The Official Cammo 2013 Mock Draft Thread

[Cammo101]

Because it is never too early to look ahead...

6/29/12

1. Charlotte - Nerlens Noel (6'11'', C, High School)
2. Detroit - Shabazz Muhammad (6'6'', SF, High School)
3. Washington - Cody Zeller (6'11'', C, Indiana, Fresh.)
4. Toronto - Steven Adams (7'0'', C, High School)
5. Brooklyn - James McAdoo (6'8'', PF, North Carolina, Fresh.)
6. Sacramento - Alex Poythress (6'8'', SF, High School)
7. New Orleans - Rudy Gobert (6'11'', C, France)
8. Cleveland - Tony Mitchell (6'8'', SF, North Texas, Fresh.)
9. Phoenix - Adonis Thomas (6'7'', SF, Memphis, Fresh.)
10. Milwaukee - Dario Saric (6'9'', SF, Croatia)
11. Minnesota - Isaiah Austin (7'0'', PF, High School)
12. Golden State - BJ Young (6'4'', SG, Arkansas, Fresh.)
13. Portland - LeBryan Nash (6'7'', SF, Oklahoma State, Fresh.)
14. Houston - Archie Goodwin (6'5'', SG, High School)
15. Utah - Myck Kabongo (6'1'', PG, Texas, Fresh.)
16. Atlanta - Alex Len (7'1'', C, Maryland, Fresh.)
17. Philadelphia - Patric Young (6'9'', PF, Florida, Soph.)
18. New York - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (6'6'', SG, Georgia, Fresh.)
19. Orlando - Ryan Harrow (5'11'', PG, Kentucky, Fresh.)
20. Denver - CJ Leslie (6'9'', SF, North Carolina State, Soph.)
21. Memphis - Alec Brown (7'1'', C, Wisconsin-Green Bay, Soph.)
22. Boston - Andre Roberson (6'7'', SF, Colorado, Soph.)
23. Indiana - CJ McCollum (6'3'', SG, Lehigh, Jr.)
24. LA Clippers - PJ Hairston (6'6'', SG, North Carolina, Fresh.)
25. Dallas - Alex Abrines (6'5'', SG, Spain)
26. LA Lakers - Isaiah Canaan (6'0'', PG, Murray State, Jr.)
27. San Antonio - Tim Hardaway Jr. (6'5'', SG, Michigan, Soph.)
28. Chicago - CJ Aiken (6'9'', PF, St. Joseph's, Soph.)
29. Oklahoma City - Aaron Craft (6'2'', PG, Ohio State, Soph.)
30. Miami - Jeff Withey (7'0'', C, Kansas, Jr.)

31. Charlotte - Mason Plumlee (6'11'', PF, Duke, Jr.)
32. Detroit - Otto Porter (6'8'', SF, Georgetown, Fresh.)
33. Washington - Wayne Blackshear (6'5'', SF, Louisville, Fresh.)
34. Toronto - Trey Burke (5'11'', PG, Michigan, Fresh.)
35. Brooklyn - Mike Moser (6'8'', PF, UNLV, Soph.)
36. Sacramento - Augusto Cesar Lima (6'10'', PF, Brazil)
37. New Orleans - CJ Fair (6'8'', SF, Syracuse, Soph.)
38. Cleveland - Trevor Mbakwe (6'8'', PF, Minnesota, Sr.)
39. Phoenix - Michael Carter-Williams (6'5'', SG, Syracuse, Fresh.)
40. Milwaukee - Reggie Bullock (6'6'', SG, North Carolina, Soph.)
41. Minnesota - CJ Wilcox (6'5'', SG, Washington, Soph.)
42. Golden State - DeAndre Daniels (6'8'', SF, UConn, Fresh.)
43. Portland - Gorgui Dieng (6'10'', C, Louisville, Soph.)
44. Houston - Lorenzo Brown (6'4'', PG, North Carolina State, Soph.)
45. Utah - Wang Zhelin (7'0'', C, China)
46. Atlanta - Ian Miller (6'3'', PG, Florida State, Soph.)
47. Philadelphia - Branden Dawson (6'6'', SG, Michigan State, Fresh.)
48. New York - Rakeem Christmas (6'9'', PF, Syracuse, Fresh.)
49. Orlando - Christian Watford (6'8'', SF, Indiana, Jr.)
50. Denver - Lucas Nogueira (7'0'', C, Brazil)
51. Memphis - Allen Crabbe (6'6'', SG, California, Soph.)
52. Boston - Deshaun Thomas (6'7'', SF, Ohio State, Soph.)
53. Indiana - Peyton Siva (5'11'', PG, Louisville, Jr.)
54. LA Clippers - Joshua Smith (6'10'', C, UCLA, Soph.)
55. Dallas - Dexter Strickland (6'3'', PG, North Carolina, Jr.)
56. LA Lakers - Rodney Williams (6'7'', SF, Minnesota, Jr.)
57. San Antonio - Victor Oladipo (6'5'', SG, Indiana, Soph.)
58. Chicago - Michael Snaer (6'4'', SG, Florida State, Jr.)
59. Oklahoma City - Alex Oriakhi (6'9'', PF, Missouri, Jr.)
60. Miami - Elijah Johnson (6'3'', SG, Kansas, Jr.)

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[No-Man]

Don't like the standings but the players are Ok, also Adams will stay at least for a 2nd year at Pitt and Kabongo should stay too, pretty raw.

Thomas and McAdoo are too high.

[ManualRam]

i'd move down: noel, zeller, mcadoo, austin (i'd actually move him out), nash
i'd move up: adams, poythress, mitchell, abrines, porter (way up), blackshear, burke (way up), mbakwe
i'd move in: jarnell stokes


first round sleepers: ben mclemore, danuel house, glenn robinson III, rodney purvis
i also think ricky ledo will leave after 1 yr and get drafted in the late teens to 20s.
basically i think some guys will try to take advantage of the perceived lack of depth in the draft.

[TDJacksonville]

man i guess i could live with that draft but i dont see why the Magic wouldnt go with C Joshua Smith from UCLA in round 1 and a guy like Oriahaki(SP) in round 2(i know they drafted the same Positions this year but Oriahaki is a different type of PF. Nicholson is more of a Face up guy and Oriahaki is more of a post up guy. as far as the joshua Smith choice if Dwight does leave the magic will be needing a center and smith is pretty good and can do what dwight can do which is Post up and shoot and play good defense. Smiths Biggest Knocks are conditioning and he needs to slim down from that 300 pounds down to maybe 270.

[BossHoggin]

I'd like to say I'd be happy with picks 8 and 26, but we'll see how Waiters works.

[Cammo101]

7/3/12 2014 Big Board

1. Andrew Wiggins (6'7'', SF, High School)
2. Jabari Parker (6'8'', SF, High School)
3. Julius Randle (6'9'', PF, High School)
4. Kasey Hill (6'0'', PG, High School)
5. Aaron Gordon (6'8'', SF, High School)
6. Mario Hezonja (6'6'', SG, Croatia)
7. Chris Walker (6'9'', PF, High School)
8. Andrew Harrison (6'5'', SG, High School)
9. Rodney Hood (6'7'', SF, Duke, Soph.)
10. Kaleb Tarczewski (7'0'', C, Arizona, Fresh.)
11. Cameron Ridley (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
12. Kyle Anderson (6'7'', SF, UCLA, Fresh.)
13. Marshall Plumlee (7'1'', C, Duke, Soph.)
14. Ricardo Ledo (6'6'', SG, Providence, Fresh.)
15. Dorian Finney-Smith (6'7'', SF, Virginia Tech, Soph.)
16. Tony Parker (6'9'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
17. Kuran Iverson (6'8'', SF, High School)
18. Mitch McGary (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Fresh.)
19. Glenn Robinson (6'6'', SF, Michigan, Fresh.)
20. Ryan Boatright (6'0'', PG, Connecticut, Soph.)
21. Gary Harris (6'4'', SG, Michigan State, Fresh.)
22. Devonta Pollard (6'7'', SF, Alabama, Fresh.)
23. Amir Williams (6'10'', C, Ohio State, Soph.)
24. Joe Jackson (6'0'', PG, Memphis, Jr.)
25. Philip Neumann (6'11'', C, Germany)
26. Perry Ellis (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Fresh.)
27. James Young (6'6'', SG, High School)
28. Josiah Turner (6'3'', PG, SMU, Soph.)
29. Doug McDermott (6'7'', SF, Creighton, Jr.)
30. Brandon Ashley (6'8'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
31. Anthony Bennett (6'8'', PF, UNLV, Fresh.)
32. Phil Pressey (5'11'', PG, Missouri, Jr.)
33. Grant Jerrett (6'10'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
34. Dwight Powell (6'10'', PF, Stanford, Jr.)
35. Ray McCallum (6'1'', PG, Detroit, Jr.)
36. Kyle Wiltjer (6'9'', PF, Kentucky, Soph.)
37. Tarik Black (6'8'', PF, Memphis, Jr.)
38. Chane Benahan (6'7'', SF, Louisville, Soph.)
39. Khem Birch (6'9'', PF, UNLV, Soph.)
40. Johnny O'Bryant (6'10'', C, LSU, Soph.)

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[ManualRam]

7/3/12 2014 Big Board

1. Andrew Wiggins (6'7'', SF, High School)
2. Jabari Parker (6'8'', SF, High School)
3. Julius Randle (6'9'', PF, High School)
4. Kasey Hill (6'0'', PG, High School)
5. Aaron Gordon (6'8'', SF, High School)
6. Mario Hezonja (6'6'', SG, Croatia)
7. Chris Walker (6'9'', PF, High School)
8. Andrew Harrison (6'5'', SG, High School)
9. Rodney Hood (6'7'', SF, Duke, Soph.)
10. Kaleb Tarczewski (7'0'', C, Arizona, Fresh.)
11. Cameron Ridley (6'10'', C, Texas, Fresh.)
12. Kyle Anderson (6'7'', SF, UCLA, Fresh.)
13. Marshall Plumlee (7'1'', C, Duke, Soph.)
14. Ricardo Ledo (6'6'', SG, Providence, Fresh.)
15. Dorian Finney-Smith (6'7'', SF, Virginia Tech, Soph.)
16. Tony Parker (6'9'', PF, UCLA, Fresh.)
17. Kuran Iverson (6'8'', SF, High School)
18. Mitch McGary (6'10'', PF, Michigan, Fresh.)
19. Glenn Robinson (6'6'', SF, Michigan, Fresh.)
20. Ryan Boatright (6'0'', PG, Connecticut, Soph.)
21. Gary Harris (6'4'', SG, Michigan State, Fresh.)
22. Devonta Pollard (6'7'', SF, Alabama, Fresh.)
23. Amir Williams (6'10'', C, Ohio State, Soph.)
24. Joe Jackson (6'0'', PG, Memphis, Jr.)
25. Philip Neumann (6'11'', C, Germany)
26. Perry Ellis (6'8'', PF, Kansas, Fresh.)
27. James Young (6'6'', SG, High School)
28. Josiah Turner (6'3'', PG, SMU, Soph.)
29. Doug McDermott (6'7'', SF, Creighton, Jr.)
30. Brandon Ashley (6'8'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
31. Anthony Bennett (6'8'', PF, UNLV, Fresh.)
32. Phil Pressey (5'11'', PG, Missouri, Jr.)
33. Grant Jerrett (6'10'', PF, Arizona, Fresh.)
34. Dwight Powell (6'10'', PF, Stanford, Jr.)
35. Ray McCallum (6'1'', PG, Detroit, Jr.)
36. Kyle Wiltjer (6'9'', PF, Kentucky, Soph.)
37. Tarik Black (6'8'', PF, Memphis, Jr.)
38. Chane Benahan (6'7'', SF, Louisville, Soph.)
39. Khem Birch (6'9'', PF, UNLV, Soph.)
40. Johnny O'Bryant (6'10'', C, LSU, Soph.)

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-james young is way too low imo. i think he can be better than shabazz.
-i think kasey hill is gonna be special but i'd still take andrew harrison over him.
-those 2012 bigs are overrated. tarz, ridley, parker, mcgary. all overrated as NBA prospects.
-look out for bobby portis. kid reminds me of a young J.O. i think he's another 1 and done candidate from his class.

[Marino]

Charlotte would go Muhammad over Noels.

[Cammo101]

Charlotte would go Muhammad over Noels.

Maybe. Too early to tell. Though their more pressing need is for a big man, not a wing. They have Kemba, Gordon, and Henderson all on the wing.

I'm sure they will taker the best player available, which to me is Noel.

[ManualRam]

Charlotte would go Muhammad over Noels.

Maybe. Too early to tell. Though their more pressing need is for a big man, not a wing. They have Kemba, Gordon, and Henderson all on the wing.

I'm sure they will taker the best player available, which to me is Noel.

their most pressing need is scoring. henderson isnt enough of a player to NOT draft shabazz. neither is reggie williams or maggette.
what makes noel the bpa?

[Cammo101]

Charlotte would go Muhammad over Noels.

Maybe. Too early to tell. Though their more pressing need is for a big man, not a wing. They have Kemba, Gordon, and Henderson all on the wing.

I'm sure they will taker the best player available, which to me is Noel.

their most pressing need is scoring. henderson isnt enough of a player to NOT draft shabazz. neither is reggie williams or maggette.
what makes noel the bpa?

Ben Gordon, Kemba Walker,Corey Maggette and Gerald Henderson is a lot of perimeter scoring. I think their bigger need is to get guys like Byron Mullins out of their starting frontcourt.

If they have Shabazz higher rated than Noel, then they should take him. I don't. I think Noel can be a top of the line NBA center who can be a big time defensive presence. Shabazz to me is more likely to be a quality role player than a star. Kind of like a larger OJ Mayo.

[ManualRam]

Maybe. Too early to tell. Though their more pressing need is for a big man, not a wing. They have Kemba, Gordon, and Henderson all on the wing.

I'm sure they will taker the best player available, which to me is Noel.

their most pressing need is scoring. henderson isnt enough of a player to NOT draft shabazz. neither is reggie williams or maggette.
what makes noel the bpa?

Ben Gordon, Kemba Walker,Corey Maggette and Gerald Henderson is a lot of perimeter scoring. I think their bigger need is to get guys like Byron Mullins out of their starting frontcourt.

If they have Shabazz higher rated than Noel, then they should take him. I don't. I think Noel can be a top of the line NBA center who can be a big time defensive presence. Shabazz to me is more likely to be a quality role player than a star. Kind of like a larger OJ Mayo.

doesnt look like good, EFFICIENT scoring. neither henderson, williams nor maggette should even be brought up in the decision making process when determining who their pick should be. that's like wiz not being sure whether they should pick mkg or barnes since they just picked up ariza.
they are a putrid offensive team and BG only helps incrementally.
if they draft noel then what would be their frontcourt going forward? mkg, biyombo and noel? where is the scoring coming from? that team would just be begging for spacing problems.

[Cammo101]

That would be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball.

[ManualRam]

That would be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball.

and the worst offensive one.
a bad offensive frontcourt destroys offensive continuity because the paint is automatically packed.

[Cammo101]

That would be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball.

and the worst offensive one.
a bad offensive frontcourt destroys offensive continuity because the paint is automatically packed.

Noel has offensive upside if they are patient. And the 4 guards we talked about earlier can put the ball in the hoop. Also, it is much more difficult to get a talented 7 footer who can protect the rim than to get a wing player like Shabazz.

[ManualRam]

That would be the best defensive frontcourt in basketball.

and the worst offensive one.
a bad offensive frontcourt destroys offensive continuity because the paint is automatically packed.

Noel has offensive upside if they are patient. And the 4 guards we talked about earlier can put the ball in the hoop. Also, it is much more difficult to get a talented 7 footer who can protect the rim than to get a wing player like Shabazz.

upside? maybe. i havent seen any glimpses of it. he seems to have really poor instincts offensively to go along with his low skill level.

they already have a paint protector with great upside. they need more balance.
even with gordon, they're gonna be awful on offense.
contested, tough jumpshots galore.

[TayP]

Not taking Shabazz because we have Henderson and Gordon is stupid and won't happen Henderson will be a free agent too and Gordon would have a 13.2 million expiring. I like Noel though but I want Shabazz and I don't agree with Detroit being the 2nd worst team.

[TayP]

My 2013 predicted standings draft order

1. Charlotte
2. Houston
3. Orlando
4. Phoenix
5. New Orleans
6. Sacramento
7. Philadelphia
8. Atlanta
9. Cleveland
10. Houston via Toronto
11. Detroit
12. Utah
13. Portland
14. Mavericks
15. Washington
16. Milwaukee
17. Golden State
18. Minnesota
19. What team did I forget?
20. New York
21. Denver
22. Memphis
23. Boston
24. Brooklyn
25. Clippers
26. Indiana
27. Cleveland from Lakers via Heat
28. San Antonio
29. Oklahoma City
30. Phoenix from Lakers via Cleveland via Miami

[Cammo101]

Not taking Shabazz because we have Henderson and Gordon is stupid and won't happen Henderson will be a free agent too and Gordon would have a 13.2 million expiring. I like Noel though but I want Shabazz and I don't agree with Detroit being the 2nd worst team.

I have Charlotte taking Noel because he is the best player in this draft IMO. Need was just a bonus.

I took the order directly from the betting odds of each team winning a title. I agree that Detroit won't be that bad. Put 5 bucks on them to win it all and you can make a lot of money.

[TayP]

Not taking Shabazz because we have Henderson and Gordon is stupid and won't happen Henderson will be a free agent too and Gordon would have a 13.2 million expiring. I like Noel though but I want Shabazz and I don't agree with Detroit being the 2nd worst team.

I have Charlotte taking Noel because he is the best player in this draft IMO. Need was just a bonus.

I took the order directly from the betting odds of each team winning a title. I agree that Detroit won't be that bad. Put 5 bucks on them to win it all and you can make a lot of money.

Lmao! I seen the odd to winning a championship order on a few other sites and i don't like it. I am torn between Noel and Shabazz. If we get Portland and or Detroit pick for this year we are definitely taking Shabazz because this draft has so many 7 foot centers and few sgs. If we don't get either extra picks it would be a hard choice between Shabazz and Noel.