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2011 Mock Draft (1-60 with commentary)

Posted: Wed Mar 2, 2011 11:04 pm
by babyjax13
Note:
A line indicates points in the draft where I feel there is a clear talent drop off, or a group of players that likely won't rise past "x" point (for example, I think Irving is a lock for the first pick, but others have a strong case as well). I could easily envision these players going in the complete opposite order within their range (for example, Knight between 5-8).

First Round
1. Cleveland - Kyrie Irving
Someone up top will need a point guard, Irving is looking like the best one in the class of 2011 at this point. He is an explosive athlete and has good shooting mechanics. Amazing ball handler with great end-to-end speed and anticipation.

Why Cleveland? Kyrie is a consensus #1 pick.
NBA Comparison: Mike Conley
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2. Minnesota - Derrick Williams
I've got a bit of a revised opinion on Williams because of the lead up to the draft process and a few additional games I was able to watch. I've warmed up on him quite a bit, but I still don't think that he is super-star material. What I do see, however, is a player that has a wide variety of skills including nice post moves and an effective - albeit unorthodox - jumper. He reminds be very much of what Paul Millsap has morphed into, an athletic do-it-all forward who can rebound and step out to hit the three point shot at a good rate despite how ugly his jumper is.

Why Minnesota? I don't think they keep the pick.
NBA Comparison: Paul Millsap

3. Utah - Brandon Knight
Another player that I have really changed my opinion on throughout workouts and through watching some additional footage. I really love his jumpshot and instincts on the defensive end. Those are two skills that will ensure that he sticks in the league. What I don't like are some of his poor decisions on the court and his sometimes poor ball handling with his right hand. I think he can weed out some of those bad habits, though I still think he will be turnover prone as a point guard.
NBA Comparison: Mike Bibby

4. Cleveland - Enes Kanter
The year of the European bigs. Kanter is a very polished interior player with a variety of post moves and a nose for the ball. Not explosive or huge, but athletic enough to get the job done as a "true post." Very limited amount of video with him, so a lot of this is based on "gut first impressions."

Why Cleveland? I think Enes has the most potential out of this entire draft class.
NBA Comparison: Not Al Horford
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5. Toronto - Bismack Biyombo
Cool name. Respectable stats in the ACB. I think everyone heard about the triple double in the Hoops Summit, that exposure should really boost his draft stock. He has better court awareness that what I expected, he gets his body on a man when he boxes out, he sets good screens - but he also seems to get lost on offense (he's a great athlete, though). I have seen a very limited amount of this kid.

Why Detroit? I think he is a good fit with Monroe.
NBA Comparison: Clueless

6. Washington - Kawhi Leonard
Good rebounder and he has a knack for getting steals. Really hustles when he is on the court, great athlete. Reminds me a bit of Dante Cunningham. Will fit into an uptempo team because of his ball handling abilities. Not really a scorer and his jump shot is god-awful.

Why Sacramento? 1. Rumors 2. They need a good small forward 3. They are short on defenders.
NBA Comparison: Early career Gerald Wallace

7. Sacramento - Tristian Thompson
Athletic, strong, looks like he'll be a good player. Very raw on offense but is a decent finisher around the rim. Will mostly be a complimentary player on offense his first few years, at best a 4th or 5th option.
NBA Comparison: Brandon Bass

8. Detroit - Kemba Walker
A gifted scorer, as a great ability to create separation and get his shot off, very fast and has very good ball handling abilities. A volume shooter and not the best distributer, these are areas that he has to improve in, but I think that he can do it. Great free throw shooter. Warming up to him as a top ten pick, but I think that if he goes top 5 he's going to be a big disappointment.

NBA Comparison: Ty Lawson
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9. Charlotte - Jonas Valanciunas
Big and young. Scouts will drool over his potential. He looks like a decent player to me, but he needs to bulk up (about 15 pounds) to really be effective in the NBA. He's not a plodder like some centers, but he also isn't extremely athletic or mobile like Tyson Chandler, etc.

Why Charlotte? All the best players left have huge question marks, so draft for size and potential.
NBA Comparison: Sort of reminds me of Marc Gasol.....through very limited amounts of video I have been able to see from him.

10. Milwaukee - Alec Burks
Jump shot looks better than shooting percentage implies. Goes after rebounds hard, good at recognizing where the ball will go. Great passer and ball handler – his teammates are so inept that his assist numbers are lower than what they should be…seems to be an above average defender despite what is being said.

Why the Bucks? Burks brings the scoring punch they lack, and if Salmons plays well could fit well next to him.
NBA Comparison: Again, clueless. I know what he does well but still haven't fingered a player I really think is similar.

11. Golden State - Klay Thompson
About the only decent wing left at this point in the draft. Really great shooter and scorer but lacks athleticism and has been a liability on defense throughout his college career. In the NBA these strengths will be punctuated. I firmly believe that Klay is the best shooting guard in the draft.

Why Golden State? I think Leonard makes the most sense, but he's not going to be there when the Warriors draft.
NBA Comparison: Kevin Martin

12. Utah - Donatus Motiejunas
Has great length and height. Needs to pack some muscle on his frame to become a true threat in the post. Will get knocked around his first couple of years in the NBA, but with the right conditioning could become a threat. Has really upped his stock after the 2010 draft, which is something that I didn't expect to happen. He's so incredibly skilled, he's mobile and he can shoot. He doesn't take great care of the ball (has a tendency to let it get poked out), but he looks like a very good offensive player. I also wonder if his defensive struggles aren't overexagerated. He's really skinny, and I think with his build he should play power forward (narrow shoulders a la Dirk) but once he adds enough weight to hold position in the post with his height he should be fairly decent. This, again, is from a limited amount of video.

Why Utah? 1. Size 2. Potential 3. Rumors.
NBA Comparison: The 1,000th Dirk comparison

13. Phoenix - Jimmer Fredette
One of the most cerebral scorers in the NCAA. Has a great feel for the game. Fantastic distrubuter, great shooter. The most impressing aspect of his game to me is the way in which he can change directions. His defense is questionable, but he is such a good offensive player and so smart that I can't see him out of the lottery in any draft.

Why the Suns? Jimmer just makes sense, and in my mind, has great upside, and awful lot more than Kemba.
NBA Comparison: Stephen Curry

14. Houston - Jan Vesely
he's more of a small forward than a power forward. He's got great instincts moving without the ball, he is a great athlete and he has the potential to be a very good player. His ability to catch the ball could be a bit of an issue as he appears not to have the softest touch around.

Why Washington? They already have enough guys that can score the ball, they need players who can defend now, and I think Jan should do extremely well as a hybrid 3/4 in an uptempo system.
NBA Comparison: Andrei Kirilenko
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15. Indiana - Marcus Morris
One of the most physical players in college basketball. Has great instincts on defense and is a very good player on offense with his footwork and effort around the basket. Decent jumper, the position he translates to is still in question.

16. Philadelphia - Nikola Vucevic
He's incredibly strong for a college player, and he relies on it a bit too much, but he also is a very good shooter and he's got a great wingspan. His post game is also very highly developed and he is a great rebounder.

17. New York - Josh Selby
Has really great potential for being this far back in the draft. Scores in bunches but was not very efficient at Kansas this past year - could be a result of the system and the fact that he missed a large chunk of the season. Shooting guard in a point guard's body.
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18. Washington (Atlanta) - Chris Singleton
His defense is fantastic, he's a good athlete, he has the potential to be one of the top defenders in the league, but I am afraid his offense (or lack thereof) won't transfer well.

Why? He fits in immediately with their core.
NBA Comparison: Thabo Sefelosha

19. Charlotte (New Orleans) - Tyler Honeycutt
Have been completely unimpressed. Not overly athletic, not a great shooter, not a great ball handler. Sort of a jack of all trades type of player but he really is not great at anything. Too small to be an effective power forward and too slow to be an effective small forward.

20. Minnesota (Memphis) - Marshon Brooks
The combine, combined with his freakish college stats have made his stock rise dramatically.

21. Portland - Reggie Jackson
Shoots great percentages (50/42/80), scores well (18 per game), good rebounder for a point gaurd (4) and nice size at 6-3, 208. Haven't seen him play, but rumor has it that he has shot up draft boards...

22. Denver - Jordan Hamilton
A talented scorer with a nice shooting stroke. Inconsistent. Very unimpressive in the games that I watched, sometimes seemed like a bit of a loose cannon on offense and at other times wasn't aggressive at all. Seems to have good ball handling, decent defender and good shooter; the think I worry about with Hamilton is the mental aspect of the game. Looks like he could play either wing position.

23. Houston - Iman Shumpert
Another prospect I really like. Great scorer, athletic, really attacks the rim, good shooter from midrange. I think he'll be a great role player at the next level.

24. Oklahoma City - Chandler Parsons
"Measurables" pick of the year.

25. Boston - Jeremy Tyler
Someone is going to take the chance that he can develop into a good player. With his combine measurements I would not be surprised if he rose a bit, and with some good workouts he could be a candidate for that first round bubble. There is no better place for a young player like Tyler to develop than on a team with a winning culture and a good chance of being a playoff contender.

26. Dallas - Davis Bertans
Don't know much about him. Rumor has it that he is moving up draft boards, so don't be surprised if he ends up in the first round.

27. New Jersey (LA Lakers) - JaJuan Johnson
Smooth offensive player, dominating defender at the college level, lots of experience in big games. I feel like he is a lottery talent, but I doubt that he goes that high.

28. Chicago (Miami) - Charles Jenkins
Another one of the many point guards in this draft who plays more like a shooting guard. It is a toss-up of who between he, Selby, Mack and Nolan Smith become the better player (IMO), but I think Charles' skill-set lend him well to a team like the Bulls or Wizards that have a larger point guard.

29. San Antonio - Markeiff Morris
Much less impressed by him than his brother, but others disagree. A bit bigger, very physical. Could fit well on a playoff team.

30. Chicago - Tobias Harris
Overrated.

Second Round

31. Miami (Minnesota) - Darius Morris
Rising stock, but didn't rise enough.

32. Cleveland - Kenneth Faried
A fantastic rebounder and defender. Has a very good body at the college level, but has the potential to become one of the strongest players in the NBA with his wide shoulders. Great anticipation on defense, needs to work on becoming more proficient in the post.

33. Detroit (Toronto) - Travis Leslie
Athletic, tough, good rebounder and defender for a guard.

34. Washington - Jimmy Butler
Another riser, had an incredible season at Marquette, great shooter, decent all around player but lacking the skill that could make him into an above-average NBA player. Jereme Richmond
Didn't really pay all that much attention to him when he played at OSU, but I think that with his athletic ability he should make the tail-end of the first round.

35. Sacramento - Malcom Lee
Never really did anything to set himself apart from the rest of the wings available in this draft. Could go as high as the late first round and as low as the middle of the second round (fancy that).

36. New Jersey - Bojan Bogdanovic
Looking to move into the first round, maybe as high as the late lottery. Great stats in Europe, I just don't know enough about him. I've got him nailed to the Nets, if he moves it will be to #27. I think that Prok is about the only guy willing to mess with big buyouts, and Bojan, to me, sounds like he's worth it.
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37. LA Clippers (Detroit) - Rick Jackson
I love this kid, extremely physical, fights for every rebound, fun to watch - the perfect backup power forward.

38. Houston (LA Clippers) - Justin Harper
Good shooter for a big, spreads the floor, decent ball hanlder for a power forward (if that's where he ends up).

39. Charlotte - Nolan Smith
Nolan Smith is a bit of an enigma. He's undersized, but his scoring and shooting abilities are great. Gets overlooked because of his physical build, but good be a decent player at the next level.

40. Milwaukee - Jordan Williams
Great stats on good efficiency, a bit worried about his athleticism, but he seems to be answering some of those questions.

41. LA Lakers (Golden State) - Jon Luer
Big, good shooter and rebounder...that's about all I know...

42. Golden State (Utah) - Vernon Macklin
Best prospect left on the board, another guy I really like. Athletic with good size, great defender, no offense. He will strictly be a role player because of his offensive limitations, but he's got all the right tools to be a game-changer on defense.

43. Chicago (Phoenix) - Trey Tompkins
Has a lot of basketball skills that traditional power forwards don't have. He's a good shooter with good fundamentals when he has the ball. His physical abilities are underwhelming, but he has decent size at 6-9, 245. His value won't ever be any higher than it is now.

44. LA Clippers (Houston) - Kyle Singler
Another of those "fundamental" players. He is a good shooter, ball handler and has a very high basketball IQ - unfortunantly his physical build is fairly unimpressive.

45. Indiana - Demetri McCamey
Good ball distributor, strong and big for a point guard, can score in a variety of ways. Not overly fast or explosive, but gets the job done. Could really rise in the coming weeks based on his workouts.
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46. New Orleans (Philadelphia) - Nikola Mirotic
Doesn't sound like he'll come to the NBA, that should be enough to drop him into the second round.

47. LA Lakers (New York) - Shelvin Mack
Really strong for a point guard, great shooter with range. He gets his shot off very quickly, is good at using his wide frame to create space and can get into the painted area and finish. Questionable potential as a "true" point guard.

48. Atlanta - Keith Benson
Freakish stats, didn't look like a 'special' player when I saw him play (once).

49. Philadelphia (New Orleans) - Jereme Richmond
Huge value pick late in the draft.

50. Memphis - David Lighty
Very inconsistent shooter, but good defender and athlete. Not a lottery type prospect, 5th year senior so he is quite old for just entering the NBA, which leads to the question of whether or not his game will transfer over well but he has little room for growth. Seems a bit undersized but makes up for it with his strength.

51. Portland - Mathew Bryan-Ammaning
Athletic big with decent size and a nice skill-set. Could be a big riser in the draft if he proves he has a bit more polish on offense than he showed in college.

52. Detroit (Denver) - Bill Clark
Could be a bit of a surprise in the draft. Great shooter, decent size for a guard, looks like a decent role player.

53. Orlando - Cory Joseph
Good shooter who looks like a pure point guard. His problem is not going to be his ability to run an offense but being a point guard that sticks out from all the others out there, and whether or not he has enough passion and skill to fight for a starting spot.

54. Cleveland (OKC) - Jamie Skeen
Slow, but pretty talented with a nice jumper and great strength. Likely to rise a bit in this draft.
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55. Boston - Diante Garret
Another value pick late in the draft. Could go a bit higher come draft night, but this year is just full of point guards.

56. Dallas - Justin Holiday
I'll buy the draft express hype. Givony is pretty good at pegging second rounders, so I think that Holiday has a good chance of getting drafted. Didn't impress me in college, but there are a lot of players who didn't impress me and end up doing well.

57. LA Lakers - Xavi Rabeseda
LA will need to do some "draft and stash" if they keep this many picks, so I just randomly inserted a guy with a cool looking name.

58. LA Lakers - Gary McGhee
McGhee has one good NBA skill, his rebounding. For a team lacking center depth he could be a good option in the second round.

59. San Antonio - Evan Fournier
A typical late San Antonio pick is to pick a young foreign player no one has on their radar and let them develop for several years overseas....so why not do it again?

60. San Antonio - Michael Dunnigan
Know nothing about him, but see above.

Bubble:

Jamine Peterson
My pick for biggest steal of the draft, I love what this kid does. This is what I wrote about him last year: "Very good rebounder (11 per game) for his size (6-6). Has the potential to add a lot of muscle to his frame. An extremely good jumper. Quick in the post but still needs some work on his shooting (34% from college 3), some minor adjustments could make him an inside-out threat at power forward. He has had a pair of 20+ rebound games this year. Will most likely stay in school in order to make himself into a first round pick."

E'Twan Moore
Good scorer in college, but I don't think he really has what it takes in the NBA.

Isaiah Thomas
Fun to watch, gets inside well, great athlete. As many have mentioned, he's a 5-8 shooting guard.

Kris Joseph
Poor shooter, good defender - tough..... The way he plays without Wesley Johnson gone and the focus of the defense on him will have a huge impact on his draft stock. Expected by many to establish himself as a potential lottery pick, and he just didn't do it.

Scotty Hopson
I love his aggressiveness and the way he gets to the rim. Not a bad shooter, but his main value is what he can do with his athleticism.

Corey Fisher
Admittedly I have caught him in his best performances, but boy is he exciting when he is hot. He is a very small point guard, but is also fairly quick and great at creating separation. Great shooter and penetrator; he is faster than most point guards at the college level, but I don’t know that he is fast enough at the NBA level. Needs to get a bit stronger and he should have a good transition to the NBA. Very good shooting form, but still room to improve (elbow goes out to the side a bit).

Cade Davis
Fanstastic shooter, great athlete and defender. He is a senior so his ceiling isn't as high as players drafter earlier, but I think he can be a fantastic player, especially if he slips through the cracks into the second round. This is my homer pick of the year (Sooners fan).

Bryan Qvale
Good "fundamentals" player. Great rebounder, good finisher inside, softish hands, can spread the floor....not coordinated at all.

Josh Harrellson
See above.

Tim Abromitas
One of the purest shooters I have ever seen. Quick, smooth release, nothing shaky. Outside of his jump-shot he really isn't anything special. He's a bit slow to play small forward, and too light to play power forward. I see him as a Steve Novak type player.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:02 am
by S.W.A.N
Raptors taking a PF? not likely unless a very very clear level of talent difference over the available players....

barnes way more likely to be selected by raps if talent levels simular

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:38 pm
by teamjosh04
Oh boy...where to start?

Harrison Barnes is crafty with the ball? I think one of his main problems is how vanilla he is on offense. He can handle it, but he doesnt show much more than a pump fake followed by a drive to the hoop. He relies on Marshall to create offense for him.

Marcus Morris is not one of the most physical players in college basketball. He is an average rebounder and hangs out by the 3-pt line too much. His post game is based on finesse moves.

Brandon Knight - you are all over the place with him. Hard to tell what your thoughts are on him. You call him a decent shooter at first, then later talk about his shot glowingly. You say he dominates the ball and somehow figure that a ball dominant guard is best to play next to another ball dominant SG? He's definitely athletic enough for the league, the only question in that aspect is his average first step.

Henson is lethargic? He may not always be taking control on offense because he knows his limitations, but he gives great effort consistently. Evans isnt a terrible comp, but Henson has a few inches and years on him, so he's a lot better of a prospect.

Leonard doesnt remind me of Cunningham at all. Cunningham was much more of a true PF in college with a good post and face up game. Leonard on the otherhand, displays some guard skills and is a huge difference maker on the defensive end. He gets his points of athleticism and hustle, unlike Cunningham who benefited from a polished post game.

Corey Fisher - No.

How is Jeff Taylor a tweener? He is the most prototypical SF in this draft. Great size, strength, athleticism, and skills. Has no problem defending on the perimeter, can shoot it, and drives to the basket well. The question with him isnt about position. Its about consistency/production and finishing near the hoop.

You thinking Cade Davis is even a D-League prospect has got to be a complete joke. Are you his dad?

CJ and Travis Leslie are not brothers. haha

From what you write, and even admit, its obvious you have only seen most of these guys a couple of times at most.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:55 pm
by Rockmaninoff
If the Bucks pick Marcus Morris over Brandon Knight or Jordan Hamilton, I'll be finding a new team to root for.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 12:41 am
by babyjax13
Harrison Barnes is crafty with the ball? I think one of his main problems is how vanilla he is on offense. He can handle it, but he doesnt show much more than a pump fake followed by a drive to the hoop. He relies on Marshall to create offense for him.


Maybe crafty with the ball isn't the right term, but he certainly gets inside well and is a strong finisher.

Marcus Morris is not one of the most physical players in college basketball. He is an average rebounder and hangs out by the 3-pt line too much. His post game is based on finesse moves.


His effort level is extremely high, he operates well in the post (shoots 60%) and has the ability to spread the floor. Do I like that he shoots so much from outside? Not really, but I think it will make his interior game transition much better. He finishes well with contact, and averages 9.2 boards per 36 with his undersized frame. Even though he relies a lot on his ability to use fakes and footwork to get buy his man, he still uses his body well to create space.

Draftexpress seems to agree too (although they emphasize his perimeter game much more):
Not one to be content just hanging around the perimeter, the biggest share of Morris' offense actually comes in the post, where his aggressive nature, terrific touch (particularly using the glass) and smooth footwork come in extremely handy at the college level.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mar ... z1FaNttznM
http://www.draftexpress.com


Brandon Knight - you are all over the place with him. Hard to tell what your thoughts are on him. You call him a decent shooter at first, then later talk about his shot glowingly. You say he dominates the ball and somehow figure that a ball dominant guard is best to play next to another ball dominant SG? He's definitely athletic enough for the league, the only question in that aspect is his average first step.


I think that two guys who can handle the ball in the backcourt somewhat make up for the lack of a true point guard. Also, I really like tall back-courts, which is why I suggest that he would work well with one of those guys. I'll be very clear on where I stand with him: he's got one true skill, his shooting, the rest is very sub-par. Can he improve? Yes, but I think that he's so raw that it's unlikely that he does.

Henson is lethargic? He may not always be taking control on offense because he knows his limitations, but he gives great effort consistently. Evans isnt a terrible comp, but Henson has a few inches and years on him, so he's a lot better of a prospect.


I won't disagree that he's a better prospect, but he does disappear at times, and his frame isn't ready for the NBA. In the last couple of weeks he has looked much better, but in the first half of the season he was very hit-or-miss.

Leonard doesnt remind me of Cunningham at all. Cunningham was much more of a true PF in college with a good post and face up game. Leonard on the otherhand, displays some guard skills and is a huge difference maker on the defensive end. He gets his points of athleticism and hustle, unlike Cunningham who benefited from a polished post game.


Coming out many people question Dante's ability to be a power forward and he was predicted to play small forward in the league (similar to Leonard). Cunningham, at this level, has proven to be an extremely good athlete - just like Leonard will. True, some aspects of their games are different - and that is where you run into trouble with comparisons - but I still see similar qualities in Kawhi.

Corey Fisher - No.


Fisher is one of the players I have seen a lot of, and I am impressed each time, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

How is Jeff Taylor a tweener? He is the most prototypical SF in this draft. Great size, strength, athleticism, and skills. Has no problem defending on the perimeter, can shoot it, and drives to the basket well. The question with him isnt about position. Its about consistency/production and finishing near the hoop.


His shooting has improved dramatically since last year (9% from three), which was the last time I saw him. He also averaged 10 boards per forty his freshman year and 8 boards his sophomore year. Guys who are 6-6 and can't shoot are labeled tweeners in my book, and when they can rebound it goes further to suggest that they are lacking a true position. I will catch at least one Vanderbilt game by the end of the year, but based on what I've seen in the past the statement about him being a tweener is spot-on.

You thinking Cade Davis is even a D-League prospect has got to be a complete joke. Are you his dad?


I am a big Sooners fan, so that plays into it a bit :wink:
You'll likely see me throw a Montana kid in the second round as well later in the year....

CJ and Travis Leslie are not brothers. haha


Right you are :D I just can't get them straight in my head, so I mine as well call them brothers. I know I have seen both this year too, but obviously I wasn't impressed enough to really care :lol:

From what you write, and even admit, its obvious you have only seen most of these guys a couple of times at most.


Perfectly right there, I'm not draftexpress. Generally the more detailed the post the more I have seen them play; usually I closely follow some guys at the top (Sullinger, Barnes, the Joneses, Fredette) and try to catch all of the other prospects I can at least once.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 12:45 am
by babyjax13
S.W.A.N wrote:Raptors taking a PF? not likely unless a very very clear level of talent difference over the available players....

barnes way more likely to be selected by raps if talent levels simular


I'm really unsure that Williams is a power forward, he looks more like a post-up small forward - and with Bargnani that could work well - although I would not be surprised to see Barnes here either, but I think he is a bit redundant with DeRozan.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 12:46 am
by babyjax13
Rockmaninoff wrote:If the Bucks pick Marcus Morris over Brandon Knight or Jordan Hamilton, I'll be finding a new team to root for.


Do you really think they would add another wing?

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:28 am
by Krapinsky
babyjax13 wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:If the Bucks pick Marcus Morris over Brandon Knight or Jordan Hamilton, I'll be finding a new team to root for.


Do you really think they would add another wing?


I also pegged them for a PF, but it's not like the 30 + year old tandem of Maggette and Salmons are leading them to a championship anytime soon. They've also got Gooden making big $$$ and Sanders developing at the PF already.

Man their GM really screwed that team up this year.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 7:56 am
by Rockmaninoff
The Bucks need somebody that can shoot. They need somebody with at least a little star potential. The last thing they need is another role playing power forward. Particularly one that sucked until he was a junior.

We also don't want soft Euros.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 3:58 pm
by 5DOM
babyjax13 wrote:
Harrison Barnes is crafty with the ball? I think one of his main problems is how vanilla he is on offense. He can handle it, but he doesnt show much more than a pump fake followed by a drive to the hoop. He relies on Marshall to create offense for him.


Maybe crafty with the ball isn't the right term, but he certainly gets inside well and is a strong finisher.


He really doesn't. He rarely drives to the rim.

And I don't understand how Derrick Williams reminds you of Joel Anthony and Hakim Warrick.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Fri Mar 4, 2011 5:57 pm
by Krapinsky
Yeah your write up on Derrick Williams is really odd.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Mon Mar 7, 2011 6:06 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
Derrick Williams is a SF that can play some PF,and why does Minny go with a SF/PF guy.Perry Jones is loaded with talent,but unless they plan on moving Johnson or Beasley(please to Atlanta)then I don't see the point in drafting him.He will have to platoon with Beasley which isn't good for neither.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Wed Mar 9, 2011 1:03 am
by Krapinsky
Geaux_Hawks wrote:Derrick Williams is a SF that can play some PF,and why does Minny go with a SF/PF guy.Perry Jones is loaded with talent,but unless they plan on moving Johnson or Beasley(please to Atlanta)then I don't see the point in drafting him.He will have to platoon with Beasley which isn't good for neither.


Agreed. I think based on need Wolves will take Kyrie, Valanciunas, or Barnes.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Wed Mar 9, 2011 7:02 am
by RTM
Robbie Hummel lost 2 years to injury, and can return to Purdue next year. He's not even thinking draft.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:04 am
by babyjax13
5DOM wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
Harrison Barnes is crafty with the ball? I think one of his main problems is how vanilla he is on offense. He can handle it, but he doesnt show much more than a pump fake followed by a drive to the hoop. He relies on Marshall to create offense for him.


Maybe crafty with the ball isn't the right term, but he certainly gets inside well and is a strong finisher.


He really doesn't. He rarely drives to the rim.

And I don't understand how Derrick Williams reminds you of Joel Anthony and Hakim Warrick.


Meant to say Joe Alexander, but for some reason had Anthony's name stuck in my head. Williams is super athletic and stuck between positions but has the frame to add weight and be a power forward. With his athleticism and primarily face-up game I think Warrick is an apt comparison (although Williams is miles ahead with his jumper).

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:11 am
by babyjax13
Updated.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:46 am
by ImOnFire15
I want Barnes!

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:13 pm
by gswhoops
I really like Kawhi Leonard for the Warriors if we don't move up. He reminds me of a Shawn Marion/Gerald Wallace type player.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:42 pm
by babyjax13
He is a really interesting prospect. On defense I think he can have a similar impact to Marion/Wallace, but his offensive abiliities are nowhere near where those guys are (although early-career Gerald was nothing to write home about). I think on Golden State his weaknesses will be somewhat masked, and it just makes sense that the Warriors would seriously consider him.

Re: 2011 Mock Draft (Team Needs)

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:16 pm
by Jazzfan12
Barnes similar to Maggette? What?