The Village Idiot's mock draft

Village Idiot · Post #1 » by **Village Idiot** » Wed May 31, 2017 8:10 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/364935/

1
Markelle Fultz, PG, Washington
Boston Celtics Swap with Brooklyn

2
Lonzo Ball, PG, UCLA
Los Angeles Lakers

3
Josh Jackson, SF, Kansas
Philadelphia Sixers Swap with Sacramento

4
Jonathan Isaac, SF, Florida State
Phoenix Suns

5
De'Aaron Fox, PG, Kentucky
Sacramento Kings Swap with Philadelphia

6
Dennis Smith, PG, NC State
Orlando Magic

7
Bam Adebayo, C, Kentucky
Minnesota Timberwolves

8
Frank Ntilikina, PG, Strasbourg IG (France)
New York Knicks

9
Lauri Markkanen, SF, Arizona
Dallas Mavericks

10
Jayson Tatum, SF, Duke
Sacramento Kings from New Orleans

11
Malik Monk, SG, Kentucky
Charlotte Hornets

12
Donovan Mitchell, SG, Louisville
Detroit Pistons

13
Ogugua Anunoby, SF, Indiana
Denver Nuggets

14
Luke Kennard, SG, Duke
Miami Heat

15
Zach Collins, C, Gonzaga
Portland Trail Blazers

16
Frank Jackson, SG, Duke
Chicago Bulls

17
T.J. Leaf, PF, UCLA
Milwaukee Bucks

18
Jarrett Allen, C, Texas
Indiana Pacers

19
Harry Giles, PF, Duke
Atlanta Hawks

20
Justin Jackson, F, North Carolina
Portland Trail Blazers from Memphis via Cleveland and Denver

21
D.J. Wilson, F, Michigan
Oklahoma City Thunder

22
Jordan Bell, PF, Oregon
Brooklyn Nets from Washington

23
Anzejs Pasecniks, C, BC VEF Riga (Latvia)
Toronto Raptors

24
Isaiah Hartenstein, PF, Zalgiris (Lithuania)
Utah Jazz

25
Terrance Ferguson, SG, Adelaide (Australia)
Orlando Magic from L.A. Clippers via Toronto and Milwaukee

26
Jonah Bolden, SF, FMP Beograd (Serbia)
Portland Trail Blazers from Cleveland

27
Caleb Swanigan, C, Purdue
Brooklyn Nets Swap with Boston

28
Justin Patton, C, Creighton
Los Angeles Lakers from Houston

29
Jonathan Jeanne, C, Nancy Basket (France)
San Antonio Spurs

30
Kyle Kuzma, F, Utah
Utah Jazz from Golden State

Fotis St · Post #2 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:52 pm

Good mock overall ...
As Bucks fan I believe TJ Leaf is unlikely to happen cause the PF position is heavily occupied by Giannis and Teletovic. Thon could play some 4 too. So Bucks will probably pick anything but PF. Maybe you thought Jabari was our PF, no Jabari played the SF. So ... according to your Mock ... Bucks pick Justin Jackson at #17 (your 20)

Village Idiot · Post #3 » by **Village Idiot** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 5:08 pm

Fotis St wrote:Good mock overall ...
As Bucks fan I believe TJ Leaf is unlikely to happen cause the PF position is heavily occupied by Giannis and Teletovic. Thon could play some 4 too. So Bucks will probably pick anything but PF. Maybe you thought Jabari was our PF, no Jabari played the SF. So ... according to your Mock ... Bucks pick Justin Jackson at #17 (your 20)

Thanks for the feedback and recommendation.

TDJacksonville · Post #4 » by **TDJacksonville** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 11:02 pm

Magic imo should go with Tatum at 6. At 25 I can get behind a Ferguson pick but I like taking a guy like Jeanne or Patton. Jeanne would be a good euro-stash pick while Patton could make vucevic a tradeable asset. Patton has good mobility and some solid shooting skills so he should be a solid future starting center

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Spens1 · Post #5 » by **Spens1** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 2:03 am

Bam at 7 is very very high. Also not a huge fan of him anyway, he's still very raw and he doesn't offer a lot offensively.

Interesting choice with Isaac at 4. I don't think Tatum slips to 10 though, i think the Knicks would take him or Dallas would first.

Same with Monk, i think a team in the top 10 takes him.

Like our pick, if Patton slipped to 28 i'd be really happy

Village Idiot · Post #6 » by **Village Idiot** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 3:57 pm

Spens1 wrote:Bam at 7 is very very high. Also not a huge fan of him anyway, he's still very raw and he doesn't offer a lot offensively.

Interesting choice with Isaac at 4. I don't think Tatum slips to 10 though, i think the Knicks would take him or Dallas would first.

Same with Monk, i think a team in the top 10 takes him.

Like our pick, if Patton slipped to 28 i'd be really happy

What would be the fun of making a mock draft that had only minor variation from the norm? Every year some guys get drafted significantly higher than mocks expect while other sink.

Bam is a guy I think could be another Dwight Howard. Very similar body, athleticism and skill set at the same age. In my opinion he has a heck of a lot more upside than many ranked ahead of him in conventional mock drafts. It only takes one team, in this case Minnesota, to have him high up on their big board, to change the entire draft order. We've seen this with Bennett and Waiters in recent years.

I like Tatum a lot and for Portland I have him 2nd on my draft board after Fultz. He could slip though as could anyone besides Fultz. This draft has been described, I don't remember by whom, as having one tier with Fultz, a 2nd tier going down to 11 and a 3rd tier going down to about 35. This draft is deep and a lot of convention defying picks could happen. I also expect to see a lot of trades .

The_Hater · Post #7 » by **The_Hater** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 6:15 pm

Fotis St wrote:Good mock overall ...
As Bucks fan I believe TJ Leaf is unlikely to happen cause the PF position is heavily occupied by Giannis and Teletovic. Thon could play some 4 too. So Bucks will probably pick anything but PF. Maybe you thought Jabari was our PF, no Jabari played the SF. So ... according to your Mock ... Bucks pick Justin Jackson at #17 (your 20)

Assuming that's the Bucks would draft based on need, which is unlikely, Teletovic would never be a good reason to pass in a PF you like and Giannis is a player not defined by any specific position.

Fotis St · Post #8 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 7:27 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Good mock overall ...
As Bucks fan I believe TJ Leaf is unlikely to happen cause the PF position is heavily occupied by Giannis and Teletovic. Thon could play some 4 too. So Bucks will probably pick anything but PF. Maybe you thought Jabari was our PF, no Jabari played the SF. So ... according to your Mock ... Bucks pick Justin Jackson at #17 (your 20)

Assuming that's the Bucks would draft based on need, which is unlikely, Teletovic would never be a good reason to pass in a PF you like and Giannis is a player not defined by any specific position.

At #17 in this draft class there is no-one you can't pass and TJ Leaf is definitely one of them. From #13 - 45 this draft class is about equal players. Players with upside attached with flaws. So you draft a player that fits your team and has playing time to develop and succeed.

PF position is loaded ... and if Bucks consider drafting a PF, they will draft someone like Ike,Bell,Adebajo, a good rebounder with some rim protection. Bucks have problems at Rebounding whole year, Leaf probably makes us even worse at rebounding. So a bulky PF/C that can play some small ball 5 is Bucks need.

Even with your strategy "best player available" Justin Jackson is a better player than TJ Leaf

Edit: this is amazing... in my mock draft I have your team the Raptors pick TJ Leaf. You need one more stretch 4 to backup Ibaka ... I think Leaf is your guy at #23

skywalker33 · Post #9 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 7:40 pm

Don't see BAm getting into the lottery, can't see Collins dropping to 15 either.

Spens1 · Post #10 » by **Spens1** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 11:03 pm

Village Idiot wrote:
Spens1 wrote:Bam at 7 is very very high. Also not a huge fan of him anyway, he's still very raw and he doesn't offer a lot offensively.

Interesting choice with Isaac at 4. I don't think Tatum slips to 10 though, i think the Knicks would take him or Dallas would first.

Same with Monk, i think a team in the top 10 takes him.

Like our pick, if Patton slipped to 28 i'd be really happy
What would be the fun of making a mock draft that had only minor variation from the norm? Every year some guys get drafted significantly higher than mocks expect while other sink.

Bam is a guy I think could be another Dwight Howard. Very similar body, athleticism and skill set at the same age. In my opinion he has a heck of a lot more upside than many ranked ahead of him in conventional mock drafts. It only takes one team, in this case Minnesota, to have him high up on their big board, to change the entire draft order. We've seen this with Bennett and Waiters in recent years.

I like Tatum a lot and for Portland I have him 2nd on my draft board after Fultz. He could slip though as could anyone besides Fultz. This draft has been described, I don't remember by whom, as having one tier with Fultz, a 2nd tier going down to 11 and a 3rd tier going down to about 35. This draft is deep and a lot of convention defying picks could happen. I also expect to see a lot of trades .

my argument isn't so much how high he is, its more the fit next to KAT.