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GSG_pies · Post #21 » by **GSG_pies** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:54 am

Is Jock Landale any chance to be drafted in the second? Obviously a senior but could contribute at least offensively in year 1?

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Post #22 » by **GimmeDat** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:39 pm

GSG_pies wrote:Is Jock Landale any chance to be drafted in the second? Obviously a senior but could contribute at least offensively in year 1?

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Maybe, just based on sheer college production, but he's a really slow footed, old school center, so I'm going to say no. I'd love to see him get drafted though, as an Aussie. He's having an amazing college season.

Post #23 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:30 am

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Post #24 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:37 am

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Post #25 » by **GimmeDat** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:25 am

Decided to spoiler my non-most recent boards to make the page less painful to read. Made a big shake up with this one anyway. Had a change of heart with a lot of the mid-1st guys, and added Hunter, decided to continue dropping disappointments like Diallo/Duval, completely reworked a lot of the 2nd round, though I'm still not happy with it. There's still a lot of guys I want to see more of in the 2nd round range so that I have a better feel on it.

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JMac1 · Post #26 » by **JMac1** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 5:22 am

Do you have any concerns with Ayton’s motor and Lukas avg athleticism?

Post #27 » by **GimmeDat** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 12:20 pm

JMac1 wrote:Do you have any concerns with Ayton’s motor and Lukas avg athleticism?

I wouldn't dismiss them, they do make me hesitate on both counts, but I don't think it's enough to really don't either guys as prospects.

I think Ayton's defensive awareness/instincts is actually a bigger issue than his motor, I think he's like Drummond in the sense that despite not consistently having a high motor, he still pretty consistently impacts the game in those 'effort' areas out of sheer physical dominance. I have next to no concerns about him being a high level offensive player and rebounder. I would still like to see a little more arc on his shot, and maybe that happens over time as he extends his range a bit more, but he does have a soft touch. The big issue is him rotating and protecting the rim consistently. I think he's absolutely a 5 but being at the position, his defensive consistency will go a long way to determining his overall effectiveness. tl;dr - yes, I don't like it, but I think it's the difference between him being good/great to dominant.

As for Doncic, I think you need to find a middle ground, the 'haters' overblow his lack of athleticism when in fact he has a lot of positive attributes like great speed for size, especially with the ball in his hand, good body control, etc. It's like people forget he's 6'8 sometimes and hold him to guard standards athletically because of his role. On the other hand, those that completely dismiss any athletic limitations are kidding themselves imo because he will struggle to do things like turn the corner. He's incredibly skilled which will obviously go a long way to working around any limitations, but it will be interesting to see if he's able to get in to the paint and get to the line or finish at the same propensity that he's doing in in Europe, and if he can't, being a high level shooter will be even more important. People have been bringing up his poor 3 point shooting so far this year, which is a tiny pause for hesitation, but ultimately he has great mechanics and over a large sample he's proven to be a strong shooter so I'm not worried. I think the main thing will be just how willing the team he goes to is willing to hand him the keys - if they play him off the ball or even as a secondary handler, I would not be surprised to see him looking fairly average. The stuff that makes him special only occurs if you run things through him. For a team like Phoenix, it's worth considering that Booker does handle the ball a fair bit, and Payton has little off-ball ability.

I probably wouldn't recommend either as the best fit on the Suns, but I do believe they're the best talents. If the pick ended up 3rd/4th I would take solace in knowing that you're likely drafting an awesome fit in Bamba or JJJ (they're who I'd take), but top 2 and I think either are a can't miss talent.

JMac1 · Post #28 » by **JMac1** » Mon Mar 5, 2018 5:25 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
JMac1 wrote:Do you have any concerns with Ayton’s motor and Lukas avg athleticism?

I wouldn't dismiss them, they do make me hesitate on both counts, but I don't think it's enough to really don't either guys as prospects.

I think Ayton's defensive awareness/instincts is actually a bigger issue than his motor, I think he's like Drummond in the sense that despite not consistently having a high motor, he still pretty consistently impacts the game in those 'effort' areas out of sheer physical dominance. I have next to no concerns about him being a high level offensive player and rebounder. I would still like to see a little more arc on his shot, and maybe that happens over time as he extends his range a bit more, but he does have a soft touch. The big issue is him rotating and protecting the rim consistently. I think he's absolutely a 5 but being at the position, his defensive consistency will go a long way to determining his overall effectiveness. tl;dr - yes, I don't like it, but I think it's the difference between him being good/great to dominant.

As for Doncic, I think you need to find a middle ground, the 'haters' overblow his lack of athleticism when in fact he has a lot of positive attributes like great speed for size, especially with the ball in his hand, good body control, etc. It's like people forget he's 6'8 sometimes and hold him to guard standards athletically because of his role. On the other hand, those that completely dismiss any athletic limitations are kidding themselves imo because he will struggle to do things like turn the corner. He's incredibly skilled which will obviously go a long way to working around any limitations, but it will be interesting to see if he's able to get in to the paint and get to the line or finish at the same propensity that he's doing in in Europe, and if he can't, being a high level shooter will be even more important. People have been bringing up his poor 3 point shooting so far this year, which is a tiny pause for hesitation, but ultimately he has great mechanics and over a large sample he's proven to be a strong shooter so I'm not worried. I think the main thing will be just how willing the team he goes to is willing to hand him the keys - if they play him off the ball or even as a secondary handler, I would not be surprised to see him looking fairly average. The stuff that makes him special only occurs if you run things through him. For a team like Phoenix, it's worth considering that Booker does handle the ball a fair bit, and Payton has little off-ball ability.

I probably wouldn't recommend either as the best fit on the Suns, but I do believe they're the best talents. If the pick ended up 3rd/4th I would take solace in knowing that you're likely drafting an awesome fit in Bamba or JJJ (they're who I'd take), but top 2 and I think either are a can't miss talent.

So for us you’d go Ayton/Doncic then JJJ.

Post #29 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Mar 6, 2018 6:48 am

JMac1 wrote:[

So for us you’d go Ayton/Doncic then JJJ.

Probably, yeah.

Post #30 » by **GimmeDat** » Wed Mar 7, 2018 1:17 am

1. Ayton
2. Doncic
3. JJJ
4. Porter
5. Bamba
6. Bagley
7. Young
8. Carter
9. Mik. Bridges
10. Mil. Bridges
11. Knox
12. J.Porter
13. Hunter
14. Walker Jr.
15. Gafford
16. Sexton
17. Williams
18. Z.Smith
19. Robinson
20. Brown
21. Musa
22. Frazier
23. Okobo
24. Melton
25. SGA
26. Simons
27. Hutchison
28. Bates-Diop
29. Bonga
30. Shamet

31. Tillie
32. Yurtseven
33. Duval
34. J.Evans
35. Milton
36. G.Allen
37. Vanderbilt
38. B.Brown
39. Ponds
40. McCoy
41. Carter
42. Alkins
43. Thomas
44. Holiday
45. Diallo
46. Kurucs
47. Konate
48. Metu
49. Wiley
50. Graham
51. Brunson
52. Trent Jr.
53. Vick
54. McLemore
55. Happ
56. Trier
57. Wagner
58. Maker
59. Mykhailiuk
60. Vick

Still some guys missing, but made some ammendments. Milton was missing on my last one, continuing to drop Diallo, boosted Shamet, added Okobo and Zhaire Smith, few other minor changes.

Thebullsgod1993 · Post #31 » by **Thebullsgod1993** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 5:37 am

GimmeDat wrote:1. Ayton
2. Doncic
3. JJJ
4. Porter
5. Bamba
6. Bagley
7. Young
8. Carter
9. Mik. Bridges
10. Mil. Bridges
11. Knox
12. J.Porter
13. Hunter
14. Walker Jr.
15. Gafford
16. Sexton
17. Williams
18. Z.Smith
19. Robinson
20. Brown
21. Musa
22. Frazier
23. Okobo
24. Melton
25. SGA
26. Simons
27. Hutchison
28. Bates-Diop
29. Bonga
30. Shamet

31. Tillie
32. Yurtseven
33. Duval
34. J.Evans
35. Milton
36. G.Allen
37. Vanderbilt
38. B.Brown
39. Ponds
40. McCoy
41. Carter
42. Alkins
43. Thomas
44. Holiday
45. Diallo
46. Kurucs
47. Konate
48. Metu
49. Wiley
50. Graham
51. Brunson
52. Trent Jr.
53. Vick
54. McLemore
55. Happ
56. Trier
57. Wagner
58. Maker
59. Mykhailiuk
60. Vick

Still some guys missing, but made some ammendments. Milton was missing on my last one, continuing to drop Diallo, boosted Shamet, added Okobo and Zhaire Smith, few other minor changes.

No Tyler cook? -iowa I'm a iowa fan he desperately wants to go pro this year only a sophomore. Just don't think he's good enough yet he'll realize it and come back next year.

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Post #32 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 5:56 am

Thebullsgod1993 wrote:

No Tyler cook? -iowa I'm a iowa fan he desperately wants to go pro this year only a sophomore. Just don't think he's good enough yet he'll realize it and come back next year.

Watch on YouTube

I'll be honest, haven't seen him play. I'll have a look in to him!

DirtyDez · Post #33 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 6:55 am

GimmeDat wrote:1. Ayton
2. Doncic
3. JJJ
4. Porter
5. Bamba
6. Bagley
7. Young
8. Carter
9. Mik. Bridges
10. Mil. Bridges
11. Knox
12. J.Porter
13. Hunter
14. Walker Jr.
15. Gafford
16. Sexton
17. Williams
18. Z.Smith
19. Robinson
20. Brown
21. Musa
22. Frazier
23. Okobo
24. Melton
25. SGA
26. Simons
27. Hutchison
28. Bates-Diop
29. Bonga
30. Shamet

31. Tillie
32. Yurtseven
33. Duval
34. J.Evans
35. Milton
36. G.Allen
37. Vanderbilt
38. B.Brown
39. Ponds
40. McCoy
41. Carter
42. Alkins
43. Thomas
44. Holiday
45. Diallo
46. Kurucs
47. Konate
48. Metu
49. Wiley
50. Graham
51. Brunson
52. Trent Jr.
53. Vick
54. McLemore
55. Happ
56. Trier
57. Wagner
58. Maker
59. Mykhailiuk
60. Vick

Still some guys missing, but made some ammendments. Milton was missing on my last one, continuing to drop Diallo, boosted Shamet, added Okobo and Zhaire Smith, few other minor changes.

Trier is having one helluva season from a scoring aspect (68TS%). I think he can sneak into the first rd and be a 6th man scorer right away.

Post #34 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 7:05 am

DirtyDez wrote:
Trier is having one helluva season from a scoring aspect (68TS%). I think he can sneak into the first rd and be a 6th man scorer right away.

That's fair, I probably do have him too low. Personally I think the highest I'd take him his early 2nd though. Depth of this class is better than I thought at the start of this season.

Post #35 » by **VCfor3** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 7:01 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Trier is having one helluva season from a scoring aspect (68TS%). I think he can sneak into the first rd and be a 6th man scorer right away.

That's fair, I probably do have him too low. Personally I think the highest I'd take him his early 2nd though. Depth of this class is better than I thought at the start of this season.

I could see Memphis potentially grabbing him as a bench scoring insurance policy in case Reke doesn't resign. I feel like they are looking for more of an immediate impact type player so he could be a good fit for them. Doesn't mean he is the best player available when they pick but the fit could help him move up.

I agree with your top 10 picks aside from maybe switching Bamba and Bagley but it will depend on what team is drafting.

Post #36 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Mar 8, 2018 11:05 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Trier is having one helluva season from a scoring aspect (68TS%). I think he can sneak into the first rd and be a 6th man scorer right away.

That's fair, I probably do have him too low. Personally I think the highest I'd take him his early 2nd though. Depth of this class is better than I thought at the start of this season.

I could see Memphis potentially grabbing him as a bench scoring insurance policy in case Reke doesn't resign. I feel like they are looking for more of an immediate impact type player so he could be a good fit for them. Doesn't mean he is the best player available when they pick but the fit could help him move up.

I agree with your top 10 picks aside from maybe switching Bamba and Bagley but it will depend on what team is drafting.

Yeah, Bamba/Bagley is a tight one, could go either way. The only reason I gave Bamba the benefit of the doubt is because he looked to be turning the corner a bit before he got hurt. But regardless, if you believe in Bagley's upside, you go with him. Depends on the team, imo.

Post #37 » by **GimmeDat** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:19 am

MOCK - Still feels like a bit of a pointless exercise at this point because the rankings are so fluid, but gives some idea of how the lottery may play out in my eyes, at least.

1. MEM - Luka Doncic - Grizz see how their existing core fairs with the addition of Doncic, and either trade their vets or give things another run based on the teams play. Doncic more than valid #1 selection and a great fit for the Grizzlies.

2. PHO - Deandre Ayton - Which works out great for the Suns - they get in my eyes, the greatest talent in the draft, at a position of need. Only concern is that Suns need defense, so JJJ could be a sleeper option here, but I get the feeling Phoenix don't care too much about that side of the ball.

3. ATL - Jaren Jackson Jr. - I think this also pans out well for the Hawks. JJJ is a stud, we all know, he compliments John Collins to a tee in the front-court imo, so both a positional and skill-set fit, beyond being BPA.

4. ORL - Mo Bamba - Could go a number of ways here.. many would see Young as the clear selection here, others couldn't pass up Bagley, etc. Young's an obvious fit if you're a fan but I'm scared off of him this high. Bamba has massive impact potential, fits next to Gordon great, though it does leave Isaac floating between both front-court spots as the 3rd big, which is probably a great role for him but maybe an underutization long term. Would not blame the Magic for reaching on Young here at all, it's the big question mark of this stage of the draft.

5. CLE - Marvin Bagley - I really don't know which way the Cavs would lean, at all. I think it's between Bagley and Carter, and I tossed over this one for a bit. Personally, I think I'd lean Carter for their purposes, but I feel like LBJ would want Bagley and I feel like the Cavs FO also draft Bagley with one eye towards a post-LBJ future.

6. SAC - Wendell Carter - Tossed this one up as well, I don't think there's a clear pick for the Kings in this area of the draft. The Kings have a few young bigs, but they also have BB and JJ at SF. They could go with Mikal or Carter here, but I figure Carter is a nice fit for what they've got going and I'm uncertain of the future of WCS and Skal there.

7. DAL - Miles Bridges - I've backed myself in a tough spot by this point. I don't see Dallas going with Young, I personally have Mikal over Miles by a bit but with Barnes there's I don't think it's enough to sway them otherwise. Bridges is fun, he can get ample minutes at the 4, and the team should slowly progress to a higher tempo game.

8. CHI - Mikal Bridges - Yes, I've conveniently left Mikal for us. I'm not happy about being here in the draft but if we are, Mikal's the guy I want. Fits like a glove, and I have him over both Carter and Miles on my big board.

9. NY - Trae Young - If I'm NY I kind of wish Mikal was on the board, but it's optimistic at 9. It's at the expense of Mudiay and Ntilikina, but Young is a dynamic talent, good value at this point, and his exciting game will be an exciting fit at the Garden. Shift Frank over to the 2 like they supposedly want and give Trae the keys. Sink or swim.

10. CHA - Kevin Knox - This was really a toss up between he and Sexton, tbh. Both guys I'm a little bit meh on and could see slipping further. Just feel like Knox gives them upside and shooting at the 4/3, which would serve them very well if he pans out. Wouldn't blame them for taking Sexton, they need a quality backup point, but he is a one position player and he'd be behind Kemba, I just feel like Knox can do more for them with similar value.

11. LAC - Colin Sexton - Was tempted to go with a wing here, but the Clippers don't have a long term PG, and Sexton is good value in this range.

12. PHI - Zhaire Smith - Philly have placed a massive precedence on shooting, that much has been clear with their recent picks and FA signings, but I like Smith has a versatile, defensive oriented wing who can play off of Philly's main pieces with ease, and hopefully develop his shot in time. I bank on him being able to swing over to the 3 a little bit.

13. DEN - Shai Gilgious-Alexander - The Nuggets are deep, so it's hard to find a need for them, perhaps they look at some of the quality bigs in this range and try to ship out Plumlee, but ultimately I thought SGA is a great fit for them. Gives them size, defense and some more conventional PG play at the 1 spot. I'm not completely sold on his jumper but he has decent %'s, so if that translates he's going to be a great fit.

14. SAS - Johntay Porter - the Spurs are old and simply lack talent, particularly in the front-court. There's a number of directions they could go if they ended up in the lottery like this, I was tempted to get them a more athletically slanted guy, but Porter just seems like a great Spurs pick. He's not an eye popping athlete, but I think Pop would appreciate his skill level for a big, and especially if he continues to grow at all, is really young with considerable ceiling in his own right.

15. PHO - Lonnie Walker Jr. - Phoenix have a pretty even spread of talent at this point, but Walker will fit in effortlessly at the backup 2, maybe spot minutes at 3 when they go small. He's a much needed defender, shoots the 3, and has the potential to bring some on ball dynamism to the 2nd unit.

16. PHO - Daniel Gafford - Again, Suns look to solidify their roster with some more defensive minded pieces. I don't think Len has a certain future there, and with Ayton picked at 2, it's a nice contrast if he's having expected issues on the defensive end. Having 2 rookie C's is a big question mark, but perhaps Chandler or Len remain on as insurance for the position, and I understand that Bender's been playing there a bit too.

17. PHI - Shake Milton - Philly need to consolidate at this point, they've already got good depth and a bunch of stashes, but if they keep the pick, I'm going to go with someone a bit different, a big departure from my mock (#35), and say they draft Shake. Good size, shoots the 3 at a high level, he just works for their roster imo. If I was Philly I'd shop this pick, though.

18. UTA - Melvin Frazier - I'm a Frazier believer. I don't know that I'd feel great about taking him quite this high, but I like him in Utah. The Jazz don't have depth at the 3, and Frazier will add to their high level defense, be able to play off of their multiple playmakers in the back-court, and hopefully knock down the 3 at the next level as well.

19. LAC - Robert Williams - Williams falls pretty far in this outcome, though I do think it's possible. He's limited and I question his motor/skill-set/attitude just a bit. The Clippers know how to maximize the value of a guy in this mold, learning behind Deandre would be great for his development, and frankly the Clippers just get a great prospect for this point in the 1st.

20. WAS - Mitchell Robinson - Thought Musa would be an interesting piece for the Wiz, he definitely fits a more immediate need, but looking at their roster, I don't see much long term direction from their C position, so I love Robinson as a piece that can give them a new dynamic at the 5, maybe increase the incentive to move Mahinmi/Gortat.

21. ATL - Drazan Musa - they took JJJ before, so there's one position that stands out without a sold young piece and that's SG. In this scenario, the stars align because Musa's fallen quite far. Great value for Atlanta here, he should get an opportunity pretty early on as well.

22. LAL - Elie Okobo - Almost went with Alkins here, would be an interesting fit, but I really like Okobo in this range. Don't see IT staying in LA, and Ennis/GP3 aren't really NBA level guys, so Okobo should be able to take the backup spot by the end of the season.

23. CHI - Anfernee Simons - Not a very enticing position at this point, but Simons provides some interest as a long term prospect. There's probably much safer picks that make sense here but Simons is a bit of a more fun choice. Fortunately the Pels schedule means this pick should improve value before the end of the season.

24. MIN - Chandler Hutchison - NBA ready, fits a role, good value in this range. Could also go with KBD.

25. IND - Rawle Alkins - Another reach relative to my big board, but I think Alkins is justifiable in this range and is a good fit for this Pacers squad.

26. POR - De'Anthony Melton - Really like Melton as a prospect, brings a lot of tools to the table, and funnily enough I'd liken him to what Baldwin should have been. Gives them the wrinkle of having a guy with size and defense in the back-court.

27. BOS - Jacob Evans - I see Smart going, I think Evans is a nice choice in the late 1st, gives them some more shot making.

28. BKN - Keita Bates-Diop - combo forward, makes a lot of sense, good value this late, nothing too sexy upside wise for Brooklyn to choose from at this point so I think he's a nice piece here.

29. GSW - Grayson Allen - There were so many different ways I could go with this pick, but I figured backup SG is still one of the bigger needs on this roster and Allen is NBA ready.

30. ATL - Landry Shamet - A great outcome for Atlanta here, they get a guy that could really go as high as the mid-1st at 30. Should immediately backup Schroder.

Post #38 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:55 am

GimmeDat wrote:MOCK - Still feels like a bit of a pointless exercise at this point because the rankings are so fluid, but gives some idea of how the lottery may play out in my eyes, at least.

1. MEM - Luka Doncic - Grizz see how their existing core fairs with the addition of Doncic, and either trade their vets or give things another run based on the teams play. Doncic more than valid #1 selection and a great fit for the Grizzlies.

2. PHO - Deandre Ayton - Which works out great for the Suns - they get in my eyes, the greatest talent in the draft, at a position of need. Only concern is that Suns need defense, so JJJ could be a sleeper option here, but I get the feeling Phoenix don't care too much about that side of the ball.

3. ATL - Jaren Jackson Jr. - I think this also pans out well for the Hawks. JJJ is a stud, we all know, he compliments John Collins to a tee in the front-court imo, so both a positional and skill-set fit, beyond being BPA.

4. ORL - Mo Bamba - Could go a number of ways here.. many would see Young as the clear selection here, others couldn't pass up Bagley, etc. Young's an obvious fit if you're a fan but I'm scared off of him this high. Bamba has massive impact potential, fits next to Gordon great, though it does leave Isaac floating between both front-court spots as the 3rd big, which is probably a great role for him but maybe an underutization long term. Would not blame the Magic for reaching on Young here at all, it's the big question mark of this stage of the draft.

5. CLE - Marvin Bagley - I really don't know which way the Cavs would lean, at all. I think it's between Bagley and Carter, and I tossed over this one for a bit. Personally, I think I'd lean Carter for their purposes, but I feel like LBJ would want Bagley and I feel like the Cavs FO also draft Bagley with one eye towards a post-LBJ future.

6. SAC - Wendell Carter - Tossed this one up as well, I don't think there's a clear pick for the Kings in this area of the draft. The Kings have a few young bigs, but they also have BB and JJ at SF. They could go with Mikal or Carter here, but I figure Carter is a nice fit for what they've got going and I'm uncertain of the future of WCS and Skal there.

7. DAL - Miles Bridges - I've backed myself in a tough spot by this point. I don't see Dallas going with Young, I personally have Mikal over Miles by a bit but with Barnes there's I don't think it's enough to sway them otherwise. Bridges is fun, he can get ample minutes at the 4, and the team should slowly progress to a higher tempo game.

8. CHI - Mikal Bridges - Yes, I've conveniently left Mikal for us. I'm not happy about being here in the draft but if we are, Mikal's the guy I want. Fits like a glove, and I have him over both Carter and Miles on my big board.

9. NY - Trae Young - If I'm NY I kind of wish Mikal was on the board, but it's optimistic at 9. It's at the expense of Mudiay and Ntilikina, but Young is a dynamic talent, good value at this point, and his exciting game will be an exciting fit at the Garden. Shift Frank over to the 2 like they supposedly want and give Trae the keys. Sink or swim.

10. CHA - Kevin Knox - This was really a toss up between he and Sexton, tbh. Both guys I'm a little bit meh on and could see slipping further. Just feel like Knox gives them upside and shooting at the 4/3, which would serve them very well if he pans out. Wouldn't blame them for taking Sexton, they need a quality backup point, but he is a one position player and he'd be behind Kemba, I just feel like Knox can do more for them with similar value.

11. LAC - Colin Sexton - Was tempted to go with a wing here, but the Clippers don't have a long term PG, and Sexton is good value in this range.

12. PHI - Zhaire Smith - Philly have placed a massive precedence on shooting, that much has been clear with their recent picks and FA signings, but I like Smith has a versatile, defensive oriented wing who can play off of Philly's main pieces with ease, and hopefully develop his shot in time. I bank on him being able to swing over to the 3 a little bit.

13. DEN - Shai Gilgious-Alexander - The Nuggets are deep, so it's hard to find a need for them, perhaps they look at some of the quality bigs in this range and try to ship out Plumlee, but ultimately I thought SGA is a great fit for them. Gives them size, defense and some more conventional PG play at the 1 spot. I'm not completely sold on his jumper but he has decent %'s, so if that translates he's going to be a great fit.

14. SAS - Johntay Porter - the Spurs are old and simply lack talent, particularly in the front-court. There's a number of directions they could go if they ended up in the lottery like this, I was tempted to get them a more athletically slanted guy, but Porter just seems like a great Spurs pick. He's not an eye popping athlete, but I think Pop would appreciate his skill level for a big, and especially if he continues to grow at all, is really young with considerable ceiling in his own right.

15. PHO - Lonnie Walker Jr. - Phoenix have a pretty even spread of talent at this point, but Walker will fit in effortlessly at the backup 2, maybe spot minutes at 3 when they go small. He's a much needed defender, shoots the 3, and has the potential to bring some on ball dynamism to the 2nd unit.

16. PHO - Daniel Gafford - Again, Suns look to solidify their roster with some more defensive minded pieces. I don't think Len has a certain future there, and with Ayton picked at 2, it's a nice contrast if he's having expected issues on the defensive end. Having 2 rookie C's is a big question mark, but perhaps Chandler or Len remain on as insurance for the position, and I understand that Bender's been playing there a bit too.

17. PHI - Shake Milton - Philly need to consolidate at this point, they've already got good depth and a bunch of stashes, but if they keep the pick, I'm going to go with someone a bit different, a big departure from my mock (#35), and say they draft Shake. Good size, shoots the 3 at a high level, he just works for their roster imo. If I was Philly I'd shop this pick, though.

18. UTA - Melvin Frazier - I'm a Frazier believer. I don't know that I'd feel great about taking him quite this high, but I like him in Utah. The Jazz don't have depth at the 3, and Frazier will add to their high level defense, be able to play off of their multiple playmakers in the back-court, and hopefully knock down the 3 at the next level as well.

19. LAC - Robert Williams - Williams falls pretty far in this outcome, though I do think it's possible. He's limited and I question his motor/skill-set/attitude just a bit. The Clippers know how to maximize the value of a guy in this mold, learning behind Deandre would be great for his development, and frankly the Clippers just get a great prospect for this point in the 1st.

20. WAS - Mitchell Robinson - Thought Musa would be an interesting piece for the Wiz, he definitely fits a more immediate need, but looking at their roster, I don't see much long term direction from their C position, so I love Robinson as a piece that can give them a new dynamic at the 5, maybe increase the incentive to move Mahinmi/Gortat.

21. ATL - Drazan Musa - they took JJJ before, so there's one position that stands out without a sold young piece and that's SG. In this scenario, the stars align because Musa's fallen quite far. Great value for Atlanta here, he should get an opportunity pretty early on as well.

22. LAL - Elie Okobo - Almost went with Alkins here, would be an interesting fit, but I really like Okobo in this range. Don't see IT staying in LA, and Ennis/GP3 aren't really NBA level guys, so Okobo should be able to take the backup spot by the end of the season.

23. CHI - Anfernee Simons - Not a very enticing position at this point, but Simons provides some interest as a long term prospect. There's probably much safer picks that make sense here but Simons is a bit of a more fun choice. Fortunately the Pels schedule means this pick should improve value before the end of the season.

24. MIN - Chandler Hutchison - NBA ready, fits a role, good value in this range. Could also go with KBD.

25. IND - Rawle Alkins - Another reach relative to my big board, but I think Alkins is justifiable in this range and is a good fit for this Pacers squad.

26. POR - De'Anthony Melton - Really like Melton as a prospect, brings a lot of tools to the table, and funnily enough I'd liken him to what Baldwin should have been. Gives them the wrinkle of having a guy with size and defense in the back-court.

27. BOS - Jacob Evans - I see Smart going, I think Evans is a nice choice in the late 1st, gives them some more shot making.

28. BKN - Keita Bates-Diop - combo forward, makes a lot of sense, good value this late, nothing too sexy upside wise for Brooklyn to choose from at this point so I think he's a nice piece here.

29. GSW - Grayson Allen - There were so many different ways I could go with this pick, but I figured backup SG is still one of the bigger needs on this roster and Allen is NBA ready.

30. ATL - Landry Shamet - A great outcome for Atlanta here, they get a guy that could really go as high as the mid-1st at 30. Should immediately backup Schroder.

I may just be blind and delirious right now, but I can't seem to find M Porter. I see J Porter at 14 (who I agree seems like a very Spurs-y pick) but just don't see his brother.

I also dig the Allen-Zaza pairing. Allen trips, Zaza kicks, no opposing players escape the game unharmed.

Post #39 » by **GimmeDat** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:53 am

VCfor3 wrote:
I may just be blind and delirious right now, but I can't seem to find M Porter. I see J Porter at 14 (who I agree seems like a very Spurs-y pick) but just don't see his brother.

I also dig the Allen-Zaza pairing. Allen trips, Zaza kicks, no opposing players escape the game unharmed.

Ugh, I started the mock the night before and got so tired I put it on draft til then next day, and I've clearly completely overlooked the fact that I hadn't assigned MPJ to a team. Oh well.

I would've had him #6 to Sacramento. Which probably means Carter to Dallas, Mikal still to Bulls, Young still to NY, Miles to Charlotte, and the snowball continues.

Thanks for the pickup. Let's pretend MPJ decided to return to school in this hypothetical

Justwar · Post #40 » by **Justwar** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:40 pm

For what it's worth unless it comes out Simons was paid, he's going to college