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Updated 6/22/2011 - Full First Round - Possible Last Edition 

Post#1 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Nov 6, 2010 6:06 am

1. Harrison Barnes
2. Kyrie Irving
3. Perry Jones
4. Enes Kanter
5. Alec Burks
6. Jared Sullinger
7. Brandon Knight
8. Jan Vesely
9. Cory Joseph
10. Trey Thompkins
11. Josh Selby
12. Elias Harris
13. John Henson
14. William Buford

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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#2 » by Cammo101 » Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:51 pm

I think Harris is a lower upside guy, so he will have trouble cracking the lotto. Good player though. Not too high on the Euros huh?
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#3 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Nov 9, 2010 7:07 pm

I think Harris has a lot of current Millsap to him with a better foundation for a perimeter game. He doesn't have star potential, but I think he has high level starter potential with an immediate instant impact, so I don't see much of a problem with him going late lotto.

I don't know much about the Euro's outside of Vesely, Kanter and Moteijunas, so for now I erred on the side of caution, plus I'm not big on Moteijunas even if he declares.
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#4 » by brassviews » Tue Nov 9, 2010 7:12 pm

Vesely has digressed. Motiejunas is not even worthy of lottery. Either Kanter or Valanciunas will go in top 3, most likely Kanter since he's a college player. Valanciunas has the most upside of any big man in draft, but he might not declare. Overall, it looks like poor draft for European-International players.
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#5 » by Cammo101 » Tue Nov 9, 2010 7:19 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I think Harris has a lot of current Millsap to him with a better foundation for a perimeter game. He doesn't have star potential, but I think he has high level starter potential with an immediate instant impact, so I don't see much of a problem with him going late lotto.

I don't know much about the Euro's outside of Vesely, Kanter and Moteijunas, so for now I erred on the side of caution, plus I'm not big on Moteijunas even if he declares.


Milsap is a pretty good example, and also a 2nd round pick. Every year a guy like that falls too far because of their low upside.
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#6 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:35 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:I think Harris has a lot of current Millsap to him with a better foundation for a perimeter game. He doesn't have star potential, but I think he has high level starter potential with an immediate instant impact, so I don't see much of a problem with him going late lotto.

I don't know much about the Euro's outside of Vesely, Kanter and Moteijunas, so for now I erred on the side of caution, plus I'm not big on Moteijunas even if he declares.


Milsap is a pretty good example, and also a 2nd round pick. Every year a guy like that falls too far because of their low upside.

I mean I mainly agree with the concept, a majority of the time it seems to reign true, but at the same time if scouts and GM's were in agreement that Elias Harris was going to be just like Millsap with even bigger potential as a perimeter scorer, I think they would take a player like that in the late lotto, that ceiling is a pretty high one.
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#7 » by hotshotschamp » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:30 am

I approve of the lofty ranking of Alec Burks, I think he's going to be a phenom this year.
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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#8 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:27 pm

Update: November 23rd - Lotto Only

1. Los Angeles Clippers - Jarred Sullinger
2. Houston Rockets - Kyrie Irving
3. Philadelphia 76ers - Terrence Jones
4. Minnesota Timberwolves - Harrison Barnes
5. New Jersey - Perry Jones
6. Sacramento Kings - Enes Kanter
7. Washington Wizards - Alec Burks
8. Memphis Grizzlies -Brandon Knight
9. Toronto Raptors - Jan Vesely
10. Charlotte Bobcats - John Henson
11. Detroit Pistons - Kemba Walker
12. Milwaukee Bucks - William Buford
13. Golden State Warriors - Marcus Morris
14. Phoenix Suns - Josh Selby

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Re: First Crack at the First Round 2011, Lotto Only 

Post#9 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:30 pm

Updated January 31st 2011

1. Cleveland Cavs - Kyrie Irving
2. Sacramento Kings - Perry Jones
3. Minnesota Timberwolves -Jonas Valanciunas
4. New Jersey Nets - Terrence Jones
5. Washington Wizards - Jarred Sullinger
6. Toronto Raptors - Derrick Williams
7. Detroit Pistons - Enes Kanter
8. Milwaukee Bucks - Jordan Hamilton
9. Los Angeles Clippers - Kemba Walker
10. Charlotte Bobcats - Alec Burks
11. Golden State Warriors - Harrison Barnes
12. Houston Rockets - Corey Joseph
13. Phoenix Suns - Donatas Motiejunas
14. Memphis Grizzlies - John Henson
15. Indiana Pacers - Tristan Thompson
16. Philadelphia 76ers - Tyler Honeycutt
17. Portland Trailblazers - Brandon Knight
18. New York Knicks - Jimmer Fredette
19. Denver Nuggets - Marcus Morris
20. New Orleans Hornets - Jan Vesely
21. Orlando Magic - Keith Benson
22. Atlanta Hawks - Josh Selby
23. Dallas Mavericks - Scotty Hopson
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - Trey Thompkins
25. Utah Jazz - Nolan Smith
26. Chicago Bulls - David Lighty
27. Toronto Raptors - Kris Joseph
28. New Jersey Nets - Demetri McCamey
29. Boston Celtics - Marshon Brooks
30. San Antonio Spurs - Chris Singleton

34. New Jersey Nets - Klay Thompson
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Re: Updated 1/31/2011 Full First Round 

Post#10 » by gswhoops » Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:23 pm

Barnes is a good pick for the Warriors. Good mock overall IMO, no one strikes me as way too high or too low.
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Re: Updated 1/31/2011 Full First Round 

Post#11 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:52 pm

Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt?
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Post#12 » by pad300 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:40 pm

Kyle Single doesn't go 1st round? Not sure I believe that.
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Re: Updated 1/31/2011 Full First Round 

Post#13 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:39 am

shaolin wrote:Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt?

pad300 wrote:Kyle Single doesn't go 1st round? Not sure I believe that.


I don't see the outrage here? They certainly may go in the first, but around pick 18 to 20 is probably both's ceiling and it would be one of those half reach picks where everyone is like, he'll probably be a role player so he's solid value, but how could you pick that guy over player A, B, C, D, etc.
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Re: Updated 1/31/2011 Full First Round 

Post#14 » by Ruzious » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:47 am

Chris Singleton should go long before Marcus Morris.
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Re: Updated 1/31/2011 Full First Round 

Post#15 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:10 pm

Ruzious wrote:Chris Singleton should go long before Marcus Morris.

Yeah, I didn't know exactly where to slot him.

I wouldn't go higher then where I have Morris right now, probably should have Morris a touch lower with Singleton a spot or two before him, but honestly I don't know, Morris could easily go before him when it's all over with.
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Re: Updated May 10th - Full First Round 2011 

Post#16 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 4:38 am

Updated May 10th 2011

1. Minnesota Timberwolves - Kyrie Irving
2. Cleveland Cavaliers - Derrick Williams
3. Toronto Raptors - Enes Kanter
4. Washington Wizards - Jonas Valanciunas
5. Sacramento Kings - Brandon Knight
6. Utah Jazz - Alec Burks
7. Detroit Pistons - Bismack Biyombo
8. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jan Vesely
9. Charlotte Bobcats - Tristan Thompson
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Klay Thompson
11. Golden State Warriors - Kawhi Leonard
12. Utah Jazz - Kemba Walker
13. Phoenix Suns - Donatas Motiejunas
14. Houston Rockets - Marcus Morris
15. Indiana Pacers - Kenneth Faried
16. Philadelphia 76ers - Jordan Hamilton
17. New York Knicks - Jimmer Fredette
18. Washington Wizards - Tyler Honeycutt
19. Charlotte Bobcats - Cory Joseph
20. Minnesota Timberwolves - Tobias Harris
21. Portland Trailblazers - Reggie Jackson
22. Denver Nuggets - Markieff Morris
23. Houston Rockets - Nolan Smith
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - Chris Singleton
25. Boston Celtics - JaJuan Johnson
26. Dallas Mavericks - Justin Harper
27. New Jersey Nets - Keith Benson
28. Chicago Bulls - Jordan Williams
29. San Antonio Spurs - David Betrans
30. Chicago Bulls - Marshon Brooks

35. New Jersey Nets - Scotty Hopson
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#17 » by Silver Man » Tue May 10, 2011 5:33 am

Don't get me wrong I like Klay Thompson, but do you really think he'll go 10th?

Anyways I like the Kings going with Knight if they end up with the 5th.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#18 » by djthesonicsfan » Tue May 10, 2011 6:22 am

I hope you're right about Singleton to the notSonics. Frankly, I don't think he will still be there at 24. I'd be content if we got Honeycutt or Harris.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#19 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue May 10, 2011 6:45 am

Silver Man wrote:Don't get me wrong I like Klay Thompson, but do you really think he'll go 10th?

I really think he has one more big jump in store for him.

He's cracked the lotto in both major mocks for a couple updates before going back into the late teens, but I think he's one of the most overlooked players in this draft.

His advanced stats are almost a mirror image of Alec Burks.

I don't understand how people watch this kid play and don't see the potential for him to be a very good player in the NBA.
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Re: Updated 5/10/2011 - Full First Round 

Post#20 » by Jersey Generals » Tue May 10, 2011 7:18 am

I don't think Cory Joseph is going to drop past the Knicks.

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