Post#559 » by Kaner » Wed May 25, 2011 3:52 am

Casperkid23 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Almost a year later, this was not all that far off on most guys.

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Post#560 » by perezident » Wed May 25, 2011 4:32 am

Kaner wrote:
Casperkid23 wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:Almost a year later, this was not all that far off on most guys.

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