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I think this is one of the more realistic mocks arround:
1) Cleveland Cavs - Kyrie Irving (PG, 6'2", 180lb, Duke)
2) Washington Wizards - Derrick Williams (SF/PF, 6'8", 235lb, Arizona)
Note: Nick Young can play SG, and Derrick Williams at SF. The Wizards need one more SF. D.Williams has a very allrounded game, is the BEST scorer in the college game and has NBA body.
3) Sacramento Kings - Jared Sullinger (PF, 6'9", 260lb, Ohio State)
Note: Good compliment next to Demarcus Cousins. A potential 20/10 big in the league in the future. Low Bust rate and NBA ready
4) Minesota Timberwolves - Enes Kanter (C, 6'11". 255lb, Kentucky)
Note: Timberwolves need another big next to Love, preferably a defensive presence. Kanter is an allrounder type big, very solid defensively and has good fundamentals.
5) Tornto Raptors - Jonas Valanciunas (PF/C, 6'11", 230lb, Lithuania)
Note: Raptors love Erupoeans! Valanciunas is quite athletic for an European big, but i think that sort of athleticism can't be compared to most American players with elite athleticism. He also lacks strength and still very raw. He is a project.......latest news is that his European agent may want him to stay in EuroLeague for another year.
6) Detroit Pistons - Kemba Walker (PG, 6'0", 175lb, UConn)
Note: If Stuckey is asking for too much, the Pistons may well give up the negotiation and go for a pg in the draft or FA pool. Walker is a star in college game, explosive and can shoot accurately, he may not be a true point but he can also pass very well and has great court vision. Pistons may target an athletic big in the 2nd round instead (6th in 2nd round from Toronto), preferably Keith Benson.
7) Utah (From NJ- which draft position is falling) - Harrison Barnes (SG/SF, 6'8", 212lb, UNC)
8) Cleveland Cavaliers - Perry Jones
Note: Is long and athletic, but can't rebound and is a poor defender. Is a SF in a Pf body, stuck between 3 and 4. Potential is sky high, but he really isnt showing anything other than potential and athleticism in college. His time is running out
9) Milwaukee Bucks - Jan Vesely (SF/PF, 6'11", 240lb, Czech Republic)
Note: a rare Euro big with freakish athleticism. He and Bogut will form a promising frontcourt.
10) Charlotte Bobcats - Terence Jones (SF/PF, 6'8", 230lb, Kentucky)
Note: Direct replacement of Gerald Wallace? His draft position has been fallen since last month becoz his earlier this season has gone..... BUT T.Jones is very versatile, very athletic, has good size for his position, is a good handler of the ball and has the range up to 3pt line.
11) Golden State Warriors - Jimmier Fredette (PG, 6'2", 195lb, BYU)
Note: A backup PG who can shoot very well, and has 3pt range. Thats the type of guards that Warriors always like
12) Pheonix Suns - John Henson (PF, 6'10", 210lb, UNC)
Note: 2 years ago, he was measured 6'10", 200lb and has a 7'4" wingspan, at the age of 18. Its believed that he has a even longer wingspan after 2 years, probably arround 7'6", and he was named the ACC Defensive Player of the Year last week. Super athletic, a GREAT defender of the game who can defend both 3s and 4s, an amazing shotblocker with good rebounding ability (averaged 12+ reb in his last 10 games). Pheonix Suns need a good defensive big
13) Houston Rockets - Donatas Motiejunas (PF/C, 7", 230lb, Lithuania)
14) Utah Jazz - Nikola Mirotic(PF, 6'10", 225lb, Real Madrid)
15) Indiana - Alex Burks (SG, 6'6", 200lb, Colorado)
1) Cleveland Cavs - Kyrie Irving (PG, 6'2", 180lb, Duke)
2) Washington Wizards - Derrick Williams (SF/PF, 6'8", 235lb, Arizona)
Note: Nick Young can play SG, and Derrick Williams at SF. The Wizards need one more SF. D.Williams has a very allrounded game, is the BEST scorer in the college game and has NBA body.
3) Sacramento Kings - Jared Sullinger (PF, 6'9", 260lb, Ohio State)
Note: Good compliment next to Demarcus Cousins. A potential 20/10 big in the league in the future. Low Bust rate and NBA ready
4) Minesota Timberwolves - Enes Kanter (C, 6'11". 255lb, Kentucky)
Note: Timberwolves need another big next to Love, preferably a defensive presence. Kanter is an allrounder type big, very solid defensively and has good fundamentals.
5) Tornto Raptors - Jonas Valanciunas (PF/C, 6'11", 230lb, Lithuania)
Note: Raptors love Erupoeans! Valanciunas is quite athletic for an European big, but i think that sort of athleticism can't be compared to most American players with elite athleticism. He also lacks strength and still very raw. He is a project.......latest news is that his European agent may want him to stay in EuroLeague for another year.
6) Detroit Pistons - Kemba Walker (PG, 6'0", 175lb, UConn)
Note: If Stuckey is asking for too much, the Pistons may well give up the negotiation and go for a pg in the draft or FA pool. Walker is a star in college game, explosive and can shoot accurately, he may not be a true point but he can also pass very well and has great court vision. Pistons may target an athletic big in the 2nd round instead (6th in 2nd round from Toronto), preferably Keith Benson.
7) Utah (From NJ- which draft position is falling) - Harrison Barnes (SG/SF, 6'8", 212lb, UNC)
8) Cleveland Cavaliers - Perry Jones
Note: Is long and athletic, but can't rebound and is a poor defender. Is a SF in a Pf body, stuck between 3 and 4. Potential is sky high, but he really isnt showing anything other than potential and athleticism in college. His time is running out
9) Milwaukee Bucks - Jan Vesely (SF/PF, 6'11", 240lb, Czech Republic)
Note: a rare Euro big with freakish athleticism. He and Bogut will form a promising frontcourt.
10) Charlotte Bobcats - Terence Jones (SF/PF, 6'8", 230lb, Kentucky)
Note: Direct replacement of Gerald Wallace? His draft position has been fallen since last month becoz his earlier this season has gone..... BUT T.Jones is very versatile, very athletic, has good size for his position, is a good handler of the ball and has the range up to 3pt line.
11) Golden State Warriors - Jimmier Fredette (PG, 6'2", 195lb, BYU)
Note: A backup PG who can shoot very well, and has 3pt range. Thats the type of guards that Warriors always like
12) Pheonix Suns - John Henson (PF, 6'10", 210lb, UNC)
Note: 2 years ago, he was measured 6'10", 200lb and has a 7'4" wingspan, at the age of 18. Its believed that he has a even longer wingspan after 2 years, probably arround 7'6", and he was named the ACC Defensive Player of the Year last week. Super athletic, a GREAT defender of the game who can defend both 3s and 4s, an amazing shotblocker with good rebounding ability (averaged 12+ reb in his last 10 games). Pheonix Suns need a good defensive big
13) Houston Rockets - Donatas Motiejunas (PF/C, 7", 230lb, Lithuania)
14) Utah Jazz - Nikola Mirotic(PF, 6'10", 225lb, Real Madrid)
15) Indiana - Alex Burks (SG, 6'6", 200lb, Colorado)
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In this scenario I can't see Detroit passing on Perry Jones. It seems a little early for Walker plus they've got Gordon - who I realize insn't a PG, but still.
Its too early to take him but Burks would be a really nice pick for them because he could probably play in the back court with Gordon.
Its too early to take him but Burks would be a really nice pick for them because he could probably play in the back court with Gordon.
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The last thing GS needs is another combo guard with a shoot-first mentality.
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gswhoops wrote:The last thing GS needs is another combo guard with a shoot-first mentality.
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I HIGHLY doubt the Raptors will draft Jonas Valanciunas, especially if Harrison Barnes/Perry Jones is still available.
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Theres now way Barnes falls to 7
"That's why the last two years weren't guaranteed," Walsh said. "Either way, he knew it could have happened either way."
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Perry Jones's stock is falling. He has shown nothing but a 6'11", athletic tweener. Yes, he is a sf in a pf body.
P.Jones' rebounding ability is poor and he is a horrible defender as well. He has shown nothing, not even stats, but potential.
Scouts also admit that he is running out of time. I won't be surprised if he falls to the 7th -10th range at the end. He isjust too overhyped
P.Jones' rebounding ability is poor and he is a horrible defender as well. He has shown nothing, not even stats, but potential.
Scouts also admit that he is running out of time. I won't be surprised if he falls to the 7th -10th range at the end. He isjust too overhyped
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6'11'' and athletic are enough to be a top 6 pick in this draft.
How can a true freshman be running out of time?
How can a true freshman be running out of time?
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Cammo101 wrote:6'11'' and athletic are enough to be a top 6 pick in this draft.
How can a true freshman be running out of time?
His time as being considered to be a quality prospect is probably running out. Jones has done nothing in the last two years.
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Jazzfan12 wrote:Cammo101 wrote:6'11'' and athletic are enough to be a top 6 pick in this draft.
How can a true freshman be running out of time?
His time as being considered to be a quality prospect is probably running out. Jones has done nothing in the last two years.
Perry Jones - 13.9 ppg., 7.2 rpg., 54.9% fgp.
Harrison Barnes - 15.3 ppg., 5.9 rpg., 42.4% fgp.
Add to that the fact that Jones is playing with an elite level college scorer in LaceDarius Dunn. I'm not saying Jones has not been somewhat underwhelming comnpared to the hype, but all this talk like he is some bum is way over the top. This kid was one of the best freshman in the nation and is still a top prospect in this draft.
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Jones was also one of the worst defenders in college basketball and those rebounding numbers for his position are putrid. His last two teams have also done horribly in terms of actual success, Baylor missing the tournament this year is terrible. Jones also got worse as the season went on. And Barnes didn't have that great of a year either.
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Jones is clearly not ready for the NBA right now. But, his upside is still the highest in this draft. Someone will be taking him early.
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John Henson has been beasting for UNC lately. 12rebs and almost 4rebounds a game, with amazing athleticism, 7'6" wingspan n is a defensive specialist who was named ACC Defensive Player of the Year last week.
He was 6'10", 200lb 2 years ago during college recruit. It's believed that he's even longer at 6'11" these days with 210lb, which is still very skinny for a NBA PF. I think that's his only setback. But if he manages to gain 10-15lb in the next 3 months,to the 220-225 range, I won't be surprised if he'll be a top 10 pick.
Pistons for example may need a defensive, tall and athletic big next to Monroe. They desperately need a shotblocker and and someone more explosive in the frontcourt consider their bigs are all rather unatheltic like Monroe, Charlie V., Maxiell and a 38 year old Ben Wallace.
Both Henson n Perry Jones are lanky and athletic, but Henson has shown a lot more in college. Henson's shotblocking ability is the best in college basketball n is a very good revounder as well, he can also guard 3s and 4s comfortably. That's exactly what Perry Jones isn't, Jones is the worst defender in the post n is a poor rebounder despite his length. Perry jones is stuck between 3 and 4
He was 6'10", 200lb 2 years ago during college recruit. It's believed that he's even longer at 6'11" these days with 210lb, which is still very skinny for a NBA PF. I think that's his only setback. But if he manages to gain 10-15lb in the next 3 months,to the 220-225 range, I won't be surprised if he'll be a top 10 pick.
Pistons for example may need a defensive, tall and athletic big next to Monroe. They desperately need a shotblocker and and someone more explosive in the frontcourt consider their bigs are all rather unatheltic like Monroe, Charlie V., Maxiell and a 38 year old Ben Wallace.
Both Henson n Perry Jones are lanky and athletic, but Henson has shown a lot more in college. Henson's shotblocking ability is the best in college basketball n is a very good revounder as well, he can also guard 3s and 4s comfortably. That's exactly what Perry Jones isn't, Jones is the worst defender in the post n is a poor rebounder despite his length. Perry jones is stuck between 3 and 4
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Give me Perry Jones and Harrison Barnes over Sullinger for the Kings. And I don't think Sullinger will mesh that will with Cousins. And at the same time, I'm not that high on Sullinger in the first place. Good player but I don't see any "wow" in him.
I didn't even mention Terrence Jones, I put him in the mix of potential prospects over Sullinger for the Kings.
I didn't even mention Terrence Jones, I put him in the mix of potential prospects over Sullinger for the Kings.
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I rather have Harrison Barnes. Raps need star C or good C. NOT A PROJECT!
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Cammo101 wrote:Jones is clearly not ready for the NBA right now. But, his upside is still the highest in this draft. Someone will be taking him early.
Agreed. He's definitely a project but with his size, athleticism and skill set, he has the potential to be a truly great player down the road. Someone will take the gamble on him early.
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Update 3/30/11:
1) Cavs - Kyrie Irving (PG, 6'2", 180lb, Duke)
2) Timberwolves - Harrison Barnes (SF/SG, 6'8", 212lb, UNC)
3) Wizards - Derrick Williams (SF/PF, 6'8", 241lb, Arizona)
4) Raptors - Enes Kanter (C, 6'10", 255lb, Turkey)
5) Kings - Brandon Knight (PG/SG, 6'4", 183lb, Kentucky)
6) Jazz - Perry Jones (SF/PF, 6'11", 225lb, Baylor)
7) Pistons - Jonas Valacnciunas (C, 6'11", 230lb, Lit.)
8) Cavs - Terence Jones (SF/PF, 6'8", 244lb, Kentucky)
9) Bucks - Jan Vesely (SF/PF, 6'11', 240lb, Czech Republic)
10) Warriors - Kemba Walker (PG, 6'0", 172lb, UConn)
11) Bobcats - Donatas Motiejunas (PF/C, 7", 230lb, Lithuania)
12) Jazz - Jimmier Fredette (PG, 6'2", 195lb, BYU)
13) Suns - John Henson (PF, 6'10", 210lb, UNC)
14) Rockets - Kawhi Leonard (SF, 6'7", 225lb, San Diego State)
15) Pacers - Kenneth Faried (PF, 6'8", 225lb, Morehead State)
3 Questions:
1) Will the Timberwolves take Barnes at 2nd?
2) Is Knight a good complement next to Tyreke Evans? or Kemba Walker?
3) If the Cavs have drafted Irving, i dont see the remaining top 10 picks will be interested in Kemba Walker. Pistons maybe, but they already have Bynum n Gordon and they dont need another undersized SG in a PG body imo. So will Kemba fall?
1) Cavs - Kyrie Irving (PG, 6'2", 180lb, Duke)
2) Timberwolves - Harrison Barnes (SF/SG, 6'8", 212lb, UNC)
3) Wizards - Derrick Williams (SF/PF, 6'8", 241lb, Arizona)
4) Raptors - Enes Kanter (C, 6'10", 255lb, Turkey)
5) Kings - Brandon Knight (PG/SG, 6'4", 183lb, Kentucky)
6) Jazz - Perry Jones (SF/PF, 6'11", 225lb, Baylor)
7) Pistons - Jonas Valacnciunas (C, 6'11", 230lb, Lit.)
8) Cavs - Terence Jones (SF/PF, 6'8", 244lb, Kentucky)
9) Bucks - Jan Vesely (SF/PF, 6'11', 240lb, Czech Republic)
10) Warriors - Kemba Walker (PG, 6'0", 172lb, UConn)
11) Bobcats - Donatas Motiejunas (PF/C, 7", 230lb, Lithuania)
12) Jazz - Jimmier Fredette (PG, 6'2", 195lb, BYU)
13) Suns - John Henson (PF, 6'10", 210lb, UNC)
14) Rockets - Kawhi Leonard (SF, 6'7", 225lb, San Diego State)
15) Pacers - Kenneth Faried (PF, 6'8", 225lb, Morehead State)
3 Questions:
1) Will the Timberwolves take Barnes at 2nd?
2) Is Knight a good complement next to Tyreke Evans? or Kemba Walker?
3) If the Cavs have drafted Irving, i dont see the remaining top 10 picks will be interested in Kemba Walker. Pistons maybe, but they already have Bynum n Gordon and they dont need another undersized SG in a PG body imo. So will Kemba fall?
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1) Yes...from the sounds of it Wolves fans are in love with his potential.
2) I think he is next to Evans (because of his size), Walker, not so much
3) No, Motiejunas or Faried fall in this scenario.
Also, the Jazz wouldn't touch Jones with a 10 foot pole. I'd rather have Alec Burks or Jonas Valanciunas.
2) I think he is next to Evans (because of his size), Walker, not so much
3) No, Motiejunas or Faried fall in this scenario.
Also, the Jazz wouldn't touch Jones with a 10 foot pole. I'd rather have Alec Burks or Jonas Valanciunas.

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Is Vesely a good fit to the Pistons?
What do u guys think?
What do u guys think?
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Update 4/14/2011:
Cleveland Cavaliers – FR Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke
Minnesota Timberwolves – FR Harrison Barnes, G/F, North Carolina
Toronto Raptors – 1992 Jonas Valanciunas, C, Lietuvos Rytas
Washington Wizards – SO Derrick Williams, F, Arizona
Sacramento Kings –FR Enes Kanter, F/C, Kentucky
New Jersey Nets (to Utah) –JR Kemba Walker, PG, Connecticut
Detroit Pistons –1992 Bismack Biyombo, F/C, Fuenlabrada
Los Angeles Clippers (to Cleveland) – 1990 Jan Vesely, F, Partizan Belgrade
Charlotte Bobcats – FR Brandon Knight, G, Kentucky
Milwaukee Bucks – 1990 Donatas Motiejunas, PF, Benetton Treviso
Golden State Warriors – SO Alec Burks, SG, Colorado
Utah Jazz – 1991 Nikola Mirotic, F, Real Madrid
Phoenix Suns - JR Markieff Morris, F, Kansas
Houston Rockets –FR Terrence Jones, F, Kentucky
Indiana Pacers – SO Kawhi Leonard, F, San Diego State
Note:
1) Valanciunas' stock may fall, he still has two-years contract with his Euroleague team and in a recent articl,e Chad Ford claimed that his buyout is more complicated/messier than thought. He is still a project, with raw offense and a very skinny body.
2) The Jazz need a new PG, apparently Kemba Walker has been going amazingly in NCAA.
3) Bismack Biyombo's stock is rising, and the Pistons may want him since he's a post presence and a shotblocker that they need, and thats a perfect complement to Monore. Biyombo wont fall beyond the 7th in this weak draft.
Actually other than the two Euros, Biyombo is actually the better big in the weak draft. He's long, athletic, strong n plays defense.
4) There are some very interesting prospects in the 2nd round:
Nikola Vucevic
Demetri McCamey
Keith Benson
Jajuan Johnson (if he falls)
Trey Thompkins
Cleveland Cavaliers – FR Kyrie Irving, PG, Duke
Minnesota Timberwolves – FR Harrison Barnes, G/F, North Carolina
Toronto Raptors – 1992 Jonas Valanciunas, C, Lietuvos Rytas
Washington Wizards – SO Derrick Williams, F, Arizona
Sacramento Kings –FR Enes Kanter, F/C, Kentucky
New Jersey Nets (to Utah) –JR Kemba Walker, PG, Connecticut
Detroit Pistons –1992 Bismack Biyombo, F/C, Fuenlabrada
Los Angeles Clippers (to Cleveland) – 1990 Jan Vesely, F, Partizan Belgrade
Charlotte Bobcats – FR Brandon Knight, G, Kentucky
Milwaukee Bucks – 1990 Donatas Motiejunas, PF, Benetton Treviso
Golden State Warriors – SO Alec Burks, SG, Colorado
Utah Jazz – 1991 Nikola Mirotic, F, Real Madrid
Phoenix Suns - JR Markieff Morris, F, Kansas
Houston Rockets –FR Terrence Jones, F, Kentucky
Indiana Pacers – SO Kawhi Leonard, F, San Diego State
Note:
1) Valanciunas' stock may fall, he still has two-years contract with his Euroleague team and in a recent articl,e Chad Ford claimed that his buyout is more complicated/messier than thought. He is still a project, with raw offense and a very skinny body.
2) The Jazz need a new PG, apparently Kemba Walker has been going amazingly in NCAA.
3) Bismack Biyombo's stock is rising, and the Pistons may want him since he's a post presence and a shotblocker that they need, and thats a perfect complement to Monore. Biyombo wont fall beyond the 7th in this weak draft.
Actually other than the two Euros, Biyombo is actually the better big in the weak draft. He's long, athletic, strong n plays defense.
4) There are some very interesting prospects in the 2nd round:
Nikola Vucevic
Demetri McCamey
Keith Benson
Jajuan Johnson (if he falls)
Trey Thompkins