clyde 2021 draft stuff

clyde21 · Post #1 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:12 pm

T1
1 Evan Mobley
2 Cade Cunningham

T2
3 Jalen Green
4 Jalen Suggs

T3
5 Moses Moody
6 Jalen Johnson
7 Jaden Springer
8 Scottie Barnes
9 Jonathan Kuminga
10 Franz Wagner
11 Alperen Sengun
12 Usman Garuba
13 Brandon Boston Jr.
14 Keon Johnson

T4
15 Sharife Cooper
16 Jared Butler
17 Scottie Lewis
18 Josh Giddey
19 Josh Christopher
20 JT Thor
21 Chris Duarte
22 Joe Wieskamp
23 James Bouknight
24 Joshua Primo
25 Miles McBride
26 Trey Murphy
27 Isaiah Jackson
28 Corey Kispert
29 Davion Mitchell
30 Kai Jones
31 Ziaire Williams
32 Isaiah Todd

clyde21 · Post #2 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:12 pm

PGs:

1 Cade Cunningham
2 Jalen Suggs
3 Jaden Springer
4 Sharife Cooper
5 Jared Butler
6 Josh Giddey
7 Miles McBride
8 Davion Mitchell
9 Ayo Dosunmu
10 Daishen Nix

clyde21 · Post #3 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:13 pm

SGs:

1 Jalen Green
2 Moses Moody
3 Brandon Boston Jr.
4 Keon Johnson
5 Josh Christopher
6 James Bouknight
7 Joshua Primo
8 Quentin Grimes
9 Aaron Wiggins
10 Cameron Thomas

clyde21 · Post #4 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:13 pm

SFs:

1 Jonathan Kuminga
2 Franz Wagner
3 Scottie Lewis
4 Joe Wieskamp
5 Chris Duarte
6 Trey Murphy
7 Corey Kispert
8 Ziaire Williams
9 Kessler Edwards
10 Aaron Henry

clyde21 · Post #5 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:13 pm

PFs:

1 Jalen Johnson
2 Scottie Barnes
3 JT Thor
4 Roko Prkacin
5 Isaiah Todd
6 Trendon Watford
7 Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
8 Greg Brown
9 Matthew Hurt
10 RaiQuan Gray

clyde21 · Post #6 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:14 pm

Cs:

1 Evan Mobley
2 Alperen Sengun
3 Usman Garuba
4 Isaiah Jackson
5 Kai Jones
6 Day'Ron Sharpe
7 Yoan Makoundou
8 Balsa Koprivica
9 Jericho Sims
10 Filip Petrusev
11 Charles Bassey
12 Ibou Dianko Badji

clyde21 · Post #7 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jun 4, 2020 6:14 pm

MOCK

1 Detroit:
2 Houston:
3 Cleveland:
4 Toronto:
5 Orlando:
6 Oklahoma City:
7 Golden State (via MIN):
8 Orlando (via CHI):
9 Sacramento:
10 New Orleans:
11 Charlotte:
12 San Antonio:
13 Indiana:
14 Golden State:
15 Washington:
16 Oklahoma City (via BOS):
17 Memphis:
19 New York:
20 Atlanta:
21 New York (via DAL):
22 LA Lakers:
23 Houston (via POR):
24 Houston (via MIL):
25 LA Clippers:
26 Denver:
27 Brooklyn:
28 Philadelphia:
29 Phoenix:
30 Utah:

clyde21 · Post #8 » by **clyde21** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 4:33 pm

updated some positional rankings (returning players only at this point)

getrichordie · Post #9 » by **getrichordie** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:45 pm

clyde21 wrote:updated some positional rankings (returning players only at this point)

So Ayayi is 100% returning?

Where’s Keyontae Johnson and Marcus Zegarowski?

clyde21 · Post #10 » by **clyde21** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:50 pm

getrichordie wrote:
clyde21 wrote:updated some positional rankings (returning players only at this point)

So Ayayi is 100% returning?

Where’s Keyontae Johnson and Marcus Zegarowski?

not 100% as far as I've heard but people are talking like he is so I'll include him for now until it's confirmed either way

clyde21 · Post #11 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:22 pm

prelim top10 is updated

clyde21 · Post #12 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 6:43 am

quick update to prelim rankings + positionals, no tiers, still expecting a lot of movement obviously but this is a decent early look

The-Power · Post #13 » by **The-Power** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 3:37 pm

clyde21 wrote:quick update to prelim rankings + positionals, no tiers, still expecting a lot of movement obviously but this is a decent early look

Any thoughts on Garuba's pretty problematic season, based on the numbers? Not sure about him as a prospect. And I haven't followed Orlando Robinson – what makes him that good in your eyes?

clyde21 · Post #14 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:20 pm

The-Power wrote:
clyde21 wrote:quick update to prelim rankings + positionals, no tiers, still expecting a lot of movement obviously but this is a decent early look

Any thoughts on Garuba's pretty problematic season, based on the numbers? Not sure about him as a prospect. And I haven't followed Orlando Robinson – what makes him that good in your eyes?

most based on what I've seen from Garuba previously, haven't had a chance to dive into his most recent stuff to compare -- what has been the difference for you?

re: Robinson, love his feet, can really score on the inside, real lengthy with some range to his game, multi-level offensive guy, just wish he was better defensively. that's also a projection at this point, we'll see where ends up year end but I like what I see so far.

The-Power · Post #15 » by **The-Power** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 6:58 pm

clyde21 wrote:most based on what I've seen from Garuba previously, haven't had a chance to dive into his most recent stuff to compare -- what has been the difference for you?

I was never really that enamored with him as a prospect but I've also never followed him closely. I found it impressive that he could carve out a role for himself at such a young age for one of the best clubs in Europe against great competition, so obviously there's impact potential with him. But looking at the numbers, he doesn't get to the free throw line and when he gets there he can't really convert his free throws, he's showing no progress as a shooter, struggles with efficiency this year even in a very limited role, can pass a bit but nothing special – I just don't know what he can become as an offensive player. And is his defense really good enough to be a top 10 prospect? I'm skeptical, not least because he doesn't look super nimble on his feet and doesn't have outstanding size even for a 4, and that is if he passes the skills threshold to play that position in the NBA.

I'm happy to be wrong, I certainly need to look into him more closely. But superficially and from the limited footage I've seen, he doesn't impress me a lot. Fine prospect, certainly someone you'd want to draft at some point in the first round but that's all I see at this point.

clyde21 wrote:re: Robinson, love his feet, can really score on the inside, real lengthy with some range to his game, multi-level offensive guy, just wish he was better defensively. that's also a projection at this point, we'll see where ends up year end but I like what I see so far.

Thanks, I'll have a closer look at him throughout the year!

clyde21 · Post #16 » by **clyde21** » Wed Dec 2, 2020 8:58 pm

i'll keep that in mind, generally I liked what I saw from him a physical profile standpoint and the role he projects into in the NBA, sounds like the skill hasn't quite developed the last year or so, I'm gonna have to take a deeper look into his more recent stuff for sure, but like I said a lot of this is pretty fluid.

clyde21 · Post #17 » by **clyde21** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:48 am

top 12 players or so right now, separated into tiers, preliminary positional stuff updated

clyde21 · Post #18 » by **clyde21** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:55 pm

lotto or so update, positionals updated

trending up for me: Joey Hauser, Jalen Wilson

trending down for me: Trayce Jackson-Davis, Terrence Clarke

clyde21 · Post #19 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 4, 2021 9:03 pm

1/4 update

Watford moved into T3 now, relatively high on him at this point, top20 guy, Jones also making a debut in the top20.

Bouknight moved into T2

clyde21 · Post #20 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:30 pm

updated rankings 1/11

moved Suggs to T2, even tho talent level belong in T1, some concerns for me in terms how his body is going to hold up long term. Moody moved to T2 as well.